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This is Brent Stafford from Missouri - Updated #3

This is Brent Stafford. I wanted to let everyone know I am out of jail and am just now starting to read some of the posts about what happened today.

I am actually in my car right now, so I will post more complete details when I get to someplace where I can take more time.

First of all, thank you to everyone who was concerned and calling the police station. Apparently they were getting flooded with calls.

I was trying to reconvene the meeting in the gymnasium, according to the rules, and was told I have the leave the gym along with everyone else or I would be trespassing. I went outside and tried to let everyone know we were going to try to reconvene. Some people we trying to go to a nearby park to do so, but the rules are clear the the caucus may only be held in the location printed in the Call to Caucus printed in a newspaper 15 days prior. The ONLY place we could reconvene was at the high school.

I stood on a chair to address the crowd to let them know we were going to reconvene and what we needed to do. At that point I was approached by told I was under arrest.

More to come...

--------------- Update

Okay, I have a minute, and a beer! Here is the saga.

There are three main culprits to today's fiasco. Eugene Dokes - St. Charles County Republican Committee Chairman, Bryan Spencer - Chairman of the Caucus Committee for the St. Charles County GOP (he organized the caucus), and Matt Ehlen - The guy they installed as Chairman and who ended the meeting before conducting any business.

I approached Bryan Spencer several times, prior to the commencement of the caucus, to point out where things that were being planned violated the rules. He said, "We are going to do it this way, challenge it if you want." He is the one that was trying to rig the process to select delegates proportionally based on who was in attendance. They conducted a straw poll as people were checked in, in violation of State GOP rules.

The meeting was supposed to begin at 10:00am. There were so many people still in line that by the time the meeting was ready to start it was just after 11:00am.

Eugene Dokes started the meeting by immediately declaring there would be no video or audio recording allowed, and that if anyone refused to stop, they would be removed by police. The entire room of what has been reported as over 2,500 people began booing and demanding that recording be allowed. It was not just Ron Paul people.

Eugene Dokes then refused to commence the meeting until everyone stopped recording. I made multiple attempts to make a point of order to address the situation, but he refused to acknowledge me. He then left the podium and called the police.

There were St. Peters Police, St. Charles Police, St. Charles County Sheriffs, and Missouri Highway Patrol that eventually came into the gymnasium and through threat of arrest made everyone turn off their cameras. Of course many did not.

Eugene Dokes then started to convene the meeting a second time.

Let me digress a moment. We had prepared very well ahead of time. I won't get into all of the details, but the Mitt Romney people agreed to support me for Chairman. This was an incredible vote of confidence in my ability to chair and to convene a fair process. I had also hire the President of the Missouri Association of Parliamentarians who I intended to appoint for that role. I never got that chance.

Eugene Dokes appointed the Creditials Committee, Rules Committee, and Parliamentarian. These are all appointments made by the elected Chairman, not the temporary Chair which is what Eugene Dokes was acting as. The body loudly booed and started making all kinds of points of order and other declarations of disgust at the blatant disregard for the proper process.

He then opened the floor for nominations. I immediately started nominating myself multiple times. He recognized a woman, who was obviously preselected, who nominated Matt Ehlen. At that point about 2,000 people started chanting my name to be appointed. Eugene Dokes ignored that and called a hasty voice vote and declared the one nominee, Matt Ehlen, as the Chair.

Hundreds of people started calling for Division of the vote. Eugene Dokes ignored them all.

Matt Ehlen took the podium and tried to regain order. After anout 20 seconds he declared that St. Charles County would not send any delegates to the CD and State Conventions. He quickly found motions to adjourn and closed the meeting.

At that point I went to grab the parliamentarian I had hired. She had not been allowed inside, because of an arbitrary rule Bryan Spencer made up, but I had checked in with her by sticking my head through the door of and on earlier. I told her to come with me and I headed to the podium. I asked her how to reconvene and since no business had been conducted according to the Call to Convention, we had every right to reconvene.

