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A view from the other side: GOP got railroaded..

http://hillbuzz.org/ron-pauls-devious-plan-to-steal-the-pres...

Fascinating little insight into the reactions occurring on the other side as people find out, personally, that Ron Paul has a path to the nomination..

Also an issue that is going to have to be dealt with over time - there is a lot of division on both sides regarding this election.



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In Their World

Playing by the rules, being organized, and having a true majority is considered "cheating" and "stealing". But election fraud, delegate pre-selection, and violation of Roberts rules and GOP party rules is considered the "normal process".

sharkhearted's picture

I just posted these comments to her blog on Ron Paul being..

.."dangerous." We'll see if they get edited or blocked, but here's what I said:

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“Dangerous”??

Yes. Dangerous…to the Republican and Democratic Establishments.

Dangerous…to all of the special interest empires such as the Military Industrial Complex, the Prison Industrial Complex, the Food, Agricultural & Chemical Complex, Medical & Entitlement Complex, the Financial Complex, Big Labor, Big Pharma, etc.

Dangerous…to things like Socialism, Fascism, Corporatism, the NDAA, the PATRIOT Act, the new HR 347 Act that makes free speech a felony, the UN Gun Control measures, Agenda 21, etc.

Dangerous…to the Departments of Education, Commerce, Energy, and Housing & Urban Development

He is so very dangerous…that he has never accepted a penny from lobbyists…and lobbyists routinely ignore him because, as Jack Abramoff says “they know he can’t be bought.”

He is so very, very dangerous…that he wants to stop wasting billions of taxpayer money in foreign countries, bring the troops home to defend THIS country, and that he is the overwhelming choice of the troops, where they donate to his campaign more than ALL the other candidates combined, including Obama.

Yeah, a 76-year old OB-GYN who has delivered over 4,000 babies, who has written many books on dangerous things like liberty, life and private property and defending the constitution, been married and faithful to the same woman for 55 years, and who has never ever had to change his position on anything while in Congress because he had it all right the first time…

Yeah he’s dangerous all right!

~Chris (A reformed McCain-voting ex-neocon turned Paul supporter)
Norfolk, VA

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

Nicely done

Bravo.

Wha? .....hey....who stole my country?

sharkhearted's picture

Many thanks!

Your friend in liberty,

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

brilliant!

... can I copy paste it to every online newspaper out there? ;)

sharkhearted's picture

Absolutely!

Please do so. Thank you!

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

What goes around comes around

This is how we (Ron Paul supporters) were treated in 2008. We had no idea how the caucus/conventions worked, weren't very versed in Roberts Rules.

We got our hineys handed to us.

This time around, we have learned, we have become part of the GOP, and we are organized.

I made two comments. Neither have been approved

1st:
I’m don’t understand how Dr. Ron Paul running for the GOP nomination is anything but honest. Ron Paul has always been honest and has never “flip flopped.” How can you say Ron Paul is “stealing” delegates when these delegates are being elected.

Calling Ron Paul supporters names does not make you more credible. Do you just not want to support the Constitution? What are you trying to say?

2nd:
Is this election not about getting Obama out? Are you just so dedicated to undeclared war that you would like Obama over Dr. Paul, who would go to war, but would need legistaltive approval. Do you just want a president like Obama that thinks we should take our orders from the United Nations?

This is the most encouraging thing I've heard in weeks!

GOD BLESS the great patriots there in Minnesota for making a stand.

Let's do this NATIONWIDE!!!

"We have allowed our nation to be over-taxed, over-regulated, and overrun by bureaucrats. The founders would be ashamed of us for what we are putting up with."
-Ron Paul

We are planning the same

In King county WA on Saturday.

Don't worry, we will be there.

The comments are the same

sentiments heard in the convention we won last cycle. This is how the country was designed to work. We are re-awakening the Republic.

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More like Ron Paul’s GENIUS plan to steal the nomination!

I’m really going to enjoy watching all you clueless Neo-Con warmongering traitors, and your disgustingly corrupt GOP party get turned inside out and brought back to what our founders intended from MY seat on my county’s GOP Central Committee.

“I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue!

When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign: that the dunces are all in confederacy against him. ~J. Swift

Oh SNAP!

Check out what I just posted in the comments of that blog. I usually don't write like this, but I was inspired:

Hi there, Romneybot.

See what I did there? I took the only thing I know about you and completely marginalized you holistically... your character, your intelligence, your integrity, based only on a single data point. Fun, right?

What you are seeing is organization behind the scenes by the grassroots. Ron Paul will not win the popular vote because the GOP establishment will not ALLOW it. They will rob him of it (see comments by former high ranking RNC individual Dee Dee Benke before the Iowa caucuses). This fraud, however, I'm sure you are complicit with, because it works in favor of your candidate. Ron Paul is capitalizing on a change in the Republican Party's delegate rules that were designed to help Romney win in Southern States.

What I DO understand is why the establishment fears him... audit the Fed, audit the CIA, and BAM... a huge money-making scheme of cronyism, invasion, and resource exploitation abroad is exposed, and some very, very, VERY rich people go to prison for life. I get it.

What I DON'T understand is why the average voter fears him. Why do people reject the idea of true liberty and freedom, while embracing the crony, plastic, fake, industrial freedom that not only does not benefit them, but operates at their expense? We aren't the beneficiaries of this so-called "freedom." This crony freedom is sold to us by praying on apathy and ignorance, while robbing you of your life, liberty, and property.

