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This is Brent Stafford from Missouri - Updated #3

This is Brent Stafford. I wanted to let everyone know I am out of jail and am just now starting to read some of the posts about what happened today.

I am actually in my car right now, so I will post more complete details when I get to someplace where I can take more time.

First of all, thank you to everyone who was concerned and calling the police station. Apparently they were getting flooded with calls.

I was trying to reconvene the meeting in the gymnasium, according to the rules, and was told I have the leave the gym along with everyone else or I would be trespassing. I went outside and tried to let everyone know we were going to try to reconvene. Some people we trying to go to a nearby park to do so, but the rules are clear the the caucus may only be held in the location printed in the Call to Caucus printed in a newspaper 15 days prior. The ONLY place we could reconvene was at the high school.

I stood on a chair to address the crowd to let them know we were going to reconvene and what we needed to do. At that point I was approached by told I was under arrest.

More to come...

--------------- Update

Okay, I have a minute, and a beer! Here is the saga.

There are three main culprits to today's fiasco. Eugene Dokes - St. Charles County Republican Committee Chairman, Bryan Spencer - Chairman of the Caucus Committee for the St. Charles County GOP (he organized the caucus), and Matt Ehlen - The guy they installed as Chairman and who ended the meeting before conducting any business.

I approached Bryan Spencer several times, prior to the commencement of the caucus, to point out where things that were being planned violated the rules. He said, "We are going to do it this way, challenge it if you want." He is the one that was trying to rig the process to select delegates proportionally based on who was in attendance. They conducted a straw poll as people were checked in, in violation of State GOP rules.

The meeting was supposed to begin at 10:00am. There were so many people still in line that by the time the meeting was ready to start it was just after 11:00am.

Eugene Dokes started the meeting by immediately declaring there would be no video or audio recording allowed, and that if anyone refused to stop, they would be removed by police. The entire room of what has been reported as over 2,500 people began booing and demanding that recording be allowed. It was not just Ron Paul people.

Eugene Dokes then refused to commence the meeting until everyone stopped recording. I made multiple attempts to make a point of order to address the situation, but he refused to acknowledge me. He then left the podium and called the police.

There were St. Peters Police, St. Charles Police, St. Charles County Sheriffs, and Missouri Highway Patrol that eventually came into the gymnasium and through threat of arrest made everyone turn off their cameras. Of course many did not.

Eugene Dokes then started to convene the meeting a second time.

Let me digress a moment. We had prepared very well ahead of time. I won't get into all of the details, but the Mitt Romney people agreed to support me for Chairman. This was an incredible vote of confidence in my ability to chair and to convene a fair process. I had also hire the President of the Missouri Association of Parliamentarians who I intended to appoint for that role. I never got that chance.

Eugene Dokes appointed the Creditials Committee, Rules Committee, and Parliamentarian. These are all appointments made by the elected Chairman, not the temporary Chair which is what Eugene Dokes was acting as. The body loudly booed and started making all kinds of points of order and other declarations of disgust at the blatant disregard for the proper process.

He then opened the floor for nominations. I immediately started nominating myself multiple times. He recognized a woman, who was obviously preselected, who nominated Matt Ehlen. At that point about 2,000 people started chanting my name to be appointed. Eugene Dokes ignored that and called a hasty voice vote and declared the one nominee, Matt Ehlen, as the Chair.

Hundreds of people started calling for Division of the vote. Eugene Dokes ignored them all.

Matt Ehlen took the podium and tried to regain order. After anout 20 seconds he declared that St. Charles County would not send any delegates to the CD and State Conventions. He quickly found motions to adjourn and closed the meeting.

At that point I went to grab the parliamentarian I had hired. She had not been allowed inside, because of an arbitrary rule Bryan Spencer made up, but I had checked in with her by sticking my head through the door of and on earlier. I told her to come with me and I headed to the podium. I asked her how to reconvene and since no business had been conducted according to the Call to Convention, we had every right to reconvene.

