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GOP Feels Their Cheating is Justified

In the 2008 election cycle, I noticed the Texas Republicans in my district convention (Travis County, N. Austin) pushed their loyalist insiders very hard to turn out and battle Ron Paul supporters for delegate slots. They sent out mailers (on a non-partisan non-profit's stationery and dime) saying that anti-family, anti-life insurgents were trying to take over the party. They also did robo-calls (from the same non-profit) with the same message. At the convention, they wired up homeschool kids with secret mics so they would be able to monitor and relay the conversations of certain RP targets they were instructed to benignly approach. Robert's Rules were selectively enforced, points-of-order routinely ignored, "plants" stationed at microphones to steer the agenda, and protesters threatened with expulsion if they objected to the chairman's heavy-handed tactics. This was a level of desperation and paranoia I was not anticipating. It got even worse at the RNC Convention with a blacklist complete with photos, and RP supporters assigned to various party elite for monitoring and harassment. The McCain security force inside the arena picked up where the state party leadership left off, monitoring media interviews and confiscating non-McCain literature from peoples' pockets and purses.

I am not surprised by the rampant election fraud taking place across the board this primary season. My theory is that these good Christian folks feel justified in lying, cheating, intimidating, and stealing because they believe the Republican Party is being hijacked by gay, pot-smoking anarchists. They act like valiant warriors, praying confusion and discord upon RP activists in the name of Jesus. I witnessed this at a "Prayer Breakfast" in Austin. I now call their meeting the "Curse Breakfast" because that is literally what they do over coffee and barbecued pork tacos.

My theory is that the GOP establishment feels justified in cheating to avoid what they perceive as a hijacking. Little do they know that we will be successful regardless of their dirty dealings, even if all we have to do is outlive them. Discuss.

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BTW...Many Christ followers support Dr. Paul

... there are many Christ followers who support Ron Paul. Many neocons are Christians, true, but it's also true that many Christians are not neocons, but rather Ron Paul supporters.

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C’mon boys, let’s take the plunder!

"Neocon Christians" is an oxymoron

Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. Matthew 7:15-20

I am for peace: but when I speak, they are for war. Ps 120:7
Better to be divided by truth than united in error.
"I am the door." -Jesus Christ

Who Said "Don't Awake The Sleeping Giant".

A short film based on a true event in 1946:



Not supporting GOP

As a republican I am not supporting the GOP party. Today I got a phone call from a nice man from GOP party asking for a donation. I politely said no because of what the GOP is doing to RP. He insisted that the money will go to help whoever I supported, yeah right. He asked again for a donation and I stayed firm, NO! Hit em where it hurts. I just wanted to share that here with my fellow RP supporters, thanks for listening.

It is better to look dumb and not be, than to look smart and not be.

mountaincat's picture

I made a small pledge to them

But my financial situation prevented me from meeting that obligation. I suppose I will get over it (ha ha) Fortunately I am nearly maxed out to the Paul campaign before this degradation occurred.

No doubt about the 'Curse Breakfast'

I live here in Houston and I have seen the same thing happen. One guy told me at a Christian meeting after church - that they prayed to God and that God told him that Ron Paul supporters were 'confused'. I smiled. I'm 37, I know the issues, the outcomes of both approaches, the problems with both parties, the bills passed which have hurt our freedom, who signed them, and this guy didn't. Though he could quote Galatians 2:20. He couldn't tell you what the 3rd amendment was. He pulled the Christian card on me to show that he *knows*... like he was some 4th century Gnostic.

We're fighting invincible ignorance.

I decided to fight back. So I immediately asked him if he'd be so kind to watch my stuff as I had some reconciliation with God and wanted to ask God to inform me about this confusion. So I went over to the prayer corner, an area designated for a one on one with the Almighty. There was a cross resting atop a kneeler structure which was right in plain sight of this fellow from which I returned after about 3 minutes.

I walked over and thanked him for watching my items, where I started collecting my bible and notepad. He looked at me with anticipation. I said, "Well, I was just talking to God...", I said with a gesture to the prayer corner, "and he told me that Santorum will spend money like a teenager with a credit card and that he wants to talk to you again."

I nodded and headed for the door.

"It does not take a majority to prevail but rather an irate, tireless minority keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men."