I took the microphone and announced that people should not leave and that we would reconvene the meeting. Eugene Dokes came up and unplugged the microphone. At that point the police began ordering people out of the gymnasium.

At that point I went outside to try to reconvene the caucus, according to the rules. A number of people were going to go to another location to reconvene. I had to stop those that had not left and explained that we were required to convene at the location published 15 days prior in the newspaper or it would be invalid.

I then found where the biggest crowd had gathered and began to address the crowd. Everyone got quiet to hear me. There were 300-400 people there. I explained very quickly that we needed to begin collecting a roster, as required, and what that meant. I was immediately approached by 4 or 5 police of unknown jurisdictions who made me step down from the chair and put me into handcuffs.

When I asked what I was being arrested for, or if I was being arrested, I was told they would tell me later. Eventually I was booked for trespassing and released.

The actions of Eugene Doke, Bryan Spencer, and Matt Ehlen were the direct cause of the event getting out of control. They have tried to shift the blame, but it is all on them. If they had conducted the meeting according to Robert's Rules and the proper order of the agenda, none of this would have happened.

---------------- Update #2

I forgot to mention, I am on the St. Charles GOP Central Committee, the one Eugene Dokes is Chairman of, as well as being Chair, Vice-Chair, and Secretary of three different GOP Legislative Committees.

I need to remember to tell the media that. It was so crazy today I just wanted to tell what happened and forgot to mention it.

------------- Update #3

I have been doing interviews pretty much non-stop since this all happened. I have more set up for tomorrow. I even had a reporter come to my front door.

I have not had time to keep up with where they all appear, hopefully I can compile a list tomorrow.

I was really impressed with this one reporter. I will have to go look up his name later and put in here. Anyway, this guy really knew his stuff when it came to caucuses. There were times he would stop to describe for his listeners some complex issue, that I would have been happy to do myself, and the guy would nail it.

There are starting to be some developments concerning the aftermath and path forward. Its all in early stages so I won't get into it until things are more definite.

I have heard that Eugene Dokes is telling people Ron Paul supporters are threatening his family. My advice to Eugene is since I know he knows how to call police, call them on anyone making real threats. My advice to all of you is do not make physical threats. I would also leave his family out of it.

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I hope it was worth it

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sounds like a congressman too

Mr. Dokes probably will fit in well with most of the so and so's already in congress :)

Michael Nystrom's picture

Holy moly!

I just got home. What happened!?

Here's the man who helped

Here's the man who helped cause the chaos, let's make sure he doesn't get into congress

http://www.dailypaul.com/221366/eugene-dokes-contact-informa...

we're still waiting for details

http://www.dailypaul.com/221338/missouri-caucus-gets-ugly-an...

Some details are in that post and the person arrested (Brent Stafford) was released (apparently, many outraged people also phoned the cop shop where he was being held).

He's posted once promising to post more details when he's got the time.

Some others also have posted video showing his arrest and events which preceded it.

Basically, it looks like some GOP chair decided to overrule everyone not a Santorum supporter and this somewhat displeased our people, Romney people and even some of the Santorum supporters :)

Michael Nystrom's picture

Ok, thank you for the update

I'm reading now.

The Santorum wannabe chair was voted down and he called police

on the duly elected Ron Paul chair and the police said they had to leave and when the duly elected chair tried to complete the meeting he was taken to jail.

At least that is what it sounds like from everything I've read. No slate was elected, and we dominated with Romney, and would have had the biggest share of delegates as I understand it. Where the S people had a majority they just rammed theirs through where they had a plurality if they tried that, our guys and Romney guys either took the slate or proportional. And there were places we won and places Romney won. But it looks pretty good from what I was seeing. This was a huge caucus with lots of delegates, though.

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Check the law in your area... but

The only person that can ask you to leave is the property owner and it has to be done in the presence of an officer, only after your refusal to leave after the property owner asks you to vacate the premises in the presence of the officer is it considered trespassing. An organizer of an event is not the owner of the property!

