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This is Brent Stafford from Missouri - Updated #3

This is Brent Stafford. I wanted to let everyone know I am out of jail and am just now starting to read some of the posts about what happened today.

I am actually in my car right now, so I will post more complete details when I get to someplace where I can take more time.

First of all, thank you to everyone who was concerned and calling the police station. Apparently they were getting flooded with calls.

I was trying to reconvene the meeting in the gymnasium, according to the rules, and was told I have the leave the gym along with everyone else or I would be trespassing. I went outside and tried to let everyone know we were going to try to reconvene. Some people we trying to go to a nearby park to do so, but the rules are clear the the caucus may only be held in the location printed in the Call to Caucus printed in a newspaper 15 days prior. The ONLY place we could reconvene was at the high school.

I stood on a chair to address the crowd to let them know we were going to reconvene and what we needed to do. At that point I was approached by told I was under arrest.

More to come...

--------------- Update

Okay, I have a minute, and a beer! Here is the saga.

There are three main culprits to today's fiasco. Eugene Dokes - St. Charles County Republican Committee Chairman, Bryan Spencer - Chairman of the Caucus Committee for the St. Charles County GOP (he organized the caucus), and Matt Ehlen - The guy they installed as Chairman and who ended the meeting before conducting any business.

I approached Bryan Spencer several times, prior to the commencement of the caucus, to point out where things that were being planned violated the rules. He said, "We are going to do it this way, challenge it if you want." He is the one that was trying to rig the process to select delegates proportionally based on who was in attendance. They conducted a straw poll as people were checked in, in violation of State GOP rules.

The meeting was supposed to begin at 10:00am. There were so many people still in line that by the time the meeting was ready to start it was just after 11:00am.

Eugene Dokes started the meeting by immediately declaring there would be no video or audio recording allowed, and that if anyone refused to stop, they would be removed by police. The entire room of what has been reported as over 2,500 people began booing and demanding that recording be allowed. It was not just Ron Paul people.

Eugene Dokes then refused to commence the meeting until everyone stopped recording. I made multiple attempts to make a point of order to address the situation, but he refused to acknowledge me. He then left the podium and called the police.

There were St. Peters Police, St. Charles Police, St. Charles County Sheriffs, and Missouri Highway Patrol that eventually came into the gymnasium and through threat of arrest made everyone turn off their cameras. Of course many did not.

Eugene Dokes then started to convene the meeting a second time.

Let me digress a moment. We had prepared very well ahead of time. I won't get into all of the details, but the Mitt Romney people agreed to support me for Chairman. This was an incredible vote of confidence in my ability to chair and to convene a fair process. I had also hire the President of the Missouri Association of Parliamentarians who I intended to appoint for that role. I never got that chance.

Eugene Dokes appointed the Creditials Committee, Rules Committee, and Parliamentarian. These are all appointments made by the elected Chairman, not the temporary Chair which is what Eugene Dokes was acting as. The body loudly booed and started making all kinds of points of order and other declarations of disgust at the blatant disregard for the proper process.

He then opened the floor for nominations. I immediately started nominating myself multiple times. He recognized a woman, who was obviously preselected, who nominated Matt Ehlen. At that point about 2,000 people started chanting my name to be appointed. Eugene Dokes ignored that and called a hasty voice vote and declared the one nominee, Matt Ehlen, as the Chair.

Hundreds of people started calling for Division of the vote. Eugene Dokes ignored them all.

Matt Ehlen took the podium and tried to regain order. After anout 20 seconds he declared that St. Charles County would not send any delegates to the CD and State Conventions. He quickly found motions to adjourn and closed the meeting.

At that point I went to grab the parliamentarian I had hired. She had not been allowed inside, because of an arbitrary rule Bryan Spencer made up, but I had checked in with her by sticking my head through the door of and on earlier. I told her to come with me and I headed to the podium. I asked her how to reconvene and since no business had been conducted according to the Call to Convention, we had every right to reconvene.

I took the microphone and announced that people should not leave and that we would reconvene the meeting. Eugene Dokes came up and unplugged the microphone. At that point the police began ordering people out of the gymnasium.

At that point I went outside to try to reconvene the caucus, according to the rules. A number of people were going to go to another location to reconvene. I had to stop those that had not left and explained that we were required to convene at the location published 15 days prior in the newspaper or it would be invalid.

