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BREAKING : Virgin Islands GOP Removes Popular Vote to deny Ron Paul his win!

Shortly after Ron Paul actually won the popular vote in the Virgin Islands, the VI GOP has now deleted their list of popular vote totals, which showed Ron Paul won as an attempt to squash his first caucus win in the Presidential election and give the win to Mitt Romney!

The Virgin Island GOP now claim that it was only "out of respect for Congressman Paul's campaign" that he received more votes (without actually mentioning that fact, and in a bizarrely-worded grammatically incorrect sentence).

If they all state there is no way Ron Paul will win the republican nomination, then why not allow him his due and show a win for his first caucus? Could it be that YES, Ron Paul can actually win and the GOP is scared to death?

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Shocking!

I can't believe the GOP and MSM would try to cover up Paul's first popular vote victory! Lol

"Where liberty is, there is my country." -Benjamin Franklin

This is great!

Another bank robbery in broad daylight. The GOP agenda is being exposed. Get ready for the blowback.

"Give me liberty or give me death" Patrick Henry

Can't Have It Both Ways

It's not worth whining about. Decide what constitutes a "win" and stick with it. Ron Paul did not get the most delegates in the Virgin Islands and RPers are now complaining instead that he's being denied recognition for winning the "beauty contest" aspect of the caucus. Yeah, the media is biased, what else is new?

Absolutely correct

Except that there wasn't a beauty contest in that one. There weren't any votes for the candidates, just votes for delegates. Some of the delegates were committed to candidates, others weren't. One "uncommitted" candidate who was obviously known to be a Romney candidate declared for Romney after the vote.

Each voter could cast up to six votes, for the delegates of their choice. Romney had three potential delegates (plus the secret one) and Paul had six. The percentages you see cited are the percentages if you add up all the votes for the six Paul delegates, vs the total for the three Romney delegates NOT counting the stealth Romney delegate.

http://vigop.com/2012/03/vi-gop-2012-caucus-results-coming-s...

Three of the delegates Romney got were superdelegates who were already committed to Romney and not selected by vote.

They need to be expose....

in the local paper, also have someone investigate these people.

"Observe the masses,and do the opposite."

VI Popular Vote

I called the RNC about the popular vote being removed and I was given the name of Warren Cole to contact in the Virgin Islands GOP at 340-777-7700 or wbcole@hcvilaw.com

Ron Paul appears to have won the popular vote in the Virgin Islands! It such a small victory and yet the GOP seemed to think it needed to be expunged from the record. Unbelievable!

I took this right off the Virgin Island GOP website before it was removed: http://vigop.com/

Percentages

384 total cast

112 to Paul (29%) Won one delegate

101 to Romney (26%) Won three delegates plus three RNC member pledge. (Pick up a uncommitted delegate after the balloting for a total of seven.)

23 to Santorm (6%) No delegates

18 to Gingrich (5%) No delegates

130 Uncommitted (34%) Two delegates but one changed to Romney after the vote totals were announced

More Message For Less Money

What it would cost to put an ad in say..the Charlotte Observer, or the Asheville Times, that money could be taken and have an ad in the Shelby Star,(Cleveland County) the Daily Courier(Rutherford county)
My point..if the smaller, or rural areas are gone after..it can make a big impact.
Also the ads on local cable stations would be half the price of those in the bigger cities.

And btw..Get the college students to report on this. The young are making a difference..They can be the reporters/media here

I believe in Hope & Change..I Hope the government will Change
Spindale-Rutherford County-North Carolina

SAME THING happened in Washington State I believe.

Our numbers overwhelmed the caususes.

Hunreds (at least) were turned away from their causus locations (and it wasn't because they were LATE).

Even with that, we were basically tied with Romney in the early counting.

Then within about an hour, the bottom fell out quickly and Romney "ran away" with it.

WA STATE republican caucuses on March 3rd should be declared NULL and VOID.

"We have allowed our nation to be over-taxed, over-regulated, and overrun by bureaucrats. The founders would be ashamed of us for what we are putting up with."
-Ron Paul

Squash?

I love squash, especially with lots of butter...I hope it's never quashed. ;-)

Wha? .....hey....who stole my country?

Did anyone actually witness

Did anyone actually witness the delegate vote & count in VI?
Makes you wonder how accruate the count is..

It says it right here...

http://ivn.us/2012/03/13/media-misleads-as-ron-paul-gets-his...

and here
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/12/ron-paul-virgin-isl...

and here
http://www.whnt.com/news/whnt-ron-paul-wins-virgin-island-ca...

and here
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/mar/12/paul-nets-fi...

