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This is Brent Stafford from Missouri - Updated #3

This is Brent Stafford. I wanted to let everyone know I am out of jail and am just now starting to read some of the posts about what happened today.

I am actually in my car right now, so I will post more complete details when I get to someplace where I can take more time.

First of all, thank you to everyone who was concerned and calling the police station. Apparently they were getting flooded with calls.

I was trying to reconvene the meeting in the gymnasium, according to the rules, and was told I have the leave the gym along with everyone else or I would be trespassing. I went outside and tried to let everyone know we were going to try to reconvene. Some people we trying to go to a nearby park to do so, but the rules are clear the the caucus may only be held in the location printed in the Call to Caucus printed in a newspaper 15 days prior. The ONLY place we could reconvene was at the high school.

I stood on a chair to address the crowd to let them know we were going to reconvene and what we needed to do. At that point I was approached by told I was under arrest.

More to come...

--------------- Update

Okay, I have a minute, and a beer! Here is the saga.

There are three main culprits to today's fiasco. Eugene Dokes - St. Charles County Republican Committee Chairman, Bryan Spencer - Chairman of the Caucus Committee for the St. Charles County GOP (he organized the caucus), and Matt Ehlen - The guy they installed as Chairman and who ended the meeting before conducting any business.

I approached Bryan Spencer several times, prior to the commencement of the caucus, to point out where things that were being planned violated the rules. He said, "We are going to do it this way, challenge it if you want." He is the one that was trying to rig the process to select delegates proportionally based on who was in attendance. They conducted a straw poll as people were checked in, in violation of State GOP rules.

The meeting was supposed to begin at 10:00am. There were so many people still in line that by the time the meeting was ready to start it was just after 11:00am.

Eugene Dokes started the meeting by immediately declaring there would be no video or audio recording allowed, and that if anyone refused to stop, they would be removed by police. The entire room of what has been reported as over 2,500 people began booing and demanding that recording be allowed. It was not just Ron Paul people.

Eugene Dokes then refused to commence the meeting until everyone stopped recording. I made multiple attempts to make a point of order to address the situation, but he refused to acknowledge me. He then left the podium and called the police.

There were St. Peters Police, St. Charles Police, St. Charles County Sheriffs, and Missouri Highway Patrol that eventually came into the gymnasium and through threat of arrest made everyone turn off their cameras. Of course many did not.

Eugene Dokes then started to convene the meeting a second time.

Let me digress a moment. We had prepared very well ahead of time. I won't get into all of the details, but the Mitt Romney people agreed to support me for Chairman. This was an incredible vote of confidence in my ability to chair and to convene a fair process. I had also hire the President of the Missouri Association of Parliamentarians who I intended to appoint for that role. I never got that chance.

Eugene Dokes appointed the Creditials Committee, Rules Committee, and Parliamentarian. These are all appointments made by the elected Chairman, not the temporary Chair which is what Eugene Dokes was acting as. The body loudly booed and started making all kinds of points of order and other declarations of disgust at the blatant disregard for the proper process.

He then opened the floor for nominations. I immediately started nominating myself multiple times. He recognized a woman, who was obviously preselected, who nominated Matt Ehlen. At that point about 2,000 people started chanting my name to be appointed. Eugene Dokes ignored that and called a hasty voice vote and declared the one nominee, Matt Ehlen, as the Chair.

Hundreds of people started calling for Division of the vote. Eugene Dokes ignored them all.

Matt Ehlen took the podium and tried to regain order. After anout 20 seconds he declared that St. Charles County would not send any delegates to the CD and State Conventions. He quickly found motions to adjourn and closed the meeting.

At that point I went to grab the parliamentarian I had hired. She had not been allowed inside, because of an arbitrary rule Bryan Spencer made up, but I had checked in with her by sticking my head through the door of and on earlier. I told her to come with me and I headed to the podium. I asked her how to reconvene and since no business had been conducted according to the Call to Convention, we had every right to reconvene.

I took the microphone and announced that people should not leave and that we would reconvene the meeting. Eugene Dokes came up and unplugged the microphone. At that point the police began ordering people out of the gymnasium.

At that point I went outside to try to reconvene the caucus, according to the rules. A number of people were going to go to another location to reconvene. I had to stop those that had not left and explained that we were required to convene at the location published 15 days prior in the newspaper or it would be invalid.

