99 votes

Fulton County GOP admits to procedural irregularity

Article Below :

http://www.examiner.com/buzz-in-atlanta/fulton-county-gop-co...

Video Below :

http://youtu.be/ywGGHdsL-Mc

I was in attendance. My whole district was made up of Ron Paul supporters. We were unable to get ANYONE through to the state or district convention. Instead, the "nominating committee" sent through two people who we had never met nor were in attendance. But the main point here is, the only reason this happened was because they broke their own procedural rules, and it was caught on tape.



Trending on the Web

Comment viewing options

Select your preferred way to display the comments and click "Save settings" to activate your changes.

just wow

so they make new rules and close the nominations according to that, though the body did not approve the "new rules" ?

----------------------------
Dr.Ron Paul's 2002 Predictions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

Adams did NOT "betray us"

While I appreciate the sentiment, I want to make it clear that Nathan Adams is an ardent Paul supporter, and in no way should we look at him as responsible in some way for what happened. I don't know what he does for a living, but I somehow doubt it's "career politician" or "parliamentary expert."

He has been irreplaceable here in Fulton County in terms of what he does to support Paul's movement. The updated HD version of the video is mine (sourapplekid), and I just wanted to show my support for Nathan because any discussion about him being unprepared or responsible in any way is ridiculous. I hope he'll eventually run for our local GOP Chairman spot or something similar, because the guy's got my vote.

Adams got my vote too!

He has my vote too.

Really? Voting for Obama

will solve anything? As if the DNC is not owned by the same people as the GOP. As if the canidate of GOP choice won't be approved by the ruling order (provided the revolution has not enough steam this iteration). I don't know the answer, but I'm certain an Obama or (likely) GOP candidate will serve just the same.

If the eventual worse case happens, boycott or write-in? In the interim stay positive and pick the low hanging fruit.

this just shows

WHY I will vote for Obama in November if GOP does NOT allow Ron Paul as the Nominee.... - these people need to be "put down" (I don't mean literally... just figuratively) like dogs. WE NEED to destroy the GOP and make sure MITTENS doesn't get in... a lot of people say they will write in Ron Paul .. but I want to deny the GOP the win. Keep kicking them until they go away. Keep putting in REAL RON PAUL candidates Locally and taking over until the RINO's and Neo's are gone. We will get NO where if we do not take down this 2 party system.

"Many of us agree that you and I have no right to use coercion against people who don't owe us anything. The same prohibition applies to groups of people who constitute the government. The reason is simple: unjust acts do not become just when legalized. "

There is never any reason to

There is never any reason to vote for the lesser of the two evils.... write in Ron Pauls name. This mentality is what the establishment party relies on to win and we have to end this now.

Secondly, Ron Paul may very well sneak out of the convention as the nominee. Theres a lot of tricks up our sleeves.

They didn't have enough people countywide in Fulton

Nathan says they outnumbered the GOP in Congressional District 6. Fulton County also has part of the 5th, 11th & 13th Districts. Obviously the GOP outnumbered them at the county level and they were unable to force the GOP to break out the convention into districts to caucus and nominate the delegates. This is how they usually select delegates. It is unfortunate and shows that when we have the majority, we should not play nice either.

In Dekalb County we were the majority and we naively played nice. Our County Coordinator was asked by the Chairman to be a member of the nominating committee. The GOP played a game of chaos at our convention by throwing us a redistricting curve ball. Many of us were according to the State still in the 4th District. The establishment GOP members were given the heads up on this. A lot of people in the 4th were pushed into the 6th and things were chaotic from then on. We lost a lot of delegate slots to the 6th District due to our being nice. We will send a lot of delegates to the 4th and 5th District Conventions and a few to the 6th but we have to deal with other counties in those conventions. We will also send a bunch of delegates to the State Convention, but I am sure we will be outnumbered there.

The message I am trying to send is get the Ron Paul supporters out to the conventions, assess your strength and if you have the majority, don't play nice because they aren't nice.

And finally to beat the Establishment GOP we have to become the GOP. I know that really sucks for many of us, but that is the reality.

I know this wont sound as good

in writing as it does in my head - but why couldn't this soldier in Afghanistan just have come home and taken a few shots at some of these GOP frauds. Then they would think twice before they cheat(yes - that silly country song is playing in my head while typing this).
Not encouraging violence - just a thought that crossed my mind.

Simple. Because that would

Why? Simple. Because that would start a cycle of violence and ruin our country.

And yes, what you are doing is encouraging violence. Just because you say you are not, doesn't make it so.

↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓
Show your support for Ron Paul and inspire others at new grassroots site:
http://www.ronpaulpatriotnation.com
( Consider uploading a picture or video of your sign or event, etc .)

GOP loves violence

The GOP loves violence in other places, Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, Etc.
I'm surprised someone hasn't taken out the "evil bastards" who pretend to be "leaders" in the GOP.
There needs to be a "regime change", and it's not overseas.

In case you don't know...

"Nominating commitees" are usually a fraud. The leader sits in and hands picks who they want and where. The people put on a nominating committe are followers of the groups leader. The groups only choice is to "vote" for the leaders picks. Then they can pretend it was an "election". This method is used by corrupt political organizations, governments and churches on a regular basis. They get to force who they want in a position while pretending to be "good" or "Godly". So when your groups leader says "nominating committee" to you it's like someone saying "trust me" in San Francisco or as they say in America: "&$#! you".

Why didn't you form a quorum and vote out the chair?

That's what RevoLution is all about--you came this far just to come home with a video?

Seriously, vote out the chair at the NEXT meeting!

Vote to replace the chair as the FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS.

Why wait to get screwed when you and your children's lives are on the chopping block?

You want to be a collapsed 3rd world in 20 years with no hope of crawling out?

================================
Fight the Ron Paul blackout on the Daily Paul (now 'P AU L'), put his removed poster back as your avatar:
http://www.mediafire.com/?9ir62bp8nshv83m

We tried in Gwinnett - not enough RPers

We tried to vote out the chair of the county convention. We didn't have a majority, so we lost. However (and ain't hindsight grand?), while we did call for "division" (i.e. everybody stand up to be counted) I don't think anybody double checked the count. I don't think we had a majority, but still, we absolutely cannot trust these people.

So that's what they're

So that's what they're calling fraud these days!

It was a sham from the get-go

First they gave out NEW rules that morning, while making a big deal touting the procedure was to be fair for all. Then they handed out forms to fill in for delegation nominations. It was already known that the all the delegate & alternate slots were filled with the GOP faithfuls. When the committee came out, they had replaced very few names... adding for example, Ralph Reed (yes, the Ralph Reed... the establishment), and replacing a husband with his wife, etc. In our district, not even 1 of the 35 applications was substituted in the 24 slots.

They then had us vote by Congressional districts. This shenanigan dictated that the paper nominations go through the House District chairs; those folks then spread misinformation and lies about who was "allowed" to challenge whom. They also used the new congressional district maps (which do not yet appear on our voter registration records) to sow confusion and disqualify challenges.

Overall, it was roughly 1/3 to 2/3rds, but in one of the 2 districts, we were only 5 votes short!

They closed nominations via the "paper submission rule" before the body of the convention had adopted that rule, which the convention chairman admitted when Nathan questioned him.

In the end, there were not enough opposition present to overturn anything. The majority always eventually wins under Robert's Rules of Order.

Regardless, what they did was unethical. The die was cast before anyone arrived. Forked tongue.. "fairness" out of the mouth & slight of hand behind our backs. WE are in CHARGE. Give us your $40 and go away.

Just sent this email to GAGOP

http://www.gagop.org/local/county/county-details/?county_id=60

I just read a report from examiner.com about the irregularities that occurred in Fulton County during the delegate proceedings.

This adds to the many reports of Ron Paul supporters being denied access to the electoral process. Voter fraud, election fraud, delegate selection fraud - is there no end to the GOP's deceit and manipulations?

I have been a Republican for 35 years and must say I have never been so disgusted or embarrassed to be a registered Republican. Actually, I do not believe the Republican Party exists anymore; it has become the Democratic Party and that is an affiliation I refuse to be a part of.

You forget we are now reading the words of our Founders and it seems to many of us that George Washington was directly speaking about the GOP when he said this about political parties, “They serve to organize faction, to give it an artificial and extraordinary force; to put, in the place of the delegated will of the nation the will of a party, often a small but artful and enterprising minority of the community…”

You are guilty of putting your will above the will of the people, especially by pushing Gov Romney on a people who do not want him as evidenced by his inability to garner more than even 40% of the vote in most States’ contests.

My next thoughts are not a warning but a promise. Those of us whose allegiance to the Constitution overrides party politics will slowly but surely take back our party from your corrupt grip. You have no morals, no values, no principles. Your actions closely resemble those of union thugs rather than respectable representatives of our great Republic.

Mitt Romney will never get my vote. I am one of legion and we will no longer hold our noses as we pull the lever.

