My interesting call with the Republican National Committee
Submitted by betty on Wed, 03/14/2012 - 18:18Per my given disgust with the behavior of the Republican Leadership, I decided to give a call to the Republican National Committee and spoke to their constituent services. I relayed my dismay at their lack of response and admittance of the schism in the Republican Party. This led to the question of what would happen to the Republican Party IF Ron Paul did not win the nomination. They're view is that the majority of us would simply roll over to support Romney (or Santorum, for that matter). Case closed to their mind. Furthermore, they feel that Ron Paul would never run on an independent ticket because it would hurt his son's career! WoW!
Every Ron Paul supporter needs to contact them and make it clear that:
1) No, we will not roll over and support another Republican candidate. It's Ron Paul or nothing!
2) We don't understand their stance that Rand Paul's political career would be dimmed by his father running for a third party. Perhaps they can clarify this.
3) What if Ron Paul did run on an independent ticket. What would happen to the Republican Party?
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dumb move to threaten them
to go 3rd party unless you're 100% certain to win which is not at all the case.
If RP runs third party you can forget about taking over the GOP and we will be in the political wilderness if RP doesn't win. The GOP is weaker than ever right now and is ripe for the picking if we're determined. Going third party would just kill the movement within the GOP or at least roll it back by at least one election cycle. Our ideas ARE making ground in the GOP platform (sound money, fiscal conservatism and even the foreign policy argument is advancing our way).
The neocons took several decades to take over the GOP, it is naive to think that we will do it in one cycle. We have to be patient and focused.
Stop being so emotional about it. yes, they treat us like shit now but that's because they are arrogant which is their weak point. Don't be so reactionary and think about this enterprise in the long run.
"If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom — go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, an
3rd party run WE WIN
we're in this to WIN by their rules, we don't care who we piss off ... continuing with delegate strategy up to the convention, Dr. Paul will have a significant amount of supporters if not a majority. If the nominee is anyone but Paul do you think that those delegates are going to carry out the GOP platform for a NeoCon they detest. It's already been said that we will write him in. NO ONE BUT PAUL.. They have ignored us, marginalized us, lied, cheated. So if anyone's worried about offending the GOP and waiting to be accepted arms wide open. WAKE UP! That's not gonna happen. We are taking over the GOP, even if it means destroying it to do so... We already poll ahead of BHO nationally, and just think of the opportunity of naming a strong unifying VP. Here's how it works...
http://ronpaulflix.com/2012/03/josh-tolley-ron-paul-is-going...
bumping!
Love to hear comments and hear of action!
betty
Please reconsider advocating
Please reconsider advocating this.
Talk of Paul running third party simply proves to the GOP that he (and Paul supporters) are not serious about being Republicans or supporting the Republican party. It reinforces to them that we are the enemy.
Two term Republican Governor Gary Johnson will likely be the Libertarian nominee so Paul supporters will have the option of voting for Johnson or staying home. Either way Romney will likely lose.
Ron Paul or nothing is a powerful enough message to get across to the GOP. Remind them that more registered voters stayed home than voted for McCain in '08. If they nominate someone who supports an interventionist foreign policy then they will lose again in '12. It's not just Paul supporters who are tired of the wars. The GOP needs the Independent voters to win, and they aren't going to get them with a neoconservative candidate.
Another way to tell them how you feel and that you're serious? List off the Congressional and state level Republican candidates that you've donated money to and will continue donating money to. Let them know that you are supporting Liberty oriented candidates and will continue to do so whether Paul is the nominee or not. Justin Amash, Glen Bradley, etc... are a real thorn in the side of the GOP establishment and the GOP is hoping that if Paul isn't the nominee then we'll all just go back to watching American Idol and won't support those candidates.
Liars, Cheats, Thieves and
Liars, Cheats, Thieves and Murderers.
Remember this is who we are dealing with. Never ever mistake the armani suit for having any integrity. These are among the lowest forms of life on the planet. They suck the life out of everywhere they lead whether it's in washington or your local county office. They are consuming America at a frightening speed. Remember what those crazies did in the 60's in protesting the war in Vietnam? Look it up on youtube. Can you compare anything in the last decade with that? I guess this is what they call evolution? I call it devolution.
The world is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good things is my religion. Thomas Paine Godfather of the American Revolution)
You inspired me to write an
You inspired me to write an email to the email at the link. I feel much better now. Thank you. hehehe
My email to the RNC:
"LOL, you are kidding yourselves. We are not going to be good little sheople. And a 3rd Party run wouldn't hurt Rand Paul.