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Stephen Dupont
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Who

would qualify as the "owner" of a school in this situation?

The taxpayers

The exact person that the police arrested

They had the venue until 1:00 p.m.

Therefore, what Brent was doing was lawful in assembling the quorum back into gymnasium.

This is a

symptom of winning.

Senator Peter Schiff 2016

Amen

“First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.”

Notice that we are at the FIGHT stage now!! Only this stage is left before we win!!

this is war

we're not winning... yet

but we WILL overcome!

Time to get this on Reality Check

Ben Swann here is the story that needs to be told, the Judge might be interested too when he makes his next limited on-air
appearance, oh yeah... Jay Leno this week should be interesting!

"I, __________, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oath_of_enlistment

There is no duration defined in the Oath

Perfect!

This is a perfect story for Ben

Brilliant!

http://www.dailypaul.com/221360/happy-st-patricks-day-to-all...

"I, __________, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oath_of_enlistment

There is no duration defined in the Oath

Video (not a good view of arrest)

I was scrambling for some paper and missed it. I'm in process of uploading some more.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoZnxWJAnlk

edit: at least the audio is decent, sorry about horrible camera skills, first time actually using it.

Great video!

This video compliments the other video of Brent being arrested. Some people are going to be in very big trouble over this. I personally am going to call the St Peters Chamber of Commerce and tell them they have lost my dollars because I do not want to be subjected to an occurance. The Mayor, Police and Chamber need to publically denounce this event and appologize to all parties involved and the GOP caucus leaders fired and the caucus redone under the rules of law this time. If you want to fight back, hit them in the pocketbook and the rest will fall into place.

I thought only the owner of the private property

I thought only the owner of the private property could have someone arrested for trespassing. Does eugene own the property? If not, why in the hell are the cops arresting people?

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and why did they arrest him and not everyone else who was "trespassing"? it seems obvious that it was an abuse of power.

typically arrest would be either/both for disturbance/trespass

The person making that request can be an agent of the landowner and it also can be in the view of the cops, one of whom can be heard saying they responded to a "disturbance" call.

You should note that when someone requests an arrest for trespass the cops typically will effect a "citizen arrest" so as to attempt to remove the taxpayers and themselves from liability. They arrest on the say so of the person making a complaint to them. That makes it an arrest by citizen.

As a general rule, in a decently run cop shop, they wouldn't want to bring their guns into a peaceful political meeting and they never would want to cause the caucus to be cancelled.

So, no way should they have been looking either to disrupt a political causus or to make any arrest(s).

The cops were being stupid.

They've got quite a few questions to answer

From what I have read

they were on the grounds of a school. I'm honestly not sure what the rules of usage are on public property of that type are.

not much if any difference

Only real difference would be a "need" to protect the children and employees, etc of the school.

This was a weekend, and it also was in a place open to the general public at large.

The cops in no way should have barged in, with uniforms and guns, and stopped a scheduled and lawful caucus nor should they have arrested the guy.

They've created a liability for the taxpayers here and the Ron Paul supporters who were prevented from going ahead with the caucus (and all other caucus attendees) have very reasonable grounds to file criminal as well as civil complaints against the cops and the city/county government.

I Tried to Vote You Up Twice...

...but Daily Paul wouldn't let me...DAILY PAUL in charge of vote counts!!!

You make an excellent point

Michael Nystrom and the mods of DP need to consider learning from our GOP opponents and allowing for vote rigging of our own here :)

No worries

my vote pumped up the count by an increment of 10

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I am at the Ron Paul headquarters. I don't have much time at the moment, St. Louis News Channel 5 KSDK will be here any minute to interview me.

Once that interview is over I will come back and give some more updates.

First hand account long report

http://www.facebook.com/notes/joseph-wetter/my-saint-charles...

(I don't know if anyone posted the link yet, but the more spread the better!)

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