We have adopted the prudent advice offered by John Quincy Adams:
“Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, and you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost.”

I look forward to the day when the Republican Party actually represents Republicanism again.

If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy.
James Madison

Let us know if you get a reply

Unlikely yes. However I think a 35 year GOP veteran deserves at least a reply.

Sounds like Gwinnett County

Yup. Just like in neighboring Gwinnett County. At the end of the convention, they made a motion to accept the Nominating Committee's report, it was seconded, there was no debate or discussion, a vote was called and taken, the chairman pronounced it passed. The convention was never told who was on the slate of delegates in the report. Then a motion was made to accept the slate, again without knowing the names, seconded, and voted on without discussion and proclaimed passed. Then a motion was made to close the convention, seconded, voted, proclaimed passed. And that was it. All three motions probably took less than a minute. Roberts Rules of Order did not apply.

The GA state RP activists warned us this is how it would be. We knew this is what they were going to do. And there was not a thing we could do to stop them.

If you have not yet held your convention BEWARE!!! This is a universal tactic. Record EVERYTHING. Maybe let the chairman know you are recording.

Only a lawsuit or two will stop this nonsense. And it would drag out in court past the election and so it would not have any effect. But we should put the GOP on notice that if they blatantly violate parliamentary procedure, they will end up in court!

grrrrrrrrrrr

Henry County GA altered the rule to prohibit video taping

I did not realize Gwinnett County suffered such a setback until I read this post. We were all expecting Gwinnett to have one of the stronest showings. In my county, every motion was allowed a vote. All delegate/alt names were verbally announceed but not provided in writing although we respectfully requested it. The establishment GOP filled the slat with many absentees, i.e. their friends and left 60% of Ron Paul participants without a delegate or alternate seat.
We did not have a majority. It was about 4:1 the establishment number vs Ron Paul number. I attempted the video taping but was advised it is against the rule - a made up rule that is not supported in the GOP official rules.

My main advice for those states who have not started the delegate process:
1)Recruit as many committed supporters as possible. Call and meet with every donor (in my county donor list is 7 times more than the volunteer list and 3 times more than the active local supporter/bloggers). Start early! It could be so easy to win with a majority if you started out with an overwhelming base.
2) Don't wait for your leader for instructions. Take complete initiative to seek out knowledge/know-how and DO IT, even if just by yourself!
3)Attend GOP meetings, get to know the establishment folks beforehand. Not everyone is our enemy. Once you befriend with them on a personal level, they will not shut you out.

Same all, old tricks.

Folks, this videos should be taken on the whole process to expose those scumbags. This is the evidence where they breaking the rules.

Can the legal Ron Paul team comment on that to take a correct action, I would suggest to get with GA RP heads for a consultation the legal team should start the legal process against all the chairs that do this type of things.

GOP is a rotten party, they do not want enemies behind their lines.

Also folks keep the phones ready, record the meetings so we can expose GOP lies and show it to people the way it is.

Pease

Remember

Remember, this is a revolution. They won't let us just walk in the door and start taking things off the walls. They will attempt to discredit us, ignore us, defame us, laugh at us, change the rules on us, and marginalize us in hopes that they don't have to fight us. We arm ourselves with knowledge, we arm ourselves with perseverance, and we arm ourselves with the desire to see a future better than the past and present. They fear us.

I updated with a new video

I updated with a new video link

Advice?

A few weeks ago I joined my Wisconsin County Republican Party and just attended the county convention and was approved by the members as a delegate. The approval is pending approval by the committee. I am concerned that two of the people I was talking to, as well as others, were trying to expose any of the Ron Paul supporters. If the committee does not approve me as a delegate, what coarse of action should I take? Thanks in advance!

If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy. - James Madison

bump

bump

they see the increase in attendance as positive sign,

but don't want to listen to what the new Attendees have to say, what an ass.

Sonsabitches will stop at nothing..

WE MUST go after them like a Junk Yard Dog on CRACK!

Lawyer Up and knock them down!!

Cannabis Hemp Oil CURES DISEASE

Election Fraud

File a criminal complaint. The police will have to investigate. Then call the local media, someone honest if you can find one, putting light on the subject will scare these cowards. Hopefully it will stop the next group of GOP criminals.

dave anderson

I sent this to Ben Swann,

Cuz he's the man for this job

One day, I'm gonna' change my name to Dale Lee Paul

Unenforced rules are like

a dog with no teeth.

That dog dont hunt.

sovereign