So, let me make this clear. Ron Paul's supporters are people who have integrity and stand on principle, as does Ron Paul, which is why we support him. The other candidates do not have those qualities, are dishonest, and corrupt.
A 3rd Party run would decimate the GOP, leaving nothing but a group of delusional neocons, warmongers, and those who go through life half asleep.
And that 3rd Party would be filled with high energy, intelligent, principled, logical people of all ages, including much of the 40% of voters who are independent, as well as the discontented Democrats.
That said, Ron Paul supporters will not support any of the other 3 candidates. Not going to happen. If anyone other than Ron Paul is nominated, the GOP loses.
Ron Paul = White House
No Ron Paul = the GOP goes into the dustbins of history.
So, is the GOP going to continue committing vote and election fraud to deny Ron Paul, thereby committing party suicide?
Or, will you stop the fraud and theft, make sure the media gives fair and equal coverage including Ron Paul, meaning Ron Paul and the GOP win the White House?
It seems rather ignorant to continue down the path of party destruction and this country's destruction, when a Ron Paul Presidency will take huge steps to righting the ship for all of us.
NO MORE BS * VOTE For RON PAUL 2012
Regards, "
RON PAUL 2012 * Restore America * Bring The Troops Home
http://www.texasuncensored.blogspot.com
... you do know that two
... you do know that two term Republican Governor Gary Johnson will likely be running third party as a the Libertarian candidate? He's already polling at around 7% in a race against Romney and Obama.
These people don't decide
These people don't decide anything, the delegates do! Reach the National delegates!
As for #2, If Paul runs third party and Obama wins, the Republicans will be mad at Paul and will likely direct some of that anger toward Rand since Ron will be retired. It's called revenge.
How about a facebook bomb
Have at it:
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Republican-Party/1078912359058...
Mathew 5:9 Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.
IF (big IF) RP did go 3rd party, Rand could go along with him
and get his supporters also. People are ready for another choice besides Dems and Repubs. Bottom line, though, I really do trust that RP knows what's the best way to go. We need to support him in the Repub party as long as he is there. Even if the establishment are a bunch of douche bags!
~Your perception becomes your reality~
GOP? I'm to the point of this
Dear
GOPWorld:They may torture my body, break my bones, even kill me. Then they will have my dead body, but not my obedience.
SCB
c/o
Mohandas K Gandhi
Freedom is not: doing everything you want to.
Freedom is: not having to do what you don't want to do.
~ Joyce Meyer
Hahahahaa Thats why each State there is always
a quote from the local GOP party official saying we're happy about the new turnout, they think we will hold our noses!! no way,
IF Ron isn't the GOP candidate I hope he runs on the libertarian ticket, move Gary to VP. I would love to see Ron debate Obama and Mitt or haha santa.
Rand Paul has a career. He is a doctor!
He did not do this(run for office) for his agrandizement. He ran for US!!! When are you people going to listen. Do you really think Rand gives a damn about political careers? He is here for one reason only.
Get our country back on track. Get US off our asses and give US the opportunity to do it ourselves. If he was out of office tomorrow I am pretty sure he would spend at least 3 hours washing the STENCH of DC and every politician off his body. Then he would go back to work helping his patients.
Ron on the other hand is NOT going to run 3rd party. If we don't do it this time, he will be free(retired) to help us grow and destroy the politicians left in Washington until Rand is ready. Would he do this? I think so. No matter what Ron Paul will NEVER give up the fight for FREEDOM!
Ron told us this will be a long fight. Did any of you listen. He would NEVER hang any of his supporters out to dry. Least of all those that sacrificed so much. We now have many in the GOP bedrock organization that the fault lines have now changed. If Ron doesn't get it this time the Neo-Cons will die in four more years. We will not need the media. We will not need anything. We will control the party in EVERY aspect.
Then the NWO/GOP/DEM/ status quo will try to change the rules except we will be one of the two parties. They truly are screwed and are too STUPID to admit it.
Just thinking of their agony sends a CHILL UP MY LEG! LoL!
Jim
1976-1982 USMC, Having my hands in the soil keeps me from soiling my hands on useless politicians.
Personally I don't think the GOP is truly scared
At least they don't act it. They seemed to have ramped up their abuse towards Dr. Paul. Now they seem to be helping each state not only commit voter fraud but even when he wins, as in the case of the Virgin Islands, they hide the results and report them to the media so that the general public NEVER knows about the win. As far as the majority of Americans now know, Dr. Paul has never won any state. It would be good if the GOP got nervous - very nervous in fact. They can't do any worse when it comes to votes and how would it be possible to discount Dr. Paul anymore in the press? I think they need to know that most of us, myself included, will NOT EVER AGAIN roll over and just vote for whomever they choose - and I for one will not vote for any of the other 3 that are running against Dr. Paul - that just puts this country to sleep for another few years and we have no way to remove them in 4 more years.
