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Open Thread: Missouri Caucuses - Saturday March 17 - 24

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I don't have to be "100

I don't have to be "100 certain to win" to support a third party. We need to compare the realistic options. According to your own argument, the goal is to build for FUTURE victory, third party or not.

Exactly

"According to your own argument, the goal is to build for FUTURE victory, third party or not"

Yes, exactly. Going 3rd party and then losing would stop the movement in its tracks or would set it back where it was years ago in terms of acceptance in the political discourse specially in the GOP.

Our best hope is to take over that party precinct by precinct, state by state. It sounds harder than it actually is but if we're dedicated and LOYAL to each other and to the principles we will prevail in a few years, it's inevitable.

"If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom — go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, an

Okay then, let's get

Okay then, let's get specific. If RP loses the nomination, what should we do? It would be foolhardy not to have a contingency plan. Specifics please. This is a serious question.

Third party is easy to say..

Third party is easy to say..

but don't forget Barry already has a war chest of at least 130 million (some say 1 billion) and the Paul Campaign has maybe a couple? If Mr. Paypal could drop 150 million on us then we would win if there was no computer voting fraud. The GOP is truly on their game there so what do you think?

I'm thinking it wouldn't hurt to dust off the 2nd Amendment with a group of Vote/GOP Official Watchers for the upcoming meetings.

Now it's about the Constitution and the fight to defend it.

Agree

the GOP is criminal

The Jackson County Caucus Is Next

Saturday, March 24th...Jackson County is the 2nd largest county by population in Missouri...

When Santorum campaigned here, he spoke at John Knox Village, a 1500 Home Retirement Community in Lees Summit, MO...

The Jackson County Caucus is only an 8 minute bus ride from John Knox Village...

I believe that the Santorum campaign is going to have hundreds of these senior citizens bussed to the Caucus, so that they will vote to bind the delegates to Rick Santorum...

There won't be enough Ron Paul supporters to over-ride the vote and RP supporters will be shut out...

Then let's go to the retirement village ourselves

and talk to as many of the seniors as we can. Let's tell them the truth about Ron Paul and hand out fliers explaining his positions, etc. We can pull Santorum's rug right out from under him, and he won't be able to take the granny vote for granted anymore.

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free flyers:

We Need To Get As Many Ron Paul

supporters to go to this Caucus, whether they are wanting to be a delegate for RP or not...

That way RP supporters will have the numbers to vote down the rule to bind the delegates to Santorum...

Dear Ron Paul

please leave the GOP and run independent - Republicans (the establishment calling the shots and running things) are ugly, vile and evil. No one is going to be able to change any of their ways. Try all you want - they are ram rodding in Missouri and cheating in Maine and other states and no doubt voter fraud .... and all any of us do is talk about it - no one is going to do anything. All talk. Just leave the slimey GOP to their unethical ways.

Third Party

Just where is the money going to come from to run third party?

Barbara Tranquillo

Do you think running third party would "fix" anything?

Look at what the establishment is doing now.
It is true...the GOP is weak and just coming around from going almost belly-up. Take the dang-blang party over.
NOW!
Running third party would be as good as handing the corrupt party back over to the criminals. We can do better than that.
We can restore the party...then restore the republic.
Hang in there my fellow patriots. We are soooo close now.
Some of us have been working up to this for four years now.
And SOME of us for four decades.
Stand your ground.

RAND PAUL or NOT AT ALL

if you think this is bad

just try to run 3rd party in the national election. between Obama and the repubs the vote fraud will be massive,plus the superpac money on both sides. No, i think Ron is doing right in building His brand of republican and trying to take over the GOP from the inside. I just fear a 3rd party run would be worse than what we are already up against.

It's now or never for freedom

RESULTS

Heres what I pulled off twitter

Boone Co: Paul=48 Romney=5
Davies Co: Paul takes 3/4 of delegates
Hadley: Paul=2 Romeny=2 Santorum=2
Taney: Paul=22 (ALL)
Layfayette: Santorum=9 Romney=7 Paul=2 Newt=1
Texas: Santorum=11 (ALL)
Nodaway: Paul=6 Romney=2
Lawrence - Awarded proportionally - Paul got 3
Atchinson - Paul=1 Sanotrum=1 Romney=1
St Francois - 4 Paul supporters elected bound to other canidates
Midland - ALL Paul (not sure how many)
Franklin- Paul/Romney - think Paul won more
Queeny twnship - Romney (ALL)
Stone Co - Paul= 1 out of 14or16
Greene Co - Romney/Paul slate wins
McDonald Co: Slate of Uncommitted (delegates didnt express preference) - Paul's slates voted down

other Counties Paul won majority = Grundy, Stottard

Other Reported Romney majorities: Bollinger, Caldwell, pulaski, madison, gravois township, cole, creve coer twnship

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Fraud or Problems:
St Charles(largest county): shut down no delegates elected. cops helicopters, chairman arrested
Clay co - paul loses- reports of fraud
lemay - didnt allow paul slate to be voted for b/c 2 ppl didnt have voter cards
Wildhorse - Santorum wins - fraud reported
Newton - delegates prechosen?
Cooper Co. - GOP railroaded caucus (whatever that means?)
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***many reports of romney/paul camps teaming up to block out santorum** In Greene co, springfield, & more anyone know if thats true?

let me know if anything in this is incorrect.