I then found where the biggest crowd had gathered and began to address the crowd. Everyone got quiet to hear me. There were 300-400 people there. I explained very quickly that we needed to begin collecting a roster, as required, and what that meant. I was immediately approached by 4 or 5 police of unknown jurisdictions who made me step down from the chair and put me into handcuffs.

When I asked what I was being arrested for, or if I was being arrested, I was told they would tell me later. Eventually I was booked for trespassing and released.

The actions of Eugene Doke, Bryan Spencer, and Matt Ehlen were the direct cause of the event getting out of control. They have tried to shift the blame, but it is all on them. If they had conducted the meeting according to Robert's Rules and the proper order of the agenda, none of this would have happened.

---------------- Update #2

I forgot to mention, I am on the St. Charles GOP Central Committee, the one Eugene Dokes is Chairman of, as well as being Chair, Vice-Chair, and Secretary of three different GOP Legislative Committees.

I need to remember to tell the media that. It was so crazy today I just wanted to tell what happened and forgot to mention it.

------------- Update #3

I have been doing interviews pretty much non-stop since this all happened. I have more set up for tomorrow. I even had a reporter come to my front door.

I have not had time to keep up with where they all appear, hopefully I can compile a list tomorrow.

I was really impressed with this one reporter. I will have to go look up his name later and put in here. Anyway, this guy really knew his stuff when it came to caucuses. There were times he would stop to describe for his listeners some complex issue, that I would have been happy to do myself, and the guy would nail it.

There are starting to be some developments concerning the aftermath and path forward. Its all in early stages so I won't get into it until things are more definite.

I have heard that Eugene Dokes is telling people Ron Paul supporters are threatening his family. My advice to Eugene is since I know he knows how to call police, call them on anyone making real threats. My advice to all of you is do not make physical threats. I would also leave his family out of it.



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The Hatch Act

Doesn't the police behavior violate the Hatch Act? They interfered with the election process. And I saw the video and I think trespassing charges are pushing it. I also think this was an unlawful arrest. I really thought the supporters were very well behaved! Kudos to all of you! Brent Stafford you handled it like a hero! I am very impressed with what I have seen. This is an eye opener for the country. I hope everyone who interfered with the voting process is held accountable so that this kind of behavior is not repeated.

Charity

~Freedom needs to be guarded vigilantly~

If we had a working justice system...

Clearly illegal acts, the police officers involved should be charged with false arrest and face both criminal and civil proceedings.

Unfortunately it's going to be a hard fight. It's a catch-22. In a fair system we would win, but it isnt a fair system. And we have to win first, before we can change it.

you are my hero. please check

you are my hero. please check back with any more updates. I'm going to bookmark this

A Little Less Talk and A LOT MORE ACTION!!

A LOT MORE ACTION!!!
They rely on the Fact that Your Not WILLING to take matters into your own hands.

It seems that the arresting officers were complicit

When you asked what you were being arrested for, it was their duty to inform you AT THAT TIME, and not put you off by telling you that you would be told later. Check with your state statutes for procedural specifics, but I'm sure they can't arrest ANYONE without citing the cause. If you had been told it was for "trespassing", I'm sure you would have had others willingly join you.

In all probability, these cops were playing as fast and loose with the law they are sworn to uphold, as Dokes, Spencer, and Ehlen were playing against the state GOP rules, in front of God and everybody.

Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have the exact measure of the injustice and wrong which will be imposed on them. - Frederick Douglass

The policemen were hired by the rules violators

An ABC news blog cited much from a "Tom Kipers, a former chairman of the St. Charles GOP, who attended the caucus at Francis Howell North High School."

"An off-duty police officer, hired as security, eventually filed a trespassing complaint against the Paul supporters and notified on-duty police in the area municipality of St. Peters, who, along with police from other jurisdictions, arrested two Paul supporters and ended the caucuses early. A joint-jurisdictional police helicopter arrived on the scene. Kipers said about 10 officers arrived in total."...

“Did I expect this to happen? Kind of,” Kipers said of Saturday’s episode. “That’s why we hired … policemen.”

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/03/police-interven...