As far as Rand Paul - he can take care of his own career I am sure. I am not going to vote for a corrupt presidential candidate to help Rand Paul in some future candidacy. That is like giving into their overwhelming corruption and intimidation.
The GOP needs to know that we stand on principle...not with a party that has no principle.
Oh by the way I have been a republican all my life and i have never been more ashamed to say I am an Republican after what I have seen this election cycle. I do think they need to know how easy it is to see how corrupt the GOP is to those who are looking.
slm
Are you really that naive?
Did you not hear Gingrich a month ago, when he said he would not vote for Paul if he was on the ticket? To the effect, that he would vote Obama instead?
Do you really think they care about losing to Obama? Do you not realize yet that they lost last time to Obama by running McCain (the Wind powered car McCain), just to defeat Paul!?
It is time your read Quigley on the need for the two parties 'Tweedledee and Tweedledum', to control the masses and their vote, and read and learned from the great historians of the last century who explained the FED and it's God-like stature in the minds of both parties, and it's Midas -like touch for the pocket books of all big donors to major lobbyists!
Focus on changing the attitudes of delegates, and gaining more for Paul! Now, while we still have the time!
I agree that a 3rd party run might
hurt Rand's or another Paul's political career, at least with the media. It would give them one more stupid question to ask him over and over and over again.
However, it's pretty clear to me that we would not all get in line behind whoever else may become the Repub. nominee, and hold our nose and vote 'the lesser of 2 evils'; because imo the lesser of 2 evils is still evil. There was even a poll of sorts on here about that not long ago... and 4 years ago in the general election I voted for Chuck Baldwin, because there was no way I was going to vote for McCain. I did vote Republican for most other offices, however. fwiw.
I sent my email to them
I sent my email to them
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They can't get it
They're still caught up in their own point of view: because if THEY were in Paul's situation, THEY would do that.
They still don't understand that Ron Paul supporters are fundamentally different, and that Ron Paul is fundamentally different. We are NOT like them at all.
"Moderation in temper is always a virtue; but moderation in principle is always a vice." -- Thomas Paine
It's not just Rand. It's me too and more like us.
I joined the GOP to FIGHT for Ron Paul to get the GOP nomination. Along the way, I found myself having to get on the ballot to be elected to my local GOP central committee to become a delegate. There are dozens of Ron Paul Republicans on the ballots this year FIGHTING for this rEVOLution.
If Ron Paul left the GOP, so he could take advantage of all those who did not follow him into the GOP, IF Ron Paul left me and dozens of people (if not hundreds) like me, facing the Neocons IN OUR HOMETOWNS... IF Ron Paul were to abandon us, for people who never got serious about Restoring the Republic, but like vultures, waited for us to FAIL, so Ron Paul will suit them, Ron Paul would politically HURT every single one of his MOST DEDICATED followers.
The National GOP is correct, Ron Paul WILL NOT GO THIRD PARTY or Indy and leave Rand and all those REAL PEOPLE WHO PUT OUR NECKS ON THE LINE, for those who thought they were so smart and wouldn't get their hands and feet dirty to really make changes.
The fight, THE GOOD FIGHT, is INSIDE the GOP and WE ARE WINNING, and everyone who didn't join the GOP because you bought the LIES of MSM and wouldn't follow Ron Paul into the Party to restore the Republic, YOU WILL FAIL (and that's why I LOVE RON PAUL, because he's got my back. YOU DON'T!).
STAND WITH RAND 2016
winning?
Wining? As far as I can tell the GOP is just getting more and more aggressive in voter fraud and now in the caucuses and conventions - doing everything they can to shove their candidate down our throats. I have been a republican all my life but I am now more than ashamed of the party as a whole. I have never seen such corruption. Maybe it has always been there and I never noticed before since my head has only been out of the sand since August but I for one will not stand by just anyone in the Republican party - NO WAY. All that will do is allow this country to go back to sleep for the next few years thinking they have made a change and Romney, Santorum and Gingrich will not be a change from Obama.
slm
YES Don't believe MSM
First they ignor you
then they laugh at you
then they fight you
THEN YOU WIN
We are winning!! They are losing the fight.
