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Ron Paul Returns to The Tonight Show w/ Jay Leno; 3/20/12

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This is old news, but if Jay

This is old news, but if Jay Leno had Ron Paul on about his five in a row victories in the last weeks, it would be hard to ignore..

And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.

more OLD news

Is today OLD news day? What is with all of the ancient clips? meh

thats what i was thinking

thats what i was thinking

It's because I updated the thread

with alternative links because the video in the top post was taken down. I had to find that interview today to cite some of Paul's remarks so I figured I might as well add the links to save someone else some time.

Dr. Paul did a great job. His

Dr. Paul did a great job. His superPAC answer was very good, in particular. Glad he made this point. The media are also corporations, so why is it that they are allowed to have unlimited influence on a campaign, and yet other corporations and individuals would be regulated and limited? People don't often realize that connection, because they are so used to thinking of the press as being public and free. They are big corporate interests. This is another example of big special interests using regulations to snuff out competition. The media corps want unlimited influence. And he is right, special interests spend big money to control the outcome of elections because there is so much at stake. Getting access to government means getting access to the printing press and military. If we ban corporate money, they will simply do it under the table, until the incentive is finally removed. Also I loved his tie. He looked great. :)

This is exactly right!

The people in the gov't can be bought and sold. This is the problem. We need to elect individuals who will not be bought and sold, like Ron Paul. He says the lobbyists rarely bother him because they know he'll say no.

But I'm still grappling with this one: should PAC's be able to contribute as much as they want? There is the danger of all these bankster dudes putting their heads together, creating a PAC, and donating to some campaign. Is that what Goldman Sachs is doing for Romney?

My brother once complained that he couldn't donate more to Ron Paul than the allowed amount. That doesn't seem fair either.

Diane

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That was awesome: "I think the other three should quit" LOL

The Good Doc is always so sharp!!

Debbie

It was definitely a sharp, good response!

I really liked his response too, he can be so sharp sometimes, and funny too! And his demeanor is always so humble.

Diane

Look at those guns, Paul has got them

I just love this man, always have since the first time I saw his newsletters.

Santorum's codename should be

Lancer, and Newt's should be Pinky

What happen at the Saint Paul

What happen at the Saint Paul Breakfast? How much $$$ did they raise.

There's nothing slick or polished about Ron Paul

...and it's about time America realizes that we should be electing people who are honest, smart, know their economics and believe in freedom. How has that "great orator" stuff been working out for us?

If you still have doubts about what a brilliant politician this man is, remember that when he makes the nomination, he will have made zero gaffes, has zero skeletons and zero flip-flops in his closet to be brought out. This caucus, delegate, and brokered convention strategy is the most ingeniously executed campaign I have ever seen.

I welcome the criticism, this man's will is made of steel. Awesome post.

I'm glad he talked about the Citizens United case.

That's another thing that differentiates Dr. Paul from OWS. Those idiots want the government to regulate speech.

WAS GOOD

Paul was good, just not much for him to talk about in 13 minutes, Also jay could have hit note on more important issues. REPEAT no one cares about newty or santorium or mittens. So why was he asking Dr. paul about them.

Point being , paul did well , I would like to see how fake and phony , romney and santorum would be on the leno stage

"He's this eccentric Ghandi-Like figure that you cant touch with the normal bribes that people respond to."
the man Doug Wead on DR. RON PAUL

I disagree with Ron Paul

Corporations are not humans and they should not have the same rights as American Citizens. When corporations are allowed to contribute to campaigns in unlimited amounts of money they buy the elections. Just look at the money Romney is getting from wall street. I thought Ron Paul took no corporate money.

Am i Missing something???

Mitt Romney Says 'Corporations Are People' At Iowa State Fair

Washington Post - Mitt Romney Says 'Corporations Are People' At Iowa State Fair

Romney explained that one way to fulfill promises on entitlement programs is to “raise taxes on people,” but before he could articulate his position on not raising taxes, someone interrupted.

“Corporations!” a protester shouted, apparently urging Romney to raise taxes on corporations that have benefited from loopholes in the tax code. “Corporations!”

“Corporations are people, my friend,” Romney said.

Some people in the front of the audience shouted, “No, they’re not!”

