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Alabama Election Fraud -Video Proof!? Wow!

Saw this on Ben Swann's facebook page!! I understand this is not 100% hard proof, but it is the video evidence we need more of, both at the primaries and the caucases. It just makes you wonder after everthing that's happened up to this point. Thank you Dustin!

Facebook poster: Dustin Rudzinski

This is happening a lot around AL right now... I recorded this clip, and then hours later my grandmother went in to vote. I told her to scan her ballot using the other machine (She too is a Paul supporter), and the exact same thing happened to her. We both were told we had to put our ballots in a box to be counted later.

http://youtu.be/1xcJG6X2kt4

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I voted in Mobile, AL and for

I voted in Mobile, AL and for Ron Paul and I didn't have a problem with the voting machine.

Alex Jones speaks up on Vote Fraud, Election Fraud....

Time to hit these frauds in every direction!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSioh0ZYJrI&feature=related

Ron Paul election fraud confirmed: Engaged in all out war against everyday Americans
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSioh0ZYJrI&feature=related

Right now, flat out.....Election Fraud is here & its time to prosecute it in court. Flood the courts, use the legal edicts & crush them.

Mystery solved?

http://www.local15tv.com/news/local/story/Issues-Cause-Delay...

Local news reported on this. Apparently there was a small white dot misprint on some of the ballots. Still doesn't explain why all Paul delegates are getting 40K - 50K more votes than he received though. BTW, the video seems to stop about midway through :(

They will NEVER be able to explain this.

I sure do hope LFRP is all over this.

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purpose of secret ballot/voting

Imagine this scenario: 9 Ron Paul voters say that anyone who doesn't vote for Paul is a "dummy." These 9 voters videotape themselves voting for Paul and post their tapes for others to view. A 10th voter walks in and casts a vote. When the votes are counted there are nine votes for Paul and one for Romney. No one asked the 10th voter who he voted for, but the 9 voters are calling him a dummy. Does anyone know why?

Class, it is called the Process of Elimination. :-)

Now that we understand this concept, the real question is: Do we want secret ballots or not?

How about getting a machine that prints out a receipt after it reads our ballot. The receipt would give the ballot number and the names of the candidates that were voted for on that ballot. The voter would have proof of his vote and the assurance that the machine read his ballot correctly. The voter would also have the option of destroying that receipt if he wished to maintain his anonymity and privacy.

I agree!

We need receipts... Wake up America it's 2012, we no longer live in the stone age!! If we can get a receipt for bubble gum... This is owed to us as an American! It's not that hard. These machines need to be reinvented right away!

How about just hand-counting.

It doesn't take THAT long.

The machine I voted on

does print a receipt and you see the receipt pass by plexiglass as it prints. You don't keep it because all the receipts are saved as a back-up in case the electronic data disappears.

So, they're kind of already doing that, but would just have to print an additional copy with a different color background and wording about not being for the vote count.

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Actually on the electronic

Actually on the electronic voting system I recently was trained on, they accept undervotes with no problem, they will however spit out overvotes and request the poll worker to manually intervene. So it's unclear why this ballot was spit back out.

The slot the worker put the ballot in is an emergency slot used in case power goes down or other problems. I don't know if the ballot will actually be counted, it will depend on whether these poll workers inform the election board officials of this ballot.

There is no record of the ballot electronically, so the only way to audit if this ballot was thrown out would be to check the actual ballot count, minus officially spoiled ballots, and it should show that there is at least 1 more ballot used than there were votes cast and ballots spoiled.

ballots that are rejected by the machine

should be taken to the poll workers and be immediately destroyed in the presence of the voter. Then a new ballot should be given to the voter to try again, IMO.

when the local election board

when the local election board finalizes the election they will have to certify that that ballot count is accurate. That the count on the tape from the machine plus the total amount of spoiled ballots equals the number of ballots issued. They would have to intentionally commit fraud and spoil this ballot by filling out and signing a spoiled ballot form in order for this vote not to get counted.

The ballots on the system in oklahoma are serial numbered to prevent being counted twice, I'm not sure however if the spoiled ballot form also contains the serial number, it probably does, it should anyway.