STAND WITH RAND 2016
I think
I think you are taking this too personal. If RP doesn't win the GOP nomination, and I say "IF". Then, I hope he runs 3rd party. I will never support the status quo in any party, ever again. I'm equally afraid of Romney/Santorum/Gingrich as I am of Obama. It's not the people, it's what they stand for. They are all the same.
Work inside the party as long as possible. But, don't get your feelings hurt, if/when RP decides to go 3rd party. It's about winning, and it has nothing to do with what party you're affiliated with.
That's because you're not a Republican
That's because you haven't put your life on the line for Ron Paul to win. My bet is, you won't. You're brainwahsed by MSM.
That's because you're hoping Ron Paul and all the people like me who joined the GOP because Ron Paul asked us to join, to help him win the nomination, to get involved, to GROW this rEVOLution and RESTORE AMERICA.. instead...
You don't listen to Ron Paul.
You listen to MSM.
You hope we FAIL.
We won't.
Ron Paul is not going to abandon me and Rand and people like us for people like you, who don't have the heart, brain, and GUTS to get your hands dirty fighting this good fight.
I'm SO GLAD I joined the GOP. It's shear pleasure being a Ron Paul Republican and fighting for YOUR Liberty, while you wait for us to FAIL.
We won't!
STAND WITH RAND 2016
betty
although im interested in all 3 conclusions....im most interested in the answer to question 2...seriosuly, what do they mean by hurting rand paul's career...? lmao
Ron Paul or none at all
I for one would NEVER consider voting for one of the three stooges: Willard, Newt, or Sanatorium. Those three are simply not an option for me. I will write-in Ron Paul, vote for Ron Paul in a Third Party, or vote Third Party. Those are my only three options as far as I'm concerned.
ALWAYS
Make your point in a positive manner. Use phrases like these:
"Look around the rooms in the state conventions. Aside from the Ron Paul supporters, there aren't any young GOP activists at all. Those people will be a mainstay in the GOP base for the next 50 years, but not if we don't reach out to them."
"Those young people are not your enemies. They are the present and future of the Republican party. If we continue to alienate them, we are handing victory to the Democrats."
"If we want to defeat Obama, we should be embracing and welcoming these young people, NOT driving them out."
Trust me, these statements will mortify the party establishment. Planting seeds of doubt and worry is more effective.
nah, both parties are one in
nah, both parties are one in the same, the head honchos couldn't care less about the youth or the other party winning at this point in time. their plan is to just keep the aging baby boomers in the parties for a few more decades to make it seem like there is a battle of republicans and democrats, and then flee the country just before the economy and monetary system completely crashes. they don't give a fuck.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFxvy9XyUtg
YOU MUST BE VERY CAREFUL
about these sentiments and remarks. Just think, if I was to go calling my state's e-board & throwing around threats it would get them all on the defensive for our state's convention. THAT'S THE LAST THING YOU WANT!!!!!
If I did this in my county, before my county convention, I would be TOAST!! This kind of threatening verbalization will get you NOWHERE! If you were a delegate, you'd NEVER talk like this. So, I have to ask, are you delegates? If so, SHUT UP! If you're not a delegate, than why aren't you??? That's you main job right now. GO STEALTH - GET ELECTED A DELEGATE - DO EVERYTHING YOU CAN TO BE PERCEIVED AS A GOOD REPUBLICAN - GET ELECTED A STATE DELEGATE TO TAMPA.
Now, how does making threats help you get elected a state delegate? Tell me?
Those kinds of threats are
Those kinds of threats are one component of motivating someone to look in a certain direction , to perhaps flinch, and maybe flinch at precisely the right time the "politician" that you sound like can have an opportunity laid in front. You don't really believe that those openings will come nicely do you?
With the kind of rotten dirty traitorous actions that have already been taken against Ron, against the movement, against America by these swine you better believe there's a place for those who want to kick the dooors down and get the camera's rolling, others who want to take to the streets in protest and do so in the most vigorous of ways , the politician who wants to talk his way in and the others who want to cheer them on.
Hopefully it's not too late for all those components ( and more) to happen and change the course of history. It's not going to change on a message board, that's for sure. But it's a component.
The world is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good things is my religion. Thomas Paine Godfather of the American Revolution)
Interesting. They say if Ron
Interesting. They say if Ron Paul ran as an independant, it would hurt his son's career? That begs the question, How can it hurt his career? Aren't WE the people the ones who elect our representatives?
If this is true, it tells me they are admitting corruption.
Besides, I'm not so sure it would hurt his career.
If Ron Paul ran as an independant and won, imagine the exposure the liberty movement would get, as he would have a huge microphone.
This could only benefit Rand Paul in the long term.