New story

This article is called "How we take a corrupt GOP event and police state and blame it on the Ron Paul supporters"

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/raucous...

This is why...

Anyone with any other video needs to get it loaded to YouTube pronto, and post the links ASAP. We'll make them viral.
The revolution was never going to be easy.

RAND PAUL or NOT AT ALL

why not threaten to hunt

The GOP chairman... It sounds like St Charles was a disaster. I live in south city you try that BS we hunt you and put a brick through you car window. If this happens in the city look out. People will get hurt.

No one has deputized America to play Wyatt Earp to the world.
-Pat Buchanan

St. Louis City and St. Louis County are next Saturday,March 17th

It makes you wonder what will happen next in MO. The National Guard??

Because it's a terroristic

Because it's a terroristic threat.

If you need a psycopath-logic reason not to: It would reflect badly on the Paul supporters and be counterproductive. It might also get you and others busted.

= = = =
"Obama’s Economists: ‘Stimulus’ Has Cost $278,000 per Job."

That means: For each job "created or saved" about five were destroyed.

Out of 55 people in

Out of 55 people in attendance, with only about 1/5 of those RP supporters, we were able to get 1/2 of our county delegate slots filled with RP people with 2 others ready as alternate to go on to district. In addition the 2 guys I had chosen I wanted to go to state, were voted in as state delegates, with 3 more from our group serving as alternates. I am very happy with our outcome!!!

The only thing that would have made me happier was if we could filled every delegate and alternate slot with RP folk, but that would have been nearly impossible here with this county being overwhelmingly voted for Santorum in the primary. There were mostly Santorum speeches given, but even though we were asked to tell which candidate we represented and several of our group proclaimed themselves as Paul people, we were voted as delegate and alternates anyway. This was a huge victory for us, and we feel there are others going on to state who are possibly secret Paul supporters also.

Stone County Results

A relatively good outcome for us. We were outnumbered 14 out of 126. We took 1 out of 16 delegates and 3 out of 16 alternates for both CD Caucus and State Convention.

 
Freedom, Prosperity and Peace

a STL county caucaus

there were around 80 voting for Romney slate - close to 40 for the RP slate ...8 for Newt... there were only a couple of Frothy supporters and they joined the RP slate .... this slate of delegates goes to Romney - majority.
My guess is the majority of Romney people there today just found out about the caucus a day or two ago by robocalls from Blundt, Ashcroft and Romoney's wife .... Caucuses are all about numbers - you have to get hundreds to come out and vote .... thousands would be better - you can never have enough - never think you have enough.

According to Twitter...

Ron Paul has won Franklin, Boone, and Grundy counties.

http://twitter.com/#!/eyokley/status/181079735042981889
http://twitter.com/#!/FreeSebha/status/181099055886237696
http://twitter.com/#!/stlouis4ronpaul/status/18108756671032115

Franklin and Boone are both fairly large, and from what I can tell they are both in the redrawn 3rd district (which also contains the disenfranchised St. Charles County). Looks to me like MO-3 may end up being ours for the taking.

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What is this?

the Santorum show? St L City has not even voted til next week and this shows 100% ... also shows St Charles 100% they did not even get off the ground today. In several caucuses I heard of the Santorum people barely showed up ... I think in St Charles there were a handful - the rest were Romney and Paul ....
these numbers are bogus and typical of the GOP - the GOP is vile and evil ... I will never vote for a Republican other than RP and after today - what I am reading about St Charles - I hope RP runs 3rd Party ... there, I said it. Screw the Republicans.

Dig Deep

I hope you have deep pockets full of money

Barbara Tranquillo

That link shows what the results of Missouri's

Primary vote which occurred back in February were...

Bump this!

the People have spoken! Liberty is spreading!!!

"Earth provides enough to satisfy every man's need, but not every man's greed."~Mahatma Gandhi
Quick Humorous Satire course on Ron Paul: http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_65316&...

YES!!!!

I know the chair in Franklin...amazing man

rp supporters stand by as

a motion passes in early caucuses, binding all delegates to santorum's feb 7th beauty contest victory. wtf. http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/17/us/politics/in-missouri-th...