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This is Brent Stafford from Missouri - Updated #3

This is Brent Stafford. I wanted to let everyone know I am out of jail and am just now starting to read some of the posts about what happened today.

I am actually in my car right now, so I will post more complete details when I get to someplace where I can take more time.

First of all, thank you to everyone who was concerned and calling the police station. Apparently they were getting flooded with calls.

I was trying to reconvene the meeting in the gymnasium, according to the rules, and was told I have the leave the gym along with everyone else or I would be trespassing. I went outside and tried to let everyone know we were going to try to reconvene. Some people we trying to go to a nearby park to do so, but the rules are clear the the caucus may only be held in the location printed in the Call to Caucus printed in a newspaper 15 days prior. The ONLY place we could reconvene was at the high school.

I stood on a chair to address the crowd to let them know we were going to reconvene and what we needed to do. At that point I was approached by told I was under arrest.

More to come...

--------------- Update

Okay, I have a minute, and a beer! Here is the saga.

There are three main culprits to today's fiasco. Eugene Dokes - St. Charles County Republican Committee Chairman, Bryan Spencer - Chairman of the Caucus Committee for the St. Charles County GOP (he organized the caucus), and Matt Ehlen - The guy they installed as Chairman and who ended the meeting before conducting any business.

I approached Bryan Spencer several times, prior to the commencement of the caucus, to point out where things that were being planned violated the rules. He said, "We are going to do it this way, challenge it if you want." He is the one that was trying to rig the process to select delegates proportionally based on who was in attendance. They conducted a straw poll as people were checked in, in violation of State GOP rules.

The meeting was supposed to begin at 10:00am. There were so many people still in line that by the time the meeting was ready to start it was just after 11:00am.

Eugene Dokes started the meeting by immediately declaring there would be no video or audio recording allowed, and that if anyone refused to stop, they would be removed by police. The entire room of what has been reported as over 2,500 people began booing and demanding that recording be allowed. It was not just Ron Paul people.

Eugene Dokes then refused to commence the meeting until everyone stopped recording. I made multiple attempts to make a point of order to address the situation, but he refused to acknowledge me. He then left the podium and called the police.

There were St. Peters Police, St. Charles Police, St. Charles County Sheriffs, and Missouri Highway Patrol that eventually came into the gymnasium and through threat of arrest made everyone turn off their cameras. Of course many did not.

Eugene Dokes then started to convene the meeting a second time.

Let me digress a moment. We had prepared very well ahead of time. I won't get into all of the details, but the Mitt Romney people agreed to support me for Chairman. This was an incredible vote of confidence in my ability to chair and to convene a fair process. I had also hire the President of the Missouri Association of Parliamentarians who I intended to appoint for that role. I never got that chance.

Eugene Dokes appointed the Creditials Committee, Rules Committee, and Parliamentarian. These are all appointments made by the elected Chairman, not the temporary Chair which is what Eugene Dokes was acting as. The body loudly booed and started making all kinds of points of order and other declarations of disgust at the blatant disregard for the proper process.

He then opened the floor for nominations. I immediately started nominating myself multiple times. He recognized a woman, who was obviously preselected, who nominated Matt Ehlen. At that point about 2,000 people started chanting my name to be appointed. Eugene Dokes ignored that and called a hasty voice vote and declared the one nominee, Matt Ehlen, as the Chair.

Hundreds of people started calling for Division of the vote. Eugene Dokes ignored them all.

Matt Ehlen took the podium and tried to regain order. After anout 20 seconds he declared that St. Charles County would not send any delegates to the CD and State Conventions. He quickly found motions to adjourn and closed the meeting.

At that point I went to grab the parliamentarian I had hired. She had not been allowed inside, because of an arbitrary rule Bryan Spencer made up, but I had checked in with her by sticking my head through the door of and on earlier. I told her to come with me and I headed to the podium. I asked her how to reconvene and since no business had been conducted according to the Call to Convention, we had every right to reconvene.