Hey Kipers, it's not hard to expect a scenario like this when you helped orchestrate it, and then preselected to hire whoever would help you get'er done! The telling part was where it says, "An off-duty police officer, hired as security, eventually filed a trespassing complaint." This hireling "EVENTUALLY FILED" what he wouldn't tell Brent at the time of his arrest. The rules of arrest are the same whether he's working for hire or in his official capacity.

Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have the exact measure of the injustice and wrong which will be imposed on them. - Frederick Douglass

Obsolete

Brent was determined to be "obsolete" by the communist state. They can't just say stuff like that in public because people aren't prepared to openly accept communism... just yet.

This kind of behavior is

This kind of behavior is going on across the board. In my little convention, there were not so many Paul supporters but I organized us at a meeting befor the convention so we could go in and know the rules and who to vote for. Our county GOP had a preprinted ballot with all santorum supporters and when we tried to push for an open ballot we were called out at infiltrators and democrats and then we all were forced to show an Id which was against the rules because they are suppose to notify ahead of time to show proper Id . The whole thing was a hot mess. How can they treat people this way? Do they not realize that we are the future of the party? If this goes on they will lose. The GOP is literally dismantling itself. After this election...I am done with the GOP.

Same here

I'm done with the GOP after this... Ron Paul is the duck tape holding them together right now

which county and how did it play out?

...dotn get discouraged many positive reports all over the country where RP Supporters take over peacefully

I can't say which county on

I can't say which county on public forum. I had an open thread here about my experience but someone from an outside forum coppied and posted my experience and posted personal information about me. I have become a target. I since have dropped out of the delegate wars per my husbands request. We own a small business in town and my husband (whom isn't involved in politics) heard the chatter around town and felt it would be wise to pull out before it gets messier.

This is the wars of the delegates. It will get messy.

I deleted most of my posts on our forum because "they" are getting a lot of information here. We need to be careful what we post.

My entire slate only walked away as alternates. The santorum crowd was pretty overwhelming but we did succeed in shaking things up.

It's an important, although

It's an important, although unfortunate, lesson to learn on the internet. There are trolls abound with malice intent. That's why people volunteering their personal information on websites like AE is just asking for trouble.

thank you

and please keep pushing his cause in other venues and channels where you can make a difference.

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I call BS

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"The world is a dynamic mess of jiggling things, if you look at it right." - Richard Feynman

Forgive me for asking but why

Forgive me for asking but why are you calling bs?

History doesn't repeat, but it rhymes...

"The Tennis Court Oath was a pivotal event during the first days of the French Revolution. The Oath was a pledge signed by 576 of the 577 members from the Third Estate who were locked out of a meeting of the Estates-General on 20 June 1789. They made a makeshift conference room inside a tennis court located in the Saint-Louis district of Versailles, near the Palace of Versailles."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tennis_Court_Oath

"Alas! I believe in the virtue of birds. And it only takes a feather for me to die laughing."

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There were St. Peters Police, St. Charles Police, St. Charles County Sheriffs, and Missouri Highway Patrol...

Really? That's the best use of law enforcement...wow.

The law cannot make a wicked person virtuous…God’s grace alone can accomplish such a thing.
Ron Paul - The Revolution

Setting a good example is a far better way to spread ideals than through force of arms. Ron Paul

We are definitely on our way to a REVOLUTION...

This will get very ugly at first, this is how it starts...lets keep our head in the game!

Eugene's Facebook page gone dark?

It appears that Mr. Dokes Facebook page has either been removed, or the picture and the security has been changed so that he cant be recognized and requires approval. I have sent the man a few Twitter posts w/ links to his "closed" meeting: "@EugeneDokes just so I'm clear, is your platform, Agree with me or be arrested? @RNC @ReincePriebus", "@EugeneDokes I'm sure the Navy is proud of how you handled those civilians. Who is running against you so I can make a donation?" and finally, "@EugeneDokes All you're doing (besides being an ass), is handing 2012 to Obama: http://youtu.be/cogkHLVqM8Q via @youtube Good luck getting elected!" It may not help much, but it sure made me feel better!

Great Job! It Almost Worked - My Suggestion

Here's my only suggestion: next time, go introduce yourself to the police department in advance. (Now that we know how bad it can get; I hope there's no need for a bullet-proof vest.)

Make sure they know who you are, why you're introducing yourself (to prevent what happened this time), and that you are a level-headed guy playing by the rules, but you don't want the manipulators to try and use the police for their own power-grabs.