--Samuel Adams

I know what you mean

I was outside of a Santorum speech with a Ron Paul sign. A guy told me, flat out, that he would trust the Bible over medicine since medicine could change and the Bible has been constant.

Geaux Tigers and Go Blue

Yeah - I've gotten that before as well

I always retort with Matthew 5:9 Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called sons of God.

And then say since that scripture hasn't changed I find it highly hypocritical that Republicans are interpreting that as blessed are the war-makers, for they will be called "Exceptional" in the eyes of God.

Don't give them an inch.

"It does not take a majority to prevail but rather an irate, tireless minority keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men."

--Samuel Adams

Bwahahahahaha thats

Bwahahahahaha thats awesome.

I had a "good christian" tell me recently that the entire middle east needs to be nuked. We are doomed. American Exceptionalism at its finest.

A nation of sheep breeds a government of wolves.

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The belly laugh I got from reading your post was a Godsend, as are you. Rock on!

It IS so ignorant that they coalesce around big government candidates (a.k.a. Family Values Fascists) and assume that liberty-minded folks are Godless heathens. You'd think they would be trying to "save" the heathens in the GOP, not curse us. Their true colors show when Christians mix with politicians.

Do you think Rick "Santa" Sanitarium will sweep in Texas and we'll get to fight these same people at the state convention? I think we RP supporters should host a huge prayer breakfast. No, seriously. Have it at the same time as theirs.

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I'd be delighted to organize a breakfast

It would be a very big deal.

"It does not take a majority to prevail but rather an irate, tireless minority keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men."

--Samuel Adams

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I will gladly serve on your committee if you'll have me. Hosting a simultaneous prayer breakfast on the other side of the wall from theirs is so symbolic of the chasm that must be breached for unity, I think it would actually send a strong POSITIVE message in an ironic way. We could even skim some of their usual speakers. ;)

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One more thing...

After that rant, one quick comment. Within the party, we shouldn't antagonize different factions against us. It's not productive, and doesn't serve Dr. Paul.

Dr. Paul has tried to explain that his ideology is more Republican, if only you go back pre-New Deal. It's our party, too, and if we approach neoconservatives with an attitude oriented toward persuasion and cooperation rather than contempt, we'll get more done.

These cheats described in this post probably make up a concerted minority, and when they paint us as the usurpers, if our actions belie their claims, the middle of the party will not support their shenanigans.

Why Santorum is sickening, and will do well in TX

hey sent out mailers (on a non-partisan non-profit's stationery and dime) saying that anti-family, anti-life insurgents were trying to take over the party.

Ron Paul is more pro-family, as he wants a free market economy that allows the family to thrive and doesn't subsidize its breakdown via welfare dependence.

He's also more pro-life, he just won't bastardize the 14th amendment to advance that cause. He said abortion is a "violent act...like murder", but he realizes forcing states like SD, UT, & GA to share family law with MA, CA, & VT is not only absurd, but would sew the seeds of discontent, doing more damage than good. These states can't even agree on whether a homeowner has a right to shoot an intruder, much less where a woman's right ends and a child's rights begin.

My theory is that these good Christian folks feel justified in lying, cheating, intimidating, and stealing because they believe the Republican Party is being hijacked by gay, pot-smoking anarchists.

This is what angers me about Santorum. I'm a heterosexual Texan who has never smoked...anything, but Santorum doesn't represent me one bit. He denigrates libertarianism, mocking it as anarchism. Libertarianism advances a Rule of Law, and anarchism advances licentious abandon where power dictates what goes. Santorum is MORE anarchic, insofar as he sacrifices our Constitutional rule of law to the prerogatives of federal power.

How is it Christian to make someone suffer through chermotherapy if marijuana can help them? Is it not Christian to alleviate suffering with charitable good acts when you (not the government) can do so?

How is it federalist to stop California from allowing medicinal marijuana? 3 Southern states of a very conservative bent filed an amicus brief supporting California in courts, and one of the most conservative jurists on the Supreme Court (in my view the best), Mr. Clarence Thomas, sided with Raich. He called out as dubious the notion that a state has a right to let people kill themselves, but not smoke marijuana to alleviate pain.

Perhaps homosexuality is a sin, but most of our parents sin. Doesn't make them bad parents, as all Christians before Christ sin - thankful that Jesus died for our sins and tilled a pathway we can repentfully walk. So, are foster families where a kid is a dollar sign preferable to loving homosexual parents? Santorum says that's a state choice, but wants to federalize marriage. That's disingenuous - since adoption policy tends to piggy-back off of marriage!