I took the microphone and announced that people should not leave and that we would reconvene the meeting. Eugene Dokes came up and unplugged the microphone. At that point the police began ordering people out of the gymnasium.

At that point I went outside to try to reconvene the caucus, according to the rules. A number of people were going to go to another location to reconvene. I had to stop those that had not left and explained that we were required to convene at the location published 15 days prior in the newspaper or it would be invalid.

I then found where the biggest crowd had gathered and began to address the crowd. Everyone got quiet to hear me. There were 300-400 people there. I explained very quickly that we needed to begin collecting a roster, as required, and what that meant. I was immediately approached by 4 or 5 police of unknown jurisdictions who made me step down from the chair and put me into handcuffs.

When I asked what I was being arrested for, or if I was being arrested, I was told they would tell me later. Eventually I was booked for trespassing and released.

The actions of Eugene Doke, Bryan Spencer, and Matt Ehlen were the direct cause of the event getting out of control. They have tried to shift the blame, but it is all on them. If they had conducted the meeting according to Robert's Rules and the proper order of the agenda, none of this would have happened.

---------------- Update #2

I forgot to mention, I am on the St. Charles GOP Central Committee, the one Eugene Dokes is Chairman of, as well as being Chair, Vice-Chair, and Secretary of three different GOP Legislative Committees.

I need to remember to tell the media that. It was so crazy today I just wanted to tell what happened and forgot to mention it.

------------- Update #3

I have been doing interviews pretty much non-stop since this all happened. I have more set up for tomorrow. I even had a reporter come to my front door.

I have not had time to keep up with where they all appear, hopefully I can compile a list tomorrow.

I was really impressed with this one reporter. I will have to go look up his name later and put in here. Anyway, this guy really knew his stuff when it came to caucuses. There were times he would stop to describe for his listeners some complex issue, that I would have been happy to do myself, and the guy would nail it.

There are starting to be some developments concerning the aftermath and path forward. Its all in early stages so I won't get into it until things are more definite.

I have heard that Eugene Dokes is telling people Ron Paul supporters are threatening his family. My advice to Eugene is since I know he knows how to call police, call them on anyone making real threats. My advice to all of you is do not make physical threats. I would also leave his family out of it.



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Absolutely agree. It's

Absolutely agree. It's criminals like these that are exact reasons we are trying to get Ron Paul in there in the first place. Pretty ironic.

"Was that Missouri or Russia"

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Great Job Brent!!!! Thank you

Great Job Brent!!!! Thank you for all you have done from Wis!!! Keep fighting the good fight!!!

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I fail to see how you were trespassing

If you are a Registered Republican then you are a part of the GOP and thier meeting, no different than any of the other registered republican attendees.

If you were trespassing, then so was everyone else there.

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The legal reason behind the charge.

In the eyes of the law, when an event is disbanded by the police, the venue is closed. Loitering then becomes trespassing IF they want to enforce it. In this case, they chose to do so because Brent was attempting to restart the event. Basically they made an example out of him. I'm NOT saying I agree with it, but that's the legal reasoning behind why Brent was arrested. You are correct, if everyone else had not disbursed they most likely would have been charged also.

Expectations...

"I have heard that Eugene Dokes is telling people Ron Paul supporters are threatening his family."

While not condoning threatening behavior, I still have to wonder what Mr. Dokes thought would come about as he raised his battle flag and fired off his Howitzer? Did he think that his fellow citizens would just roll over and allow all nastiness to be perpetrated upon themselves without wanting to fire back at him?

He will now need police protection as who knows what evil lurks in the minds of men...even if it is retaliatory. I am truly dumbfounded by the audacity of these people and I hope they come to now realize that this isn't their sandbox and that some children don't play so nice after they've been kicked in the shins.

Wha? .....hey....who stole my country?

Thank you!

Thank you, Brent, for standing up to a corrupt group of individuals intent on having their way NO MATTER WHAT RULES THEY HAVE TO VIOLATE TO ACCOMPLISH THEIR AIMS.