I took the microphone and announced that people should not leave and that we would reconvene the meeting. Eugene Dokes came up and unplugged the microphone. At that point the police began ordering people out of the gymnasium.

At that point I went outside to try to reconvene the caucus, according to the rules. A number of people were going to go to another location to reconvene. I had to stop those that had not left and explained that we were required to convene at the location published 15 days prior in the newspaper or it would be invalid.

I then found where the biggest crowd had gathered and began to address the crowd. Everyone got quiet to hear me. There were 300-400 people there. I explained very quickly that we needed to begin collecting a roster, as required, and what that meant. I was immediately approached by 4 or 5 police of unknown jurisdictions who made me step down from the chair and put me into handcuffs.

When I asked what I was being arrested for, or if I was being arrested, I was told they would tell me later. Eventually I was booked for trespassing and released.

The actions of Eugene Doke, Bryan Spencer, and Matt Ehlen were the direct cause of the event getting out of control. They have tried to shift the blame, but it is all on them. If they had conducted the meeting according to Robert's Rules and the proper order of the agenda, none of this would have happened.

---------------- Update #2

I forgot to mention, I am on the St. Charles GOP Central Committee, the one Eugene Dokes is Chairman of, as well as being Chair, Vice-Chair, and Secretary of three different GOP Legislative Committees.

I need to remember to tell the media that. It was so crazy today I just wanted to tell what happened and forgot to mention it.

------------- Update #3

I have been doing interviews pretty much non-stop since this all happened. I have more set up for tomorrow. I even had a reporter come to my front door.

I have not had time to keep up with where they all appear, hopefully I can compile a list tomorrow.

I was really impressed with this one reporter. I will have to go look up his name later and put in here. Anyway, this guy really knew his stuff when it came to caucuses. There were times he would stop to describe for his listeners some complex issue, that I would have been happy to do myself, and the guy would nail it.

There are starting to be some developments concerning the aftermath and path forward. Its all in early stages so I won't get into it until things are more definite.

I have heard that Eugene Dokes is telling people Ron Paul supporters are threatening his family. My advice to Eugene is since I know he knows how to call police, call them on anyone making real threats. My advice to all of you is do not make physical threats. I would also leave his family out of it.



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Help needed to persuade my local delegates

Hello, I have a family member from the Northwest Township Republican Club that is asking for a speaker to come in April 18. The delegates are generally anti-Paul. If anyone reading this, can help, or know of someone who could -- please let me know.

This group has the delegates from another MO caucus just to the east (across the river) from St Charles.

There were

Some strange happenings in Jefferson County, Missouri as well. The voter roll vanished and was found again. All kinds of junk, I am unsure that it broke Robert's Rules though.

yeah I was afraid that Paul

yeah I was afraid that Paul opposition would make threats and pose as supporters...infiltrators...Paul people are passionate but not stupid!

"...the most memorable concern of mankind
is the guts it takes to
face the sunlight again."-Charles Bukowski

So is this Dokes guy going to

So is this Dokes guy going to get in trouble and are you going to re-caucus?

Is someone going through the

Is someone going through the comments and down voting them? Childish stuff...

Careful with your internet

Now that you have made yourself known, your internet is probably being monitored by the CIA! Freedom isn't free.

So what were you charged with and did you have to make bail to get out of jail?

Interested in running for congress?

It would be a big hit to beat him if you ran for Congress Brent

Do it!

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SequoiaTrees4RonPaul

Great Interview on Channel 2 Brett!

I've spoken with Ken Suitter.

I don't have contact info for you.

I have a call in to get legal representation which Ken agrees he needs.

I'd like to give you those details and contact info for Ken in case you don't have that.

I can be reached either thru the contact form here at DP or winliberty@gmail.com

voted down?

It looks like you're providing real help, Mr. Slevin. I can't imagine why someone would give you thumbs-down.

Brent

I already held you in high regard having seen you in action in '08, admiring your poise and leadership.... but after hearing you twice on the radio today (97.1 FM) my respect for you has ballooned beyond words.