Even Jesus threw a fit with tax collectors, but Santorum keeps the Leviathan wheels a'churning. Give unto Caesar only what is Caesars, not one penny more!

Interesting perspective...

...now get to your nearest caucus and convince others that need it!

I always...

...attend the precinct and County/Senate District Conventions; however, since Texas moved them due to redistricting court battles, I have to find out when Collin County is having them. I believe they're in April.

Whenever and however they block you

Just work around them. If they have 5 "toughs" near the podium, take ten, if they have ten, take 20.

In this battle, there is no high ground. It's a dirty after-school fight.

The Untouchables

That's the Chicago way... and that's how ya get Capone!

For me,...

..the GOP is shooting itself on the foot with what they're doing. We'll debunk "the end justifies the means."

Truthbearer's picture

Take a look at this

Here is an interesting read that spells it out pretty well.

All this is all in collusion with the war for profit machine and zionist agenda to start WW III for the rothschilds banksters.

The Criminal Plot to Stop Ron Paul:



Campaign should have this more monitored...

as Santorum and Romney people are invovled in some way with the vote counting.


I just wish one of them would

I just wish one of them would fully explain the reasoning the GOP has to go against Ron instead of hailing him as the greatest candidate they have possibly EVER produced. I mean..what is so wrong in their minds about a fellow Republican that they have to commit lies and fraud to "keep him down"..??? What is their true agenda? I want one of them to tell me.

It's so hard to understand their thinking!

I am 50+ and a RP supporter and attend church regularly.
I occasionally talk politics with a few of my closest friends in the Church, but I cant seem to convince them that RP can win the nomination. They always say "I like RP, but we have to nominate someone that can beat Obama". To which I reply" Yes, but if we only nominate someone who is just like Obama what have we gained, the policies would be the same, spend,spend,spend." They look at me blankly as if they cant comprehend. I have decided they are not trying to comprehend, they are trying to get me to vote for someone other than RP. It very frusterating when you cant get honest folks to understand that "honesty is the best policy".
But I keep trying, maybe they will see the light, like I did!

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I absolutely believe it's because

Ron Paul is Not for Sale! And that won't work with Crony Corruption Control Crowd. Remember all the Legislation that's passed that has made all of us SUBJECTS of our Govt...
(and Suspects)

Susie 4 Liberty

You're wrong~~~it's NOT because they think we're pot-smoking

anarchists. They know the majority of us are not pot-smokers. They KNOW this. They see CLEARLY with their eyes the ages of the Ron Paul supporters. They see how educated and intelligent we all are. They SEE the BABY BOOMERS, and they see the college-educated.

In other words, THEY KNOW. They just don't care, and they are so warped by the GOP party and so brainwashed by them to think that we are anti-war freaks, WEIRDO'S in that regard, and in fact, stupid in every regard that they can then, rationalize and degrade us with impunity.

Period. It is THEY who are BENEATH CONTEMPT.

The Media is not what it used to be

I think the media scam works so well with the over 50 crowd because we grew up in an age where the media was trusted to give you the honest truth instead of an organized effort to advance the owner corporation.

I was beginning to wonder how a new organization as unreliable as FOX even stayed in business expecially with their childish programs (guess how old a certain celib is) and stuff like that.)

Then the light came on for me when I read the history of the rothchilds, rockefellers, etc and realized that their plan was in place and it was easy to keep us in the dark as long as they owned all of the media.

What's worse...

The pot-smoker in the basement on Saturday who gets to work Monday morning, or the cigarette-smoking pregnant mother to be giving her kid a higher chance of asthma, low-birth weight, and other ailments???

Humans 101

They always feel justified, right or wrong.


I compare GOP to Pharisees in the Bible, especially how some of them report Nevada working-girls vote for Ron Paul. One day, GOD will judge.

They do.

What's wrong with Nevada prostitutes "pimping for Paul"? Ron Paul has never advocated prostitution. Come all ye faithful to the tribe of Liberty.

Doesn't change the fact that Ron Paul's family values speak for themselves: 55-year marriage, many children and grandchildren, all standing by him and supporting him, just as he did them.

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