There are more news outlets that reported Ron Paul won the popular vote.... They all say but, Romney won the delegates. So he actually won. So that means so far Ron Paul won Nevada, Iowa and, Maine. Am I correct?

But, the above stories do show the totals of the popular vote..

It's time! Rand Paul 2016!

"Truth, Justice, and the American Way!"

And this is why we should go 3rd party now....

The GOP has their party on lockdown. The deal has been made, the money has been paid, and there ain't no way they're gonna let us in. Why waste any more time competing with Romney and Santorum when we can declare a 3rd party and run and get the jump on Obama?... Romney, Santorum, and Gingrich may be duking it out for months to come. We should take this opportunity to quietly slip out and start campaigning against Obama before the GOP convention even arrives. Of course the media will ignore us, but it should be evident to you that they are going to ignore us no matter what we do. This is our chance. If ever America was ready for a third party, this is the year. There's no sense in playing a game that is unfairly rigged against you. It's a waste of time and a waste of money. I will admit that our campaigns do well in spreading the message of liberty, however, some of us are not happy with JUST spreading the message, we want to WIN.... but how can we win if we can't even compete?... Seriously folks, it's time to consider going third party.

"sometimes I hug the coffee table when no one is looking."

Not now...

You don't dump the booster rocket until its fuel is exhausted. Let the GOP flame out first; we'll keep accelerating.

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Now is

not the time to duck out of the GOP. The goal is to ultimately win the ideological fight, not just a high profile campaign for the 2012 GOP nomination and the presidency. Stay true to yourself and the principles and we'll start winning.

Listen carefully to what people say about deficits and wars, deep down they understand. They just don't recognize it yet. We have the truth on our side but now, unlike in 1964 for example, we have the Internet to spread it.

I mean, didn't the Libertarian Party show that the Dem/Rep dichotomy is too strong to break through at this point? If we can make the GOP receptive to the ideas, then we don't have to work against the structural barriers of getting into debates and candidates on ballots.

"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."

-- Arthur Schopenhauer

As a 30 year Republican - I've always resisted 3rd party talk

But the more I see the blatant corruption in my party that I've seen forever in the Democratic party, the more I seriously I think about it.

If, as a movement, we all switched over to the constitutional party we could, over time, build into a serious party.. it is how both the democratic party and republican party were built... out only challenge then would preventing our new party from becoming perverted.

It's becoming very obvious to me that if we want to have our liberty we're going to have to pull it from the teeth of the collectivists... and we might have to knock some out to do that.

The GOP would like nothing better than for RP (at THIS TIME)

to go third party.....They would be happy....this is the tipping point....they are in control now, but the word is getting out and the people know it.

SequoiaTrees4RonPaul

quietly slip out is the prob..we already lose the info war..

When we go 3rd party it means all efforts to take over the GOP goes down
the drain...
and we will have even less media exposure..

We are getting many delegates and are on to a open convention.

Its now on US to inform and educate the people. If everyone does this in his neighbourhood then we might get a greater backing of the popular vote.
Most votes are based on false assumptions that are pushed by the media.

Its all about information


Once people know what the Dr. stands for without the media spinning his message he wins their minds and hearts!

take over your neighbourhood..

These flyers are all free to print:
http://www.mediafire.com/?s4snpbpsts5b3

been there, done that...

I remember back in '08 when vote fraud was just as much of a problem as it appears to be this year. We had that whole deal with the "Granny Warriors" and lawsuits were being filed and we were all filled with a feeling that somehow the truth would overcome the lies of the GOP. Didn't happen. And then we were gonna have this HUGE liberty march in association with Campaign for Liberty, it happened, but it wasn't too huge. We had our own convention to counter the GOP, but the media ignored it as usual. There was much talk of delegates and math and how Ron Paul could pull it off somehow. Many of us kept on believing that Ron had a secret plan to win the presidency, but nope. We were left with Ron endorsing Chuck Baldwin and urging voters to go third party. All the work, all the effort, all the money and all we got was ignored. And this year doesn't seem to be any different. Many of you have a strong belief that we can somehow takeover the GOP, and you may be right, but how long will that take... and can America wait that long?... Neo-conservatives are deeply embedded in the GOP, we know them well. Do you really think we have a chance against them?... No matter what we do, they'll just buy a way around it. We Paul supporters can be somewhat naive in the idea that we think liberty can be won with votes. Elections are bought and paid for, votes are meaningless, and our whole system is corrupt... where is there room for liberty amongst so much corruption?... Let me break it down for ya: Would you play poker with a table full of mindreaders?... Would you knowingly buy into a game where you knew your opponents could see every hand you had and predict every move you'd make?.. Would you sit down at the table knowing you were going to lose.. knowing that you had zero chance of beating your opponents?... Would you continue to buy back in even though your opponents chip stacks were up to the ceiling?...or would you rather play in a fair game?.... We have to look at the GOP as a being this table full of unfair poker opponents. We can't win against them because the game's fixed. So, WHY would we keep buying back in!?!?!?!?.... We need to stand up, flip the card table over, and demand a fair game with worthy opponents! As a poker player, I can tell ya, if you're getting hustled at a game, the best thing to do, is DO NOT PLAY WITH THE HUSTLERS!!!!..... Anyway, let's go third party.