The ease and clarity with which you have related Saturday's events has been stellar. Not only that, but you have managed to educate listeners about what the proper conduct of a caucus looks like, including Robert's Rules, the actual order of events as they are supposed to take place and who is responsible for what in a caucus. You have done this calmly and concisely. Amazing stuff!

God Bless You My Friend... and I will follow you into the valley of tyrants anytime you yell 'Charge!'

Dokes is a phony

That's the same nonsense the GOP goons in Maine tried in order to quiet us down. Sandra Blanchette told me this directly, that "they are worried for their lives" and "could you please publish something to resolve this for (GOP members') sake."

I asked her if she had any actual threats from Paul people, told her that was impossible. SHE SAID SHE HAD NO EVIDENCE FOR HER CLAIM. Then, she admitted that any threats and intimidation were probably arising from the GOP itself, so that their stooges wouldn't squak!! I tell this as absolute truth.

Do you have time for a nighttime interview on Tuesday, preaching to the choir? Let me know, might have avail.

Is dokes even a real person ? or an actor?

http://edokes.com/bio/

photoshoped pictures.(nice book, nice hat!)

Be Careful

What kind of a statement is this? "I have heard that Eugene Dokes is telling people Ron Paul supporters are threatening his family."

How does he know those making the threats are RP supporters? Do they announce who they support while making the threat? Is there some way to verify they are RP supporters and not Romney, Gingrich or Santorum supporters masquerading as RP supporters? Can he name names?

But none of that matters. It will all be about perception: RP supporters are a bunch of disruptive, sour-grapes rabble. We all know that - who has the most vocal, animated and borderline fanatical supporters in the race? Why, RP of course. There, that proves who made those threats.

This is strong potential for this to be spun by the MSM or the GOP in a very discouraging light for Ron's supporters.

In The Heat of the Moment

...there was one post (very immature and venting) related to this. If I recall nobody even commented as it was so *un Ron Paul*. If they can find it the Mods might want to delete it.
In retrospect, I wish I had commented on it.

It was just venting right after the event and every post on the DP certainly does not reflect Ron Paul supporters.

I hope all DP posters will read this and realize that such venting reflects poorly on all of us and would never be condoned by anyone on this blog. It could have even been a *plant* to later capitalize on. I hope nothing was posted like this anywhere else.

Just ALWAYS remember...What Would Ron Paul Do...and act accordingly. Please.

fonta

You can accuse anybody of

You can accuse anybody of anything and post it on the web and someone will say it is the unfiltered truth. I just grew 4 inches while typing, really!!

Um,...

Where? I mean, not that I care.

"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty" TJ

You are spot-on

It's just another lie and piece of libel from the terminally corrupt Stokes.

Question

Redacted by author.

You can still run AGAINST Eugene Dokes

From ronpaulforums:

MIZZO RESIDENTS: You can still run against Eugene Dokes!
Registration doesn't end until March 27th!

Who knows, maybe you could beat him on this caucus debacle alone? (Paging Brent Stafford!)

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?367718-MIZZO-RES...!

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know Peace." - Jimi Hendrix

VERY GOOD ADVICE

Please don't threaten anyone this will NOT help our cause lets take the high road.

Why can't we have police

Why can't we have police officers on call when the fraud begins?....

Some RP Supporters Have Done This

They hired local off-duty police and it worked out very well for them in the end.

Good to know...

Good to know...

Stuff like this

Should make the GOP establishment more concerned about Ron Paul supporters going underground as a delegate for one of the 3 stooges to get to convention and vote in Ron Paul.

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If RP supporters are going to work inside the system

and win in local districts, they must communicate and develop positive relationships with the local police precincts. Otherwise the establishment GOP/DNC can dominate all localities by use of force.

If you cannot educate your local police, there is no way to trust rule of law.

They knew before hand that

They knew before hand that the "no recording devices" law was going to cause Ron Paul supporters to speak out. This was not a shocking event for the GOP goons. It was calculated.

At that point all went as planned for them. The Chair could push thru anything they wanted and were then free to blame the "irate" Ron Paul supporters for "not listening" during appointments.

