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GOP Beauty Contests: Alabama, Hawaii, Mississippi, American Samoa - Open Thread

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Proportional base on...

Excuse my ignorance. I know nothing about Hawaii's caucus process, but are delegates allotted as a proportion of the straw vote (i.e. this beauty contest)?

I am sovereign unto myself

Delegates are awarded

Delegates are awarded proportional to the percentages coming in from today's election.

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Definitley the delegates! But it would be really nice to win Hawaii, we need a win.

Do The Ron Paul (song) (there is some suggestive content)

If Ron Paul surges in

If Ron Paul surges in Honolulu and Maui he can close in on Romney.

"The true Patriot will repeal the Patriot Act..." - Ron Paul.

Back up to almost 26 percent!

Fighting back into this. 5 votes behind santorum

If this is proportional, then this is important!

please, please, please don't let them rig this!

I am sovereign unto myself


My buddy lives in Alabama and he let me know about the voting out there. heres what he said:

"You know I don't think every republican is showing up for these primaries in the south. In Alabama most people support Ron Paul over anyone else due to his conservatism. These primaries are a joke man...."

Paul 3rd so far in HI with 5 votes behind RS and 61 behind MR

9% reporting

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Paul only 61 votes from first

Mitt 291, Frothy 235, RP 230, Grynch 149

12 out of 47 reported

Wow i smell voter fraud again..

at 1 place there where 1,000 caucus goers yet 30% in and only around 600 votes?...

naybe they were provisional and they all got send to that guy

Chang again -see below


Honolulu precincts were crowded

That's where the people are - so we'll have to see. Current results:

Romney, Mitt GOP 291 32%
Santorum, Rick GOP 235 26%
Paul, Ron GOP 230 25%
Gingrich, Newt GOP 149 16%

They have Ron Paul a distant fourth in Honolulu

Sounds like our voters were young and not counted tonight. There up to their old tricks again.

30% of precincts not votes

30% of precincts not votes

Hawaii's on track for fewer votes than Maine

And probably fewer than Wyoming on a per capita basis. We have to win contests like this. Organization and turnout is supposed to be our strong suit.

Where are Dems and Independents?

If we think we can convince the majority of Americans to vote Ron Paul in a General Election... It should be no problem winning by a undeniable landslide in the primaries. We need the General Election votes right now. 2 Presidential Elections, 40+ debates, Tens of thousands of youtube videos, The "ideological base" has heard the message. Now, we need the broad support we know is out there for grabs. Democrats and Independents need to be brought into the fold by being reassured on social support programs. Now or there won't be a later.

yes, but counting is not the GOPs strong suit

(see above)

I am sovereign unto myself

Aaaaaaand that's that...

Romney leading in 3 counties with the classic
Paul stalling/Romney surge GOP maneuver.

This is how it will finish folks, hope we get the delegates...

"If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom — go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, an


Screw the beauty contest. RP supporters with smartphones in Hawaii -- PLEASE KEEP US UPDATED on delegate selection and proceedings. You're performing a civic duty!

I am sovereign unto myself

The delegates will be awarded based on what percent votes

the candidate gets. So Paul, Mormney, and the Ayatollah Santorum will break even. P.s. this happens some other day.

NO MORE LIES. Ron Paul 2012.

proportional here. not a true

proportional here. not a true caucus by a Paulite definition. candidates choose their own delegates in this state


The accidental real trending of votes is always shown early before the ballot flipping begins

Hoping For The Best

Paul down by 12% now with 20% reporting. Romney barely edging out Paul in Hawaii county. This better be legit tonight.

Freedom is popular-RON PAUL 2012 til I die!


You have to believe. All the votes by people who haven't voted in the past 5 years in Hawaii are being sent to Honolulu to that David Chang to count in secret! This is not slander, a lie, conjecture, or misrepresentation! This is the truth. I went to the party meeting before the caucus!

They said those votes would be counted "within the next four days".... Bullshit!

NO MORE LIES. Ron Paul 2012.

Did they not even tell you WHY they were doing this?

Are they going to check and see if the "new voters" are really resurrected dead people?



I was even a new voter since I had never voted in Hawaii. Therefore, I had my vote placed in an envelope and had it put with other envelopes called "provisional ballots". Tonite they're only going to count the # of pRovi's and mail them to Honolulu tomorrow.

Basically, it's their way of fucking the people most likely to vote for Paul, ie. anyone who hasn't voted repub in Hawaii the last 300 years.

NO MORE LIES. Ron Paul 2012.

So will we know the # of prov. ballots tonight?

If the number's big enough, it could set off another firestorm like with Maine's late caucus in Washington County.

IF all the Rp observers are keen

and write down the totals and give it to the campaign there might be a chance. David Chang is the new party chair. He wants to last a long time. HE def. supports Romney but his sharp and will not show allegiance to anyone. He made it abundantly clear that he did not want another "Maine". However the Chair of Caucus, Andrew Walden, openly writes hit pieces on Ron Paul since 2007 http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/11/the_odd_alliance_supp... and will be counting these by himself in Honolulu. Honolulu is the one county where Ron is in DEAD LAST, while in the others he is basically tied for first. They will report Mitt as the winner. And then quietly release results that say Ron came in a close 2nd on Saturday morning and noone will notice. David will save face and remain in charge and the R.P. will be happy enough not to tear him down. SO HE HOPES.

NO MORE LIES. Ron Paul 2012.

American Samoa

Don't know if it's been posted yet. It's being reported that Romney has won all 9 delegates from American Samoa. Around 70 people voted. Haven't confirmed this independently yet. They all provide AP as a source and AP provides no sources.