I then found where the biggest crowd had gathered and began to address the crowd. Everyone got quiet to hear me. There were 300-400 people there. I explained very quickly that we needed to begin collecting a roster, as required, and what that meant. I was immediately approached by 4 or 5 police of unknown jurisdictions who made me step down from the chair and put me into handcuffs.

When I asked what I was being arrested for, or if I was being arrested, I was told they would tell me later. Eventually I was booked for trespassing and released.

The actions of Eugene Doke, Bryan Spencer, and Matt Ehlen were the direct cause of the event getting out of control. They have tried to shift the blame, but it is all on them. If they had conducted the meeting according to Robert's Rules and the proper order of the agenda, none of this would have happened.

---------------- Update #2

I forgot to mention, I am on the St. Charles GOP Central Committee, the one Eugene Dokes is Chairman of, as well as being Chair, Vice-Chair, and Secretary of three different GOP Legislative Committees.

I need to remember to tell the media that. It was so crazy today I just wanted to tell what happened and forgot to mention it.

------------- Update #3

I have been doing interviews pretty much non-stop since this all happened. I have more set up for tomorrow. I even had a reporter come to my front door.

I have not had time to keep up with where they all appear, hopefully I can compile a list tomorrow.

I was really impressed with this one reporter. I will have to go look up his name later and put in here. Anyway, this guy really knew his stuff when it came to caucuses. There were times he would stop to describe for his listeners some complex issue, that I would have been happy to do myself, and the guy would nail it.

There are starting to be some developments concerning the aftermath and path forward. Its all in early stages so I won't get into it until things are more definite.

I have heard that Eugene Dokes is telling people Ron Paul supporters are threatening his family. My advice to Eugene is since I know he knows how to call police, call them on anyone making real threats. My advice to all of you is do not make physical threats. I would also leave his family out of it.

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Can you cut and paste here

Can you cut and paste here for those of us who can't stand Facebook. It's asking me to log in. I deleted my Facebook account years ago.

Well, I don't know if the owner allows it

I'll just paste it here, if someone has a problem with it, I'll take it down :)
Taken from http://www.facebook.com/notes/joseph-wetter/my-saint-charles...
for people who does not have Facebook, simply comment if you want me to remove this ^_^

I shall first start off this report by saying that Bryan Spencer, the Saint Charles County Repulican Party Central Committe man who was tasked to organize the caucus told my fellow Ron Paul Coordinator here in Saint Charles at the last Saint Charles County Central Committe meeting, that 'if the Ron Paul people come in and hijack the caucus, I will do everything in my power to throw out the entire delegation on a technicallity.'

This is exactly what happened, but first, let me clarify what Spencer means by 'hijack'. There are no rules going into the caucus, aside from Robert's Rules of Order. At the caucus, the temporary chairman opens the meeting with the Pledge of Allegiance and a prayer. Next, the temporary chairman opens the floor for nominations for a permanent chair in which the entire body of voters votes for. The newly elected chairman opens the floor to nominate a secretary. Then the chairman appoints a parlamentarian, the rules committe, and the credentials committee. The rules are voted on and then the body selects delegates to go to the Congressional District Convention and the State Convention.

So, the key is to organize your suppporters into 'slates', which are lists of names of the supporters who wish to be delegates. Ideally, you want to have your slates full, this way, all delegates that go to the conventions will be your candidate's delgates. It is the process of a democratic republic. Organization is the key going into the caucus, and we had came prepared with the only complete slate of delegates. The Romney camp and Santorum camp had incomplete slates. We could have potentially have walked away with all of the 147 of the delegates.

So this is what Spencer means by 'hijack'. There is no rule against having your stuff together and taking all of the delegates. It is the name of the game. We knew the GOP rules going in, and intended to follow them. We know that Spencer was encouraging the Santorum Coordinator to take all of the delegates if she had the numbers, so, it seems that he is okay with his guy getting the delegates, but not ours.

So, when we checked into the caucus, we were asked to vote in a straw poll for the candidate of our choice. Bryan Spencer's claimed intent on this was to proportion the delegates by the votes from the straw poll, but I believe different. I believe that the GOP had a plan in case the Ron Paul supporters showed up with good numbers, and throwing out the delegation was it.