“Of course they are,” Romney said. “Everything corporations earn ultimately goes to people. Where do you think it goes?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/mitt-romney-says-corp...

Yes, You are.

"Corporations are not humans and they should not have the same rights as American Citizens"

Dr. Paul has said time and time again that technically, NOTHING but an individual has "RIGHTS," that includes the State, or any other govt for that matter. A govt is a 'legal' entity set up by a group of individuals, to delegate ONLY those 'powers' that are explicitly enumerated.

He's also stated time and time again that "Corporations" ARE NOT PERSONS.

Your arguments conflates the two.

1. RP does NOT believe in "corporate personhood"
2. Corporations do NOT have "rights"
3. ONLY Individuals have Rights

4. However, that does not mean a group of individuals cannot get together, form a group to petition the govt for "redress of grievances"

That act is a natural right precisely protected under the 1st Amendment, as codified.

Just what legal entity do you think ACLU falls under? It's a 'corporation.' As is C4L, as is the RP2012 campaign itself.
And guess what, no libertarians, liberal Constitutional lawyers Glenn Greenwald and Jonathan Turley both understand and accept the Doc's argument on this issue as well.

Citizens United has NOTHING to do with the current batch of billionaires supporting various PACs to influence politics; it did not lead to formation of SuperPACs. Well, to be more specific, EVERYTHING that the current batch of SuperPACs are doing now, happened in EVERY political race, BEFORE the Citizens United decision.

This whole BS meme is a completely fraudulent Red Herring. If ANYONE thinks billionaires or any other moneyed-men throughout history have NOT influenced politics and govt is like saying Sahara is filled of glaciers.

It's asinine.

The correct solution, as also pointed out numerous times by Dr. Paul, is LIMITING govt's purview, so they have no delegated authority to do so many things; de facto eliminating any incentive for lobbyists to petition to control it.

Dr. Paul's insistence that Govt is an Auction Company, is PRECISELY right.

So why not simply LIMIT what's in their inventory to auction off, to begin with?

THAT is the proper solution.

Then again, at the end of the day, as also Dr. Paul enumerated time and time again, unless the People change what their understanding and acceptance of what the role of Govt should be, NONE of this will matter.

Because as long as we have govt, despite how propagandized and brainwashed the sheeple populace maybe, at the end of the Day, the type of govt a nation has truly does reflect its citizenry. If the population weren't such a pliable bunch of lunatic moronic sheeple, Dr. Paul would've been elected POTUS in 1988, let alone 2008.

Otherwise, the Constitution IS 'just a piece of paper' as it has no automatic authority to enforce itself. As 'dreamy' as it may seem, the solution truly is to change the hearts and minds of people to shift their understanding of what the role of govt should be, then only elect those who reflect those values to be in govt. Though to me that still isn't the ultimate goal. I'd say get rid of gvt altogether, but we're never gonna get to a remotely voluntaryst society unless those within our geographic boundaries under stand what their own natural rights are, not to mention unless we have other nations and cultures of the world who equally believe in voluntaryism. But, that's not likely to happen for a long ass time, obviously. That said, despite it all, the Constitution is a written document that everyone can refer to, to even debate over. So unless we get back to the absolute limits of a Constitutional govt, the progress of human liberty and freedoms can never move another inch.

The solution has ALWAYS been us. Seems implausible Zen, but then again, that is Zen, ain't it?

Thus the frustration on all our part, as there would be no such tyranny, if people completely ignored and not complied with any and all illegalities and govt lunacy like NDAA, or even at a local level a thuggish cop, or a sheriff who has no idea what he took an oath to.

If people en masse simply stopped complying with TSA, just WTF do you think it has the power to do?

There can be no slave, without the slave's ultimate acceptance of the master; in his/her mind, the slave has to rationalize the fact that being a slave to a master and being fed and housed and labored to death, is still better than being on their own, or resisting the perceived power of the master to be tyrannical over the slave, for them to continue living on their knees.

And make no mistake, we are ALL in the FED.Reserve-debt slavery system.

POTUS Paul IS the BEGINNING of the End of our Debt-slavery. But, as I've stated, it merely is the beginning. It's gonna be a long road. So buckle up (or not.o) and enjoy the ride.

It's gonna be a wild year!