Though I would like to think this is voter fraud it is NOT

Though this video is a good example of how people need to be better trained in to the uses of these machines. This person in his over excitement to Vote missed the point of why the machine kick his ballot out in the first place. From the looks of it he only voted in the Presidental Primary Contests and from the looks of the ballot there were other Contests to Be voted in.(These Elections are not always just about Presidential Contests) Most likely the reason the machine would not just except the ballot is because the ballot was not complete and called for the poll worker to either manually except the ballot or return it to voter to complete voting for ALL contests on the ballot. So from the looks of it this person willfully Spoiled his own ballot and Chose not to vote in this election. Also there is the issue of the Poll Workers not being Properly trained. They Go through a 1 hour Crash course in how to be an Poll worker a week before the election. Its usually older people that dont understand the technology. because you dont get too many younger volunteers to come and sit at a polling location for the whole day.

Are you saying that the

Are you saying that the machine doesn't have a clear message indicating that there is insufficient information and that we require a highly trained poll worker to inform the voter of the problem? Wow . . . IF that were true, then it would appear to me that we are talking about 1950 computer technology.

Either you are trying to pull the wool over our eyes or the technology being used is totally useless. If it is useless then your support for these machines over paper ballots is suspicious.

Undervotes should never be an issue. If they are, the citizens

need to take that up with election officials and have the machines changed.

Its NOT voter fraud its Election fraud

If a person wants to not fill out the whole ballot person has the right to do so.

I filled out the ballot

I filled out the ballot completely, both sides, for all elections, and double checked to make sure I had not voted for delegates for another candidate or accidentally voted for 2 delegates/candidates running for the same chair. I know what I'm doing. There was no "willful" spoiling of my vote going on here. You're jumping to conclusions.

Were there N/A

options for the other races? I regularly and purposely skip certain races and haven't had a problem before.

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pen

in ny they provide you with black felt markers. in this video the guy is using a regular bic pen. Not saying that is the reason for the fail but it could be. And just being devils advocate here - he did not show the entire ballot on both sides, there could also be stray marks (intentional or not).

the lady who was helping him was polite.

while a printed receipt of somekind from the scanner would be nice - there is no way of publishing anonymously each vote without the possibility of being traced back to the voter or a small number of voters.

every method has fail points. even the oldstyle machines (which I prefer) gave no assurance that the vote total increased as the totals were on the back of the machine.

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No

The type of ink has nothing to do with the reason it rejected the ballot these machine are designed to read white and not white.

Error

Please check the correct candidate and then re-submit your ballot. Thank you. Sincerely. The United States of Goldman Sachs.

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A Succinct Summation Of The Whole Process

From polls, to media coverage, to voting, to delegate selection.

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Cameras

"A massive 200,000 webcam network and half-a million observers are contributing to what is being billed as Russia’s most transparent election yet.

The observant army is a response to angry protesters who chanted ‘we don’t forget and we don’t forgive’ after December’s parliamentary vote. They believe the election was rigged.

In response, the authorities decided webcams at all 98,000 polling-stations would solve the problem. Russian tax payers have forked out over US$300 million for the online monitoring system, doubling the initial cost of the vote. The election is now officially the most transparent – and the most expensive – in the nation’s history......."

http://rt.com/news/vote-cameras-election-transparent-783/

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Alabama
Only voters, police, and election officials are allowed within 30 feet of polling places.

(Code of Ala. § 17-7-18.) This would seem to prohibit media and individuals who have already voted.Appointed watchers have the right “generally to observe the conduct of the election.” (Code of Ala. § 17-9-29.) But this rule says nothing about unappointed observers, nor the ability to record images.Loitering around a polling place “for the purpose of discouraging qualified electors” is a misdemeanor, carrying fines between $25 and $500.

(Code of Ala. § 17-7-19.) The language implies that mere loitering, without this purpose, is technically permitted.Alabama enacted new election statutes that will take effect on January 1, 2007. These answers reflect current law.

Code of Ala. § 17-7-18 (2006): Persons prohibited near polling place. Except as electors are admitted to vote and persons to assist them as herein provided, and except the sheriff or his deputy, the inspectors, returning officer, clerks of elections and watchers, no person shall be permitted within 30 feet of the polling place.

Code of Ala. § 17-7-19 (2006): Loitering near polling place. (Repealed effective January 1, 2007) Any person who loiters in, around or about a polling place on election day for the purpose of discouraging qualified electors from entering the voting place, or from voting, or whoever having voted enters or stands in a line or file of voters waiting to vote, is guilty of a misdemeanor and upon conviction shall be fined not less than $25.00 nor more than $500.00.