Check mate.

This is ugly stuff. I for one live in Texas and I will have Roberts Rules and a video camera in hand.

"Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do." -Benjamin Franklin

Little Elm, Tx

St.Brent, MO.

Thank You Brent, for legally "tresspassing" , for standing up, for speaking out, for keeping your head and your heart in the right place. OH and for keeping us posted. THe DAILY PAUL is truly a PATRIOT ACT!

With all due respect, I will no longer be a voting prostitute for Constitution rejecting harlots.

Kudos to TDP & Steve Brent

To Brent Stafford and all those stalwarts who make TDP
a wonderful hub for REAL facts free of spin/agenda.

Thanks, Steve, for being a 'stand-up guy' even when not on a chair, :)

Our right to vote no longer exists

After talking to a St Peters PR police officer yesterday, I now understand what happened. She was very gracious and respectful to me and answered my questions to the best of her ability. She offered to have a St Peters police supervisor call me today and I said I would appreciate it and thanked her. This is what I gather happened.

The gymnasium was rented by the party (GOP committee)
The Committee hired OFF DUTY St Peters police officers to work at the caucus.(These were NOT on duty police officers but rather what I call Rent-A-Cops.
The GOP Committee ended the meeting and told the Rent-A-Cops to call all of the police departments to remove the caucus goers from the property and arrest any that refused to leave.

Officers from St Peters, St Charles City, St Charles County and State were brought in to follow the orders of the GOP Committee members AND according to the PR officer, in COMBINED agreement of the School Officials. (This one REALLY floored me) The helicopter was NOT requested but rather heard the activity on the police radio and went to the scene of their own accord. I asked the officer WHY only two people were arrested for trespassing rather than all of the hundreds that were still there. Her response was that the rent-a-cops had warned the two individuals several times that they were trespassing and if they did not leave, they would be arrested. This statement made my blood boil, THEY WERE CHOSEN TO BE ARRESTED FOR A REASON.

Now, MY opinion of what really happened and I stated this information to the police officer that called me and I plan on repeating this same information to the Supervisor when he or she calls me. This is MY opinion and my opinion only but after hearing the information from the officer and watching the videos, I could come to no other conclusion.

After the 2008 primary and the huge amount of Ron Paul support and delegates winning at the St Charles caucus, they had to stop that from happening again this year. The committee was prepared, and the entire causus plan was completed before anyone even walked through the front door. Keep in mind that the same thing happened in alot of the caucus's all over the state including mine. In some cases the Committee crooks won and in others, they backed down.

In a nutshell, they steamrolled their chair through and stopped the Ron Paul supporters from becoming delegates in the largest Ron Paul county in the state. That was their goal and their only goal. The really corrupt thing about this is they USED the police to accomplish their goal. Brent was outside doing exactly what he had a right to do which was reconvene the meeting. He was overwhelmingly the chosen chair and he was utilizing his Roberts Rules rights and Constitutional rights to continue the election and delegate process. IF the Brent and the caucus goers had left the caucus site, Brent could not have accomplished this so they had to stay at the caucus area and they HAD THE RIGHT TO STAY because the school was rented for the caucus UNTIL 1:00.

The ONLY way the GOP committee could stop caucus goers from accomplishing their legal right to reconvene was to REMOVE THEIR CHOSEN CHAIR. A small private GOP committee USED the very police that the caucus goers pay for with their tax money to serve and protect their citizens rights to TAKE AWAY one of their most cherished and important rights we have in this country...THE RIGHT TO VOTE! The police look like thugs, the GOP wins and walks away smelling like a rose and the caucus goers look like a vicious mob.

THIS is what we are up against and THIS is what scares the hell out of me. The fact that a small group of people control 4 police departments and use them against a group of Americans that want to stop exactly what happened to them. It is true....our votes DO NOT COUNT...this is election fraud at it's worst and the GOP in my mind are a bunch of bullies and thugs and should be not only shut down but prosecuted as criminals.