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Noam Chomsky 2b Interviewed 2nite about Ron Paul and the Libertarian Movement

Check it out, My Marine Corps Buddy got to interview Noam Chomsky about Ron Paul, and from what he told me it's 8-10 minutes on Ron Paul, very interesting.

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would have liked to have heard this

does anyone have a link to recording?

I am a libertarian socialist. Love me Noam

But I love Rons view of liberty.

Is there a replay of this?

I'd definitely be interested in hearing it.

Chomsky is simply mistaken about libertarianism

But he has shown much light on the way the media and TBTB manipulate the masses. Much of his work along those lines is simply brilliant, and for that we should be grateful.

Leges sine moribus vanae

Yep.

Seen a video years ago and he was showing the amount of time spent in the media on certain issues like Israel, etc, after 911. Was very good and sure had to wake some sheeple up.

"Libertarian Movement"??

There is a "Libertarian Movement" going on?

Where?

"Libertarian Movement" is an oxymoron.

Unless by "Libertarian Movement" you mean movement in the same sense that "arching about a point" is movement.

Glad you linked Noam Chomsky with your post so it is exceedingly clear where you are coming from.

P

S

"You are a den of vipers and thieves."

I mean to rout you out!

-Just because you are among us, does not make you with us

-The door is wide open, anything can slither in

Chomsky = Fraud and Hypocrisy

Non Stop hate freedom, hate constitution, hate whitey, hate patriotism, hate Christianity, hate Western civilization venom from this senile snake overflowing with venomous hate.

I once asked him why does he live in 97% White neighborhood if he jabbers so much about diversity?

Why is his wife white? He stared at me as if he will eat my liver.

When I pressed again, he was rudely dismissive and said he does not answer "private" questions.

So socialism is okay for this fraudster Chomsky so long as others foot the bills and go to the gulag.

He will just fart and pontificate to others what he never practices at home.

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You absolutly have NO CLUE

what you are talking about.

Noam Chomsky = Rabid Racist

During Day, Chomsky preaches multi-racial, multi-cultural diversity to young christian White kids.

But at night Chomsky crawls in his 97% White neighborhood, with his "chosen people" White wife, and white children.

Racist hypocrisy, isnt it? Too hard to mentally grasp? Should I slow it down more?

TimC, you worship a rabid racist, a liar, fraudster, crook. What does that make you? A morally bankrupt rabid r.....

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Chomsky is just another of many anti-Liberty Pied Pipers

that gets great PR from both the same old, long time and very well heeled anti-Liberty forces and useful dupe morons.

We don't need no stinking Leaders.

This POS opinion carries no more weight than any other human on the planet no matter how much insider money is spent to promote him nor how many fools he dupes.

People that understand LIBERTY and demand their LIBERTY back could give a flying F what this turd blossom has to say.

That is the beauty of LIBERTY each may make of their LIBERTY what they INDIVIDUALLY wish and it does not require "Intellectuals" or Professional Kibitzers for Individuals to achieve a state of LIBERTY or to maintain a state of LIBERTY.

You can take Chomsky and "LIBERTARIAN MOVEMENTS" and stick'em both up the Hershey Highway.

"You are a den of vipers and thieves."

I mean to rout you out!

-Just because you are among us, does not make you with us

-The door is wide open, anything can slither in

Politics makes for

strange bedfellows. While nicely explained in a comment below, I've just always considered "libertarian-socialism" a contradiction in terms. I have mixed emotions about Chomsky. While I haven't read very much of his, and even that not for a long time, two things stand out in my mind from "Understanding Power." I appreciated his honesty re the bias against Ph.D. candidates depending on what their research would likely show; also his comments about the role of spectator sports in America. Among other functions he says they serve in society, "...it occupies the population, and keeps them from trying to get involved with things that really matter... [also] they're a great way to build up chauvinism - you start by developing these totally irrational loyalties early in life, and they translate very nicely to other areas..." Yes, like irrational loyalty to a political party.

When we try to pick out anything by itself, we find it hitched to everything else in the Universe.
~ John Muir

All I know...

Is I'd really like to see Noam Chomsky sit down for tea with Mr. Blue Republican - Robin Koerner.

And I think a panel with those two plus Judge Nap, Naomi Wolf, Ralph Nader and Gerald Celente would make for my kind of entertainment - topic of discussion being the end of the left/right paradigm....

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Zak you recently stated that I did not know

you.

I am getting to know you better and better by each post and comment and with each I like less and less what I see.

What is with the publicist routine?

What is with foisting "LEADERS" on us.

I hope it is just that you are a naive fool because if it is knowing then we got a huge problem.

"You are a den of vipers and thieves."