Then, hopefully, when they are called, you can prevent them making this mistake.

I am appalled at these events. It reminds me of the movie "Strictly Ballroom," but not as funny.

What do you think? http://consequeries.com/

Sort of like

Stewart Rhodes of Oathkeepers and Sherif Mack talking to law enforcement and trying to prepare their minds for possible future events. In this case, the situation isn't as extreme, but the principle used to communicate with them or prepare them on how to handle future events may be similar.

Share this everywhere

We are the media these days - so copy and share this everywhere. If you use Facebook - post it everywhere. In addition, post it media places that might take it up - ie Ben Swann.......

digusting stuff going on

What now?

What is going to happen now? I was thinking that what happened may be a delaying tactic to try to get more Santorum supporters together...or get a proportional slate of delegates automatically selected.

I hope y'all are ready to fight! The meeting should be reconvened with only the original participants (is the list even available?). Eugene Dokes should be tarred and feathered. Nothing else will suffice.

Arrest

God bless you Brent; wow! As soon as the video came out yesterday it was being posted all over the place here in Maine- I took it to many sites and it wasn't long before the "net was abuzz- all kinds of questions as it was happening. What a rogue GOP mess! The very thing we all are trying so hard to prevent from happening to innocent Americans- in our support for Ron Paul- actually happens to you...the arrest of an innocent person. Were you read your rights? Unbelieveable. I am sure you were aware of possible and probable "shenanigans" when you prepared for that political event yesterday but I am equally sure you didn't expect an illegal shut down or incarceration at the end of it. People immediately started praying for you as soon as it was posted and it looks like the police got plenty of calls. Many are very interested in what happened although they do not post here. Yours is a name many will not long forget. Thank you for the work you do. We are all united across these United States. I give you my Liberty Salute and may God bless you and all of us in this work for freedom and Ron Paul. Thank you for standing up and being a leader. Now I shall post a note to the cameraman-thanking him! You have my utmost respect! from Maine-

Nlaw

I cant say how the legal

I cant say how the legal system works in Missouri but if it's anything like TX and you were released without having to post bond I would assume based on the details you provided that the judge dismissed your case for lack of PC. Even when I make "honest" arrests there are many occasions where the case is dismissed due to a liberal judge not finding all if his criteria met in the arrest record. This, however, does not mean the DA's office won't file the charge at a later date. In you case I would say there was NO PC for an arrest. You need to request a copy of the judges PC ruling from the county through the opened records act. No action will be taken automatically as this happens all the time without consequence. As a previous poster mentioned, in order to file criminal trespass against someone on public property a person in care, custody, and control of said property has to request that charges be filed after you have been warned to leave and given reasonable time to do so. Law Enforcement cannot file Criminal Tresspass without a complainant.

I'm sure you have the situation under control. Just wanted to give my opinion. Keep up the good work
RP 2012

Law and liberty cannot rationally become the objects of our love, unless they first become the objects of our knowledge.

James Wilson

I was released without bond

I was released without bond, but I do have a citation and a court date.

I would prefer not to say much more than that about the situation.

At least not in print, online.

You are a true patriot. These

You are a true patriot. These incidents will someday define this revolution.

Law and liberty cannot rationally become the objects of our love, unless they first become the objects of our knowledge.

James Wilson

Bullies and Psychopaths

There are so many things wrong with this meeting. They didn't want videos because the videos would be evidence of what they fully intended to do which was take over the meeting and deny people their rights. To get around this obvious conspiracy to defraud people of their rights is have everyone who was present create an affidavit which is admissible in court. Convene a Grand Jury to explore the possibility of fraud, conspiracy to commit fraud, false arrest, voter intimidation, etc., etc. and etc.

America is in this mess because of unchallenged bullies and psychopaths. There are laws against bullying and psychopaths are usually locked away to protect the rest of us. We've become so accustomed (brainwashed) to letting the "authorities" handle everything we forgot who and what we are - the ultimate authority in this country - else why vote???

Code words for fraud..

No Cameras and Keep the Vote Secret (until the central committee gets the numbers and changes them).

Forgot to say that you're on the Central Committee, etc.?

No one blames you for that.
And besides, if YOU hadn't, the MSM would certainly have forgotten it for you.

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