When it comes to a caucus, the body chooses the rules, not the GOP central committee. Before the temporary chairman (Eugene Dokes) opened the meeting, a set of rules was not proposed, but was made binding. One of the rules included was the ban on recording devices. I believe this 'rule' was put in for the reason of raising a ruckus. When that rule was read, it was very clear that everyone, not just Paul supporters, in that room opposed the rule. Boos ensued as well as Bryce Steinhoff, myself, Brent Stafford, and countless others tried making motions to overturn that rule and to put it up for a vote. Eugene ignored the motions, shouts of 'point of order', etc.

After around 20 minutes of deadlock and an eventual submission of the camera owner to turn it off, he opened the meeting by appointing a parlimentarian, appointing the credentials committee, and the rules committee, which are all appointments made by the PERMANENT chair whose has been elected by the body, not the temporary chair. He completly went around Robert's Rules of Order. This is why the GOP did not want the process recorded. Again, they completly ignored parlimentary rule to usher in their chairman.

Next, Dokes opened the floor for nominations for the permanent chair, in complete opposite order than Robert's Rule of Order states. At this time, the whole gynasium errupted in the call for Brent Stafford to be nominated, which Dokes ignored. Dokes then made his own nomination for chair and then called for a voice vote. The entire gymnasium erupted again with the call for 'division', which is the term that calls for a standing or ballot vote, which was utimately ignored by Dokes. Dokes's voice vote result was that the "I's'' have it, which was clearly not the case. Dokes then motioned to close nominations, called for a voice vote, and nominations were closed without any recognition of motions from the floor. Then the new 'permanent chair' made a motion to adjourn the meeting, swung his gavel, and it was over.

No delegates were awarded.

Next, we tried to amass the people outside in the parking lot to have our own stump caucus to pick the delegates for the conventions. But the Saint Peters Police came over and arrested Brent Stafford for ''tresspassing", as well as Kenny Suitter, the man with the camera.

I go back to what Bryan Spencer said to Bryce at the Central Committee meeting: 'If the Ron Paul people try to 'hijack' the caucus, I will do everthing in my power to throw out the entire delegation.

'Did Ron Paul have a majority in the room according to the straw poll at the door? Did the vote counters see this and feared the Ron Paul campaign would be able to elect their chair and walk away with all of the delegates? Did the sight of the Ron Paul Coordinators and the Romney Coordinators brokering a deal worry them that Santorum would not get any delegates?

I know for sure a few people on the Saint Charles GOP Cnetral Committee are Santorum supporters.

The news media is focusing on the guy with the camera who was arrested, but I can assure you that there was more behind this caucus than is being reported.

This is plain corruption.

Joe Wetter

Saint Charles County Coordinator

Ron Paul 2012

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I know the author of this

I know the author of this account, and he would be pleased that it is posted here. He'd just smile and say, "Good, its all true. Publish it far and wide."
I was there, and is all true.

This is an excellent first

hand account. It is well written, concise, and non-combative. I encourage everyone to spread it.


Looking forward to your further report. THANK YOU for standing up for truth and justice...typing this brings tears to my eyes.

He deleted his account...

He was deleting posts *almost* as fast as they were coming in. He finally got tired I guess and deleted his whole page.

The two most important days in your life are the day you are born...and the day you find out why. -Mark Twain

The link I posted above still works

Comments are no longer allowed and he has turned off the ability to send him a message. Apparently, he got the message.

Looking at his profile page, there are photos of him with Santorum and the Huckster...


bizarre that a man with a microphone can call upon civil servants to unlawfully arrest somebody.

the police, it seems, are always looking to take direction from some sort of chain of command. even if he merely holds a micrphone in a suit, that must have been enough.

consider consulting a layer about false arrest.

i saw it with my own eyes in college. there was a brief scuffle between two drunk kids, and when the police went to apprehend one of them, the entire racous crowd yelled that they were arresting the wrong guy.

out of social order, the police ended up arrested the other guy, just because they were told to by bystandards.

in this situation, st charles police just went with whatever the most authoritive figure told them to do.

it's like they're just political pawns operating on nazi tesselations...

Glad you are free again.

Glad you are free again. Please be careful and you have my respect.

Every time I see an adult on a bicycle, I no longer despair for the future of the human race. -H. G. Wells


Congrats, you just became an American hero! Do us all proud and speak clearly and articulately about Dr. Paul's message.

I can't believe it!