I mean to rout you out!

-Just because you are among us, does not make you with us

-The door is wide open, anything can slither in

Remember, Chomsky is the guy who said,...

"911 was a long time ago" or words to that effect.

Most leftist who follow

Most leftist who follow Chomsky actualy are for Workers' self-management.Theory of this concept
has been developed by Edvard Kardelj.It has been
total failure.Teoreticaly has been debunked by: "Critical analysys of political sistem of Workers self-management" in 1986.

I appreciate that you are pointing out that crap "theories" are

crap theories Bobdok but better to point out that any theories about "organizing/managing" uniquely individual humans are anti-Liberty scams put forth by rulers/would be rulers.

The only thing each and every human on the planet needs is their total LIBERTY and then the activity that results will allow each to better inform themselves how best to achieve what each desires to achieve.

"You are a den of vipers and thieves."

I mean to rout you out!

-Just because you are among us, does not make you with us

-The door is wide open, anything can slither in

Authors?

For this debunking?

Yugoslavia was only state to

Yugoslavia was only state to date that has attempted to operate almost its entire economy on the basis of self-management of business enterprises on all levels from the shop floor to the board of directors.From middle of 70 's system from huge grow comparable with Japan miracle in time started to crack and stall.From '75 to '84 debt grow in proportion to failure.In 1985-6 special state federal goverment commision, comunist party commision and Milivoje Dimić made "Critical analysis of political system of socialistic worker self management" book for central body of communist party of SFRY and text become integral part of document for 24 congress og communist party of Yugoslavia.
http://books.google.com.au/books?id=ZLoMAAAAYAAJ&num=100
From 1986-7 it become clear that this social enginering is dead for good.Oposition to analysis in years after.. embrace national socialism and made Yugoslav wars.

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Chomsky is a great scholar in linguistics and also knows

Chomsky is a great scholar in linguistics and also knows what "blowback" and "interventionism" mean re: past US foreign policies...

(or were they actual "US foreign policies", btw? Very MUCH debatable, if one asks me...)

BUT, I am sad to say:

Chomsky has a very poor understanding of the virtues of free markets. He has very biased views on those for the simple reason that free markets HAVE LONG ceased to exist and have been replaced with crony capitalism.

Sadly again, he has long ago decided to blame natural capitalism as a whole, confusing it with what took over it.

Being a pretty old man who never ceased to be more of a scholar in his quiet, peaceful, MIT office, than anything else, I am afraid he doesn't have anymore the strong enough guts and wisdom required to see what are the real challenges faced by a labourious, shrinking middle class he claims to be defending in some of his views.

Therefore:

Noam Chomsky is in DIRE NEED to read more of Ron Paul, and of the Mises Institute and forget for a while all of the delusional economics books that likely still sit on his library's shelves.

Then, yes, maybe, Chomsky could eventually become useful to the cause of Liberty and inalienable individual rights that we are trying to Restore for this country.

Noam : here's Why Ron Paul !

'Hope this helps.

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Chomski is Liberal

Chomski is Liberal communist.Durring the sixtees there has been a Liberal wave throught communist movement in reaction to state communism.Movement never succeded to be implemented,but has influence in some communist regimes which experimented with mix of communism and Liberal ideas.When Communistic Bureaucracy get status,they tend to be more liberal in private property rights.So whatever spoils from Revolution they get they want to preserve for themself.Goal of any bureucratic communist is to become ritch capitalist.That has been background of that movement.Bureoucrats to push for themself, created idea that workers can have simmilar rights on ownership.Catch on that is these workers rights never get implemented in writing like deeds of ovnership or shares in company because that means implementing capitalism.
Even declarative ownership without any meaning get some stupid situations,like workers-owners going to strike against themself.Chomski actualy has spend lot of time in research for failures of Liberal communism.Because this movement is pure early divide of spoils of communist revolutions there has been push in takeover in state institutions using patriotic and national card.Former Soviet union and former Yugoslavia desingrate because bureaucrats wanted to be kings in their grand small states.That actualy happened in sixtees too.This try of takeover and division made swift retribution from clasical communists,and some Liberal communists have been killed or imprisoned.
Most of them lived long enough to be leaders of destruction of communism and become presidents and prime ministers.Chomski is communist and he like Lennin ideas.Lennin actualy has been against WWI and he pull out Soviet Russia of that war.He has position that any war which is imperialistic war is for capitalist to get richer with stealing of resurces.Whole idea of Chomski is that any war has
reasons in capital distribution and excuse for start in some secondary unrelated event.His reasoning is that poor people from two sides of war die for capitalist interests.War is violent event and cant be explained only by terms of capital distribution.WWII is good example that war is about liberty of individual.When individual liberty is under treat individuals have personal motivation to accept war solution.In many wars fear and propaganda drive population to this point.Anyway war is actual failure of function of the state.State has responsibility of functional diplomacy.War is diplomacy by other means.In our every war real guilty person is secretary of the state.They all fail in delivery of diplomatic solution.They all fail on their job,and some haven't clue what is their job.Hillary in Lybia crisis acted like top Pentagon general,and totaly putt in danger relations with Russia,Powell and Rice have been selling Iraq war,Madelein in Yugoslavia etc.