"sometimes I hug the coffee table when no one is looking."

You're making

valid points, no argument. It is frustrating and seemingly hopeless. It's not, even with the post-2008 doldrums we are being more successful. We can't give up this time. If they want two parties then we have to work with that limitation. You and I know it shouldn't be, but that's not recognizing reality. It may all be for naught, but I think that if it really is too late then the ultimate reality is that it won't matter anyway if RP goes 3rd party. So as long as the 'system' is what it is, then we have to keep chipping away at it. There's no way to predict the moment when it all goes from 'kooky' to 'well, duh'. But what is for sure is that it will and if not for us, then for future generations. We didn't get here overnight and digging back out won't be done in a 4-year cycle either.

"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."

-- Arthur Schopenhauer

You dont see it.

Here is the deal, If you know someone is stealing but you can't catch them in the act, what do you do? Let them go until someone else catches them red handed. We all know and see what is going on here. The GOP is picking the nominee, our votes don't count, and the MSM is ignoring Ron Paul as to not uncover the truth.
Eventually other Republicans will be able to see what is going on as well as we do. This will discredit the current GOP and make voters very angry which might just make them rally behind the good Dr.

"Give me liberty or give me death" Patrick Henry

Dr. Paul not only CAN win..

he WILL win. I can feel it.

paul people show up

who does the media have us vote for

I just called the NATIONAL GOP and this is what they said:

I said I was calling about the Virgin Islands results.....
immediately without waiting for my question, the guy who answered said,
"Romney won"....I said that is not my understanding....

He said, " he won the delegates and so he won".

I said I'm not calling about the delegates and why are you not waiting to find out why I am calling? (This guy was a real arrogant overbearing A&HOLE) Then he started lecturing me on how each prmary and caucus is different...and Romney won the delegates in VI so Romney won.

I said I am calling to confirm that Dr.Paul won the POPULAR vote..He interrupted me and kept repeating "Romney won the delegates so he won". (The phone guy was like a robot and did not answer my question.)

I said I am speaking for many others like myself who will not vote for a rigged election.

He said (very uninterestedly) "ok, well I can certainly pass that along". He didn't even protest or commet on my statement about a rigged election.

He was waiting for that phone call...I hope someone else calls and sees if you get the same respones.

Here is the phone number:

202) 863-8500

SequoiaTrees4RonPaul

I called the number and spoke with Fred (no last name)

He was polite. When I asked him who wo the caucus, he said he didn't have that info and he directed me to the chairman of the VI republican party but the name and number he gave me was to a lawyer named WB Cole with an email address at a law firm. He said he read that info from the VI republican party

Ignore the media's lies and propaganda.

The GOP is heinously stupid

The GOP is heinously stupid to keep making it this blatant. There will be a backlash at one time or another whether it means the ousting of these fools from their own party or whether it means the complete liquidation of the GOP party population, rendering them powerless.

GOP drones are told:

When asked who won or will win the GOP primaries or nomination say "Romney".

You do not need to know why or what he stands for. Dump your brains in a basket and simply repeat "Romney". Now run along and do your duty to the party Comrade.

The law cannot make a wicked person virtuous…God’s grace alone can accomplish such a thing.
Ron Paul - The Revolution

Setting a good example is a far better way to spread ideals than through force of arms. Ron Paul

Good thing they are the

Good thing they are the owners of the corporate media propaganda machine so they can put a lid on this story.

The unwritten story

of this campaign is how Romney is paying professional party people, media types, pundits, and local pols to promote his inevitibility and to tone down or ignore competitor advances. It may not be blatant electoral fraud but it is dishonest corruption. I blame the people taking the tainted cash as much as the Romney campaign for spreading it.

No, actually IT IS blatant......

Election Fraud and not just in the primary states who mostly have Diebold (now called ES&S) but also the caucus states where it is more difficult, however, not impossible as we have notedly witnessed.

Found a screen shot of the original site

Don't you just love Dr. Paul's supporters. They know it's coming so they take the screen shots. Here it is if you need it http://i41.tinypic.com/33xwor7.png

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