I just saw the video and I can't believe that they did that to you! Why did they arrest you? You were on public property, property you pay taxes on. They can't police a school and say who can stand there and who can't! Who are the police working for? Who paid them to do this? I am sick at my stomach after coming home from the Warren County caucus which was steamrolled over us without regard for Robert's Rules of Law and even basic Constitutional rights. Please know that we are with you all the way....let us know what we can do to help. God Bless you for standing true to Freedom and Liberty!

You're a star, Brent!

I am going to copy this to RonPaulForums and we'd love an update too, when you get a chance. We have people from your caucus there, too.

here's the link: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?367646-Post-on-DP-from-Brent-the-awesome-St-Charles-Caucus-Chair-(duly-elected)&p=4288728#post4288728

Integrity means having to say things that people don't want to hear & especially to say things that the regime doesnt want to hear -RonPaul

Some luv,lol

Eugene Dokes
606 Davidson Ct.
St. Peters, MO 63376

Don't make us look bad!! WE have the upper hand and video imho

don't give him 'bad behavior of Paul supporters' to use to try to sway public opinion. They are already trying to put it out in the stories that it is 'those rowdy Paul supporters' not blatantly ignoring the rules and the duly elected chair by the Santorum folks who wanted to ramrod a slate through as they had been doing at caucuses earlier this week.

Integrity means having to say things that people don't want to hear & especially to say things that the regime doesnt want to hear -RonPaul


Do you see him acting rowdy?? The people in St Peters have the right to know why the police that they PAY FOR are arresting innocent people. You can't arrest someone for being in a school parking lot that you pay the taxes for. Do I ever want to shop or visit St Peters now? Heck NO! Will they arrest me for standing in a park? Attending a school event or festival? They can NOT do this to law abiding citizens. The GOP does NOT own that school nor do they own that schools parking lot...they do NOT pay for the police that arrested Brent! This is the worst violation of a police state that I can actually say it could have been me instead of Brent. They had police at my small county caucus today telling us to shut off our phones and even that I couldn't use the restroom during the caucus! They looked at us like we were terrorists! These cops are morons and I'll be damned if anyone will tell me I can't use a restroom and come back into a meeting. If we don't stand and say enough is enough today, this minute then the next time it will be worse.

Thank you Brent

Reminds me of Patrick Henry taking a stand for the Republic.

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Proud of you Brent

We've got your back. If there is any way you can record what happened to you and get on Youtube ASAP that would be great.

Brent, you are an example and

Brent, you are an example and an inspiration to all of us. The fallout from events like your caucus are going to shake the foundations of U.S. politics, perhaps eclipsing the presidential election and pointing out how truly corrupt our system of government has become. Keep fighting!

“Wasting a vote is sometimes voting for somebody that you don't really believe in."
-Ron Paul

lets give some love

to Eugene Dokes. He caused this situation in the first place. Anybody able to find some contact information for this fellow? I saw his twitter account name somewhere, but a phone number would be nice

MO GOP is Corrupt

MO GOP: (573) 636-3146.

St. Charles Co. Sheriff: 636.949.0809

Thanks for the post Brent

and the effort and sacrifice you put in today. I hope there is some way you can get this caucus reconvened. It seems like Dr. Paul had a good shot at a nice chunk of delegates and we are going to need them desperately at the district and state conventions.

Unprecident respect for you Sir

Thank you for all you have done and all I know you will continue to do.

I'm so glad Brent's out!

The GOP is really going to take a hit on this one given all the FB comments of the people there who are publicly stating their experience.

Apparently the cameraman was arrested, too. Hope no one forgot about him.

"If you want something you've never had before, you have to do something you've never done before." Debra Medina

Brent Stafford for US Congress!!!

and GOP committeeman! Let's sweep out the corruption at every level, PLEASE!

thanks for trying

that sucks!
i guess in a police state we're gunna need more patriots in the police force

I think this Title post will stick in my head forever....

God Bless you Brent! Keep on Rockin' in the Free World.

NO MORE LIES. Ron Paul 2012.

I am glad you are out Mr.

I am glad you are out Mr. Stafford. We need to spread the word of what happened. Everyone here is keen on freedom.

We support you!!!

Knowledge is the currency of the Universe.-
Giorgio A. Tsoukalos

God Bless You

Seriously, my dad called. He was fuming. Good to know you were still thinking about Robert's Rules of Order. :D

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May the LORD make His face shed light upon you and be gracious unto you
May the LORD lift up His face unto you and give you peace
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