On a small scale, their unethical and immoral behavior is NO DIFFERENT from the actions of tyrants throughout history -- be they Lenin, Hitler, Stalin, or Mao. In fact, their immoral actions on a small scale LEAD TO SUCH TYRANNY ON A BIG SCALE.

Tyranny = crime to which there is no recourse.

If representatives of the GOP continues such despicable actions, then the GOP will SELF-DESTRUCT and the GOP will DESERVE TO LOSE TO OBAMA!!!

I AM A 3RD GENERATION REPUBLICAN --- BUT I WILL TERMINATE MY MEMBERSHIP IN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IF THIS IMMORAL AND DESPICABLE BEHAVIOR CONTINUES!!!!!!!!!

I Will Keep Asking

I have just one question. Just why didn't anyone confront the Missouri GOP BEFORE the caucus on the banned recording device rule??? It was posted on the GOP site well in advance at http://www.stcharlesgop.com.

Why is everyone avoiding this question??? It's possible that all this mayhem could have been avoided if it was delt with beforehand.

"The Price Of Freedom Is Eternal Vigilance."
Thomas Jefferson

does it matter?

cynthia,
does it matter? the election process should be open and transparent

there is NO legitimate reason to disallow cameras and recording devices!

Ok Cynthia

Let's assume you are correct about the no camera proviso. Of what 'mayhem' do you speak? Do you really think, had the cameras not been present, the GOP leadership would have felt all warm and fuzzy about conducting the meeting in an orderly, respectful (of the rules), manner?

I don't know, but I doubt the railroading by the temporary chair was in response to video cameras. IMHO, it was likely planned from the beginning. Now that's what I call MAYHEM. So it appears that all of the protests from caucus goers, whether verbal or video, succeeded in saving the chicanery to another, more visible, day.

I can't see how they did anything but preserve their self respect. Dr. Paul's only admitted caveat about peaceful civil disobedience is to be prepared to take the consequences of your behavior. Seems like being booked into detention meets that guideline perfectly.

I thought I answered this

They were contacted in advance concerning several issues. I personally pointed out several issues the day of the caucus before it convened.

The answer was always that they were going to do it the way they wanted and if anyone didn't like it they could challenge the caucus later.

No, you didn't really answer

No, you didn't really answer the question. Why wasn't something done (meaning a protest) about this BEFORE the caucus took place if you and others knew about it.

I don't live in Missouri, but I heard nothing on the Daily Paul or the news about their recording device ruling until this Saturday.

Wouldn't it have been better to make it publicly known way before the event? Perhaps, just maybe a little embarrassing media coverage could have helped changed their minds. It would have been better than to disrupt the caucus to a least try to get all the delegates together and openly protest and hound the GOP for weeks inadvance.

"The Price Of Freedom Is Eternal Vigilance."
Thomas Jefferson

OKay, lets make this clear

They had no intention of changing their rules beforehand.

I was out on the floor calling for a Point of Information as soon as the meeting started. The intention was to address the rule before the nomination of Chairman was called for.

The fact that the Temporary Chair refused to acknowledge even the most basic of parliamentary procedures was the cause of the body getting upset.

Again, the answer is you

Again, the answer is you don't seem to understand the process. There was no need to confront them in advance about it, they should have had the opportunity to adopt their own set of rules, and that is exactly why all of this happened, proper procedure wasn't followed.

LOL you think asking them nicely in advance would have made a difference when at the caucus itself a majority of Ron Paul supporters had no power and had the cops including a helicopter called on them, but hey, maybe if they'd asked nicely in advance right?

"asking them nicely in

"asking them nicely in advance" I never said that! Maybe you need to take a lesson from the Occupy Wallstreet Protest.

"The Price Of Freedom Is Eternal Vigilance."
Thomas Jefferson

maybe they could have but I dont think it would

have changed the course of this caucus.
Brent was obviously not detained for using a cam..

The rule says everything about what they planned to do.