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

Actually he does believe in corporate personhood.

This mistake that people make is thinking that if someone says they agree with corporate personhood, that means they think that corporations are individual human beings. But that's not what corporate personhood means. It just means that since corporations are made of of individual human beings, those individuals don't lose their liberties when they incorporate and they are allowed to make contracts as one party. So of course he believes in corporate personhood. He just doesn't think they are individual human beings. That's two different concepts.

Corporations should be in a Free Market Economy

Paul takes no corporate money. However he is a strong advocate of free markets. This means little or no government interference regarding corporations in a free market economy. Meaning no bailouts when they fail, and no special considerations through regulation or government lobbying.

Today through bailouts corporations that should fail continue to drain our economy, and through regulation some corporations are given an unfair advantage to compete, or change the way they interact in the markets. Coca-Cola example below...

"Government imposed regulations and import tariffs on sugar is why Coca Cola sold in the US has high fructose corn syrup, and Coca-Cola sold in France is less expensive and tastes better since it uses real sugar." This example in from his book "The Revolution".

He feels customers - individuals - will regulate corporations through the markets in a more equitable and efficient manner.

Ron advocates that corporations, like individuals, have private property and property rights.

"This isn't what the govern meant"

"Win the crowd and you will win your freedom"

look deeper

the reason corporations contribute so much is because the government has turned into, basically, an auction block. Until you eliminate the ability of the gov to hand out special privileges, you will always have people bidding on those privileges.

Make all the rules you want, but that only treats the symptoms, to fix the problem you need to fix its cause.

So you don't think the Campaign for Liberty

should be allowed to fund and air ads within 30 days of election? That's what Citizens United legalized. CFL is a non-profit corporation, as is Citizens United.

The "personhood" stuff is a red-herring created by leftists. The ruling wasn't based on corporate personhood. The First Amendment says "Congress shall make no law" regulating speech. It doesn't say the speech has to come from a legal person or even a human being.

Money not the issue, those willing to be bought sold themselves

http://www.google.com/trends/?q=Ron+Paul,+Mitt+Romney,+Newt+...

Ron Paul and We the Grassroots, have made the media and the political money machine largely relevant.

If we would quit moping around looking for excuses and get to work, we may live to hear the Liberty Bell ring. We are winning but there are years to go before we're done.

First rule of track: During the race, there is no need to look back if you're exerting maximum effort.

Free includes debt-free!

i am sure

i am sure you are mistaken

paul does not agree with the "corporations are people my friend" that is romney who thinks that.

paul said if corporations or people have money they should be allowed to spend it as they please.

"He's this eccentric Ghandi-Like figure that you cant touch with the normal bribes that people respond to."
the man Doug Wead on DR. RON PAUL

If Dr. Paul really wanted...

... to make good use of this appearance he should have called out Obama and Panetta for their treasonous actions and statements, looking to foreign entities for permission to start wars and relegating Congress to the dustbin. He should be calling for their impeachment -- missed opportunity to be a leader on this.

Maybe the Leno venue...

...wouldn't be the best; but I am disappointed that Dr. Paul hasn't done this in any venue.

And down votes with no explanation disgust me.

Dr. Paul's Next Leno Appearance

Will have Jackie Chan and Golden State as musical guest.

"I, __________, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oath_of_enlistment

There is no duration defined in the Oath

RP was Great! And Kudos to Jay Leno for having him on

and treating him nicely! Love the crowd reactions too! Was cheering along with them.

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CSM: Is Ron Paul a martial arts master?

[This is actually a positive story from the Monitor.]

Is Ron Paul a martial arts master? Jay Leno clip shows his moves. (+video)
No, Ron Paul isn't a martial arts master. The Jay Leno clip is a spoof on the fact that Paul won't accept Secret Service protection. But if he did, his code name would be 'Bulldog.'
By Peter Grier, Staff writer / March 21, 2012

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Elections/Vox-News/2012/0321/Is...

Nah

*edit, this was intended to be a reply who said Ron Paul needs to fire his "prep team" in favor of more polished delivery

Ron Paul didn't get this far because he spoke like Mitt Romney or Obama. He did because what he says is uniquely genuine and authentic. He will never change that. He will never be an orator like Obama. And thank God for that!