Chomsky is a communist.

Period. He bashes the Marxists but until he comes off this insane idea of giving away authoritarian power, or stopping this treatment of "CORPORATIONS" as actual persons then he deserves no quarter.

For he has the wrong ideas, and only the right ideas will win freedom for all. He would then openly endorse Ron Paul.

Corporations aren't people

The presently elected judge of the day could argue either way, and in both cases wantonly disregard previous court decisions as our supreme court did in coming to their conclusion. The fact of the matter is that corporations should not be people, because if they were, their manifestation has no conscience. In that case, your modern multinational corporation is a psychopath. Decisions are up to shareholders, and money invites no consideration of harm to others. Workers should absolutely have some say in the moral actions of their corporation.

Hooray authoritarian power, huh.

Chomsky is.. (veteran of wikipedia arguments)

Chomsky is libertarian socialist. Its actually a French precursor to libertarianism. In its most benevolent form its a kucinich-like position that tries to emphasize the freedom of the individual from the state but disagrees with the american perspective on property rights (control of all products and derivative products of ones labor) and corporations (the latter are creations of the state). Libertarian socialists are against passive income and believe control/use creates ownership and that ownership is transferred by use or disuse. A workers collective mediates property disputes. Hence it is against the accumulation of capital. Which means f*u* to savers, shareholders, investors, speculators--the mechanisms of capitalist wealth generation and asset accumulation. Although it has useful critiques on corporations and the subservience of corporations to individuals(I say tax corporations at 80%).

Communist or

Communist or Socialist?Socialism is transition from Capitalism to Communism.All Socialists on the end of bla bla process are Communists.Liberal Communism is more appropriate than Libertarian in teoretical terms.I know that Chomsky have problem with the popular meaning of term Liberal in US so he sell himself like libertarian.

I agree with FU to corporatism, but

The key thing is to throw out the insane idea the corporations are people. Corporations are contracts with the state. They are legal creations designed to relieve owners of liability and provide other benefits.

Corporations should have no rights whatsoever. People--individual owners--might have property rights in the corporations so that arbitrary government action might be considered a taking, but that's a separate idea from the idea of corporations themselves having "rights."

Corporations justly have NO rights. They have only privileges granted by the government which created them. Only human beings have rights.

Among basic human rights of people is the right to own property. "Libertarian" socialists need to understand that human beings have inalienable rights to own property (including firearms, naturally). But of course they don't believe that. As long as they don't recognize private property rights along with other basic human rights, they're crazy crackpots and they'll get no support or attention from me.

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Chomsky's Key weakness: The State= Authoritarian..!

Chomsky professes the State is good, and can always be benevolent if done under the right ruling body.

But what he fails to recognize in this backwards logic, is the "STATE" is always authoritarian!!!!

It is DICTATORIAL, telling everyone & every business what to do!

NO ONE, and I mean no one...should applaud the state or pat the State on the back. They should replace it with nothing.

Allow free markets and local businesses to flourish again, which increases and allows market production. Including trade of gold & silver, from the State government to the county level..and you absolutely have no need for the construct of the "STATIST" institution at all.

What of all the Swat teams, Food Nazis, IRS hit squads, Education Czars who tell you what to think & all of that? That is "the State" & we simply don't need it.

The state is in its worst

The state is in its worst case is only a vehicle for other actors like industry to act through, i.e. covert corruption. Malfeasance at the state level can at least be contained by a vigilant populace that insists on transparent election and money systems--over corporations as separate people, and not mere contracts with the state, into which no transparency could be expected on principle.

Exercise no power over corporations and there WON'T be "local businesses" except in a rare cases. The purely laissez faire approach guarantees a monotonous blanket of Wal-Marts and Best Buys. Allow a failed free market and you have a collection of private tyrannies, effectively no different than a stagnant nationalized system. What's the determining factor, then?

The state's SUPPOSED to be accountable to us. The fact that it's not indicates a failure on our part, but nothing insurmountable.

People of course should be enabled to act collectively through legislature against the acts of corporations which, unlike any person you or I know personally, could force an instant defeat through our corrupted penal system.