I believe people will video record

because people are sick and tired of corruption.

Otherwise, as things degrade, there will be more and more arrests without the tool of capture.

Brent...please contact me ASAP

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I will call you as soon as I can

I am about to go on a radio show right now. I will call you when I'm done.

Brent "Trigger" Stafford. The

Brent "Trigger" Stafford.

The man who lit the fuse of the Revolution of 2012.

You just kicked off a hot summer.

I'm thinking 1968-69?

"threatening his family"

That's right up there with "the ayes have it". Liars lie.

If anyone actually *is* threatening his family, they are not one of us. Throw them in jail IMMEDIATELY.

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protective custody

Or throw Dokes in jail, for his own protection.

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"threatening his family" yeah, right.

Well, in his defense, I heard he received a number of "friendly" emails on his very special way to conduct political meetings.

Now, as to whether those were threats towards his family: that's the problem with liars' brains like Mr. Dokes'; for they can read and report about words that were never uttered or written.

Just like the Fed does with paper money: right out of the Void. Shazam! Anytime!

Anyway, like Brent said, if Mr. Dokes did receive threats, he sure KNOWS how to call the police! And nothing to worry about here in our ranks.

Must be one of his suppliers. Or clients. Or party fellows. Or... well, he sure knows best who.

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The Missouri fiasco

Hi. Im a total novice when it comes to politics and how everything in these events work. Still, though, a couple things seem peculiar to me, and I thought I may point them out in hopes of getting some sort of answer. From what Ive read about what took place in Missouri, it seems as if its borderline criminal. What is really disheartening to me is why Dr. Paul hasn't tried to bring attention to this, or any of the other cases of outright fraud and betrayal by state GOP representatives when it comes to Dr. Paul getting the correct count of the vote. I feel as if Dr. Paul isn't really into this one hundred percent if he isnt fighting to bring all this seemingly corrupt behavior out in the open and exposing these evil people for what they are, liars and frauds. It seems that if there was a clear violation of the established rules, and if there are as many witnesses and as much documentation that has been mentioned, what with all the supporters physically present and also the video to back it up, then it shouldnt be difficult to contest these results and show that the events have been unfair, and the votes incorrectly counted. It seems very simple to me, although, like I said, Im a novice, so I may be missing something. But, if there is so much evidence of clear fraud and wrongdoing on behalf of the state GOP to destroy the Paul campaign, then why isnt Dr. Paul doing anything about it? I almost feel as if its because Dr. Paul doesnt really care about the race, and that he's just in it for whatever reasons, none of them being to win. Don't get me wrong, I believe in what Dr. Paul's campaign stands for, and I also feel as if he is the best man to hold the office of President. I am just at a loss when I try to think of why he isnt fighting instances of fraud and betrayal by members of his own party. Thank you for your time.

You are at a loss for reasons

because you haven't been around this sort of thing long enough to know what all the 100's of potential reasons could be for why RP does and doesn't do. Newcomers to all of this are used to someone else doing everything. One small thing we learn as we go along is that we are the ones who are responsible for making our world go around.

thank you

for your reply. You are right, I am a newcomer, and I did just assume that someone else would handle this. I guess the better reaction to the situation would have been to investigate it further, and then find out what steps can be taken to resolve the issue. I am a newcomer, and ill be the first to say I dont know a thing about how any of this stuff works. If I were in Missouri (Im on the west coast), I think I would begin by lodging complaints to the proper channels, documenting the actual instances of wrong doing, and bringing those to light to the proper authorities. Its very discouraging when the 'establishment' that is supposed to be in charge of the whole thing are the actual ones that are breaking the rules! Who do you go to then, when the people in charge are the people who need to be exposed?

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Ron Paul points out where the problems are

and expects his supporters to mind the details. He said the other day that it didn't seem right that he draws such large crowds yet gets so few votes and that his supporters should check into it because 'I'm busy trying to stop a war in Iran!' Ron Paul is the messenger, it's up to us to implement that message.

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