So, if I'm a Paulbot because I love true freedom, true capitalism, sound money, and truly free markets, then indeed you should fear me, bacause I am not just a Paulbot, I am a Paul-VOLTRON.

My friend owns the Voltron rights

Trying to make it into a movie. Side note

No one has deputized America to play Wyatt Earp to the world.
-Pat Buchanan

That's pretty amazing

As a casting note, I would make an awesome Red Lion.

Cracks starting to show in the foundation.

The GOP ruse of the Caucus and Primary votes is beginning to expose itself. This article has made my day. Thanks Tamminator for spreading the good word.

There are no politicians or bankers in foxholes.

She's/He's an idiot

The Tamminator is an idiot and a cry baby, but I'm glad to hear we are functioning within the system sucessfully.

There are some popular pro-Ron Paul comments at the bottom

But you are right, it is absolutely ASTOUNDING how people roundly reject the ideas of REAL liberty and freedom... not this fake, plastic, industrial "freedom" we have now.

I bet every single person in that forum who wrote the word "PAULBOT" has no idea what the NDAA is.

I understand the crony Pravda GOP establishment fearing Ron Paul. Audit the Fed, audit the CIA, and you have just shut down a major money making scheme and put some filthy rich people behind bars for the rest of their lives. But the average person being afraid of Ron Paul... I just don't get it. I am utterly speechless.

Couldn't resist commenting myself :)

She is obviousliy an idiot and perfectly happy spouting the party line as it's the easiest to learn. A friend of hers, somebody -60, was complaining that she and her son had come to the caucus and said they were Ron Paul supporters but weren't allowed to delegate because they weren't on a list. Good thing too. So Romnians are being coached to lie about their loyalties to make some inway into the process. Looks like the people on the ground are on to it.

Especially liked that after a day, The Tamminator and all other Romnians only had between 1 and 15 likes by their comments while most Paulistas had between 300 and 700. Mua ha!

Now it's about the Constitution and the fight to defend it.

I for one

am proud of some of those commentators. I'm sure they have opened a few eyes and minds.

Lol the GOP is actually

Lol the GOP is actually terrified of Paul. This kind of makes me laugh. Only in America can the idea of freedom be so scary.

One world, under government, with power and money for the elite

he needs a few emails

not of the usual sort...but a few to spread disinformation. There is no changing or influencing a die-hard neocon like this, so i would suggest a few emails to lull him back to sleep or sow more confusion in his ranks. Write and say that you are from such and such state and everything seems fine, that you and your fellow republicans caught on to the laup nor scheme and routed them from getting a foothold...blah blah blah.
make him chase his tail and pump up his sense of paranoia, he won't know who to trust or what to believe.

oh my bad

Tamminator is a woman...well, its all the same, you get the idea.

It's actually...chilling

'Deliverance'-like chilling- to read posts that offer a glimpse into the world view of the rabid anti-Paul people. I never realized how truly frightening and dangerous ignorant people can be until I developed an interest in politics.

Not supporting GOP

As a republican I am not supporting the GOP party. Today I got a phone call from a nice man from GOP party asking for a donation. I politely said no because of what the GOP is doing to RP. He insisted that the money will go to help whoever I supported, yeah right. He asked again for a donation and I stayed firm, NO! Hit em where it hurts. I just wanted to share that here with my fellow RP supporters, thanks for listening.

It is better to look dumb and not be, than to look smart and not be.

If they call again looking for money,

tell them you will gladly contribute when the GOP selects Ron Paul as the presidential nominee on the Republican ticket, but nothing until that time.

“It is the food which you furnish to your mind that determines the whole character of your life.”
―Emmet Fox

Great Idea

Great Idea, Thanks.

It is better to look dumb and not be, than to look smart and not be.

I was going to add

that you ask them to take you off of their calling list but, DON'T DO THAT. You never know when they will be contacting you to show up at a meeting. Show up and bring your friends and family members with you and get your district on the correct path... courteously.

“It is the food which you furnish to your mind that determines the whole character of your life.”
―Emmet Fox

She is mad because she has an entitlement mentality

She thinks she is entitled to political power.

Notice how she writes that Paul supporters made a motion to add those present at the caucus to the list of delegate candidates.

She says, "Before the convention, delegates had been contacted to see if we were interested in running for the State Delegate positions, and we were given plenty of time to put our names in the hat to run for these positions."

This is a VERY interesting admission on her part. SHE was contacted BEFORE the caucus to become a delegate. She THOUGHT that meant that SHE HAD ALREADY BEEN SELECTED to be a delegate BEFORE the caucus ever met. She was upset that OTHER people could become delegates - and/or that they could VOTE HER OUT.

And ... just WHO gets contacted by the GOP insiders BEFORE the caucus to become delegates? Would that be Ron Paul supporters? LOLOLOLOL ... don't make me spit up my lunch!

IT is ONLY the people who are cuddly with the party insiders who get asked to become delegates -- and in nominations past, nobody else objected (or probably even knew that was how they did it).

Now that RP supporters are wise to their methods ... SHE IS PISSED.

And then she has the gall to be angry that people would use the Rules of Order at ... a political meeting. Oh, the horror!

LOL.

Who is Luap Nor?

Tamminator is a typical Ditto Head, a real Fox News kind of guy. Whatever they say, he agrees. Real shallow thinker.

alan laney