Code of Ala. § 17-23-8 (2006): Obstructing voting process. (Repealed effective January 1, 2007) Any person who, on election day, disturbs or prevents, or attempts to prevent, any elector from freely casting his ballot must, on conviction, be fined not less than $500.00 nor more than $1,000.00, and also sentenced to hard labor for the county, or imprisoned in the county jail for not less than six months nor more than one year.

Code of Ala. § 17-9-29 (2006): Watchers. (Repealed effective January 1, 2007) At all elections in which voting machines are used, duly appointed watchers shall have the right to see all oaths administered and signed, the record of assisted voters, the list of qualified voters, the poll lists and any and all records made in connection with the election. Watchers shall have the right to observe the preliminaries of opening the polls, as provided in Section 17-9-18, and the right to remain in the polling place throughout the election and until the results of the election shall have been posted, and the machines sealed, as provided by law. Watchers shall have the right generally to observe the conduct of the election. An official who refuses to allow any watchers to exercise such rights shall be guilty of a misdemeanor, and, upon conviction, shall be punished as prescribed by law.

http://citmedia.org/blog/2006/11/06/state-laws-vary-on-polling-place-photography/

Some resources to help you document your vote as well.

Dustin here... You should do this too, as long as it's legal. Check here to see if videotaping your vote is legal in your state.

http://www.citmedialaw.org/legal-guide/documenting-your-vote...

meh..

voted today in north al. nothing suspicious.

only thing i don't get is voting for delegates. especially if they're bound to a candidate. who cares if mike d. or sandra m. is elected as a delegate if they're listed under that candidate?

also.. how are you supposed to know who ANY of these people are before hand?

When you have two people

When you have two people running for the same delegate spot, how do you determine who will get the spot? Voting seems the most natural option. Wish AL did a caucas instead of a primary :(

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Does anyone know

Where the law can be found that covers video recording of your own ballot, and the distance the poll worker must keep?

This is the type of thing we should all have with us to throw in their face!

By claiming there is no conspiracy, you prove to those who believe in the conspiracy that you are part of the conspiracy.

Laws that reference Photography at polling places across the US

http://citmedia.org/blog/2006/11/06/state-laws-vary-on-polli...

Alabama
Only voters, police, and election officials are allowed within 30 feet of polling places.

(Code of Ala. § 17-7-18.) This would seem to prohibit media and individuals who have already voted.Appointed watchers have the right “generally to observe the conduct of the election.” (Code of Ala. § 17-9-29.) But this rule says nothing about unappointed observers, nor the ability to record images.Loitering around a polling place “for the purpose of discouraging qualified electors” is a misdemeanor, carrying fines between $25 and $500.

(Code of Ala. § 17-7-19.) The language implies that mere loitering, without this purpose, is technically permitted.Alabama enacted new election statutes that will take effect on January 1, 2007. These answers reflect current law.

Code of Ala. § 17-7-18 (2006): Persons prohibited near polling place. Except as electors are admitted to vote and persons to assist them as herein provided, and except the sheriff or his deputy, the inspectors, returning officer, clerks of elections and watchers, no person shall be permitted within 30 feet of the polling place.

Code of Ala. § 17-7-19 (2006): Loitering near polling place. (Repealed effective January 1, 2007) Any person who loiters in, around or about a polling place on election day for the purpose of discouraging qualified electors from entering the voting place, or from voting, or whoever having voted enters or stands in a line or file of voters waiting to vote, is guilty of a misdemeanor and upon conviction shall be fined not less than $25.00 nor more than $500.00.

Code of Ala. § 17-23-8 (2006): Obstructing voting process. (Repealed effective January 1, 2007) Any person who, on election day, disturbs or prevents, or attempts to prevent, any elector from freely casting his ballot must, on conviction, be fined not less than $500.00 nor more than $1,000.00, and also sentenced to hard labor for the county, or imprisoned in the county jail for not less than six months nor more than one year.

Code of Ala. § 17-9-29 (2006): Watchers. (Repealed effective January 1, 2007) At all elections in which voting machines are used, duly appointed watchers shall have the right to see all oaths administered and signed, the record of assisted voters, the list of qualified voters, the poll lists and any and all records made in connection with the election. Watchers shall have the right to observe the preliminaries of opening the polls, as provided in Section 17-9-18, and the right to remain in the polling place throughout the election and until the results of the election shall have been posted, and the machines sealed, as provided by law. Watchers shall have the right generally to observe the conduct of the election. An official who refuses to allow any watchers to exercise such rights shall be guilty of a misdemeanor, and, upon conviction, shall be punished as prescribed by law.