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CrossTalk: Run, Paul, Run! 25 minute video of heated discussion on RT about Ron Paul

RT spends 25 minutes worth 25 days on mainstrem media. Rare quality discusion...

Does Ron Paul have enough charisma and audacity to run against Obama? Is he a true Republican? Can he unite the party? And how would he fix the economy? CrossTalking with Mark Williams, Mark Levine and Michael Brendan Dougherty.

http://youtu.be/mIdMiXiSeoI

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Ouch!!!

All three say he can't win, especially the moderator, that Libertarian-leaning force will always be in the minority.

Bright point is laying the foundation for Rand - I guess. But we all know when Paul exits the political scene, his message will die. Unless, there is a fanicial mess and/or the government becomes overbearing to the point that Americans will actually revolt - don't hold your beath on that one - too many are watching TV and playing XBOX to give a damn. When this is done, I hope DP remains active and we can work on a way forward. I know most say stay on th course of taking over the GOP, but I think a thrd party effort would be better, although it would take longer.

To remedy all of this is to seriously give RP your effort, fight for delegates, uncover any fraud and win this thing!

This was just aggravating to

This was just aggravating to watch...a bunch of liars deciding on which lie better describes how they believe Ron Paul actually thinks...Taurus Feces

"and the truth shall make you free"
John 8:32

taurus feces!? You sly devil! LOL!

It's a little daunting when Paul is actually covered in the press and not ALL the talking-heads are PRO Paul!? But which candidates do get all pro-coverage? Coverage is Coverage and at least we get to respond/correct/bash the coverers! Bravo RT! That's important! No?

PS: America's choice for news coverage is Russia Today!? Go Figure!!!!!!

That's just not something to be proud of where I come from.

"If you want something you've never had before, you have to do something you've never done before." Debra Medina

Funny To Watch

The other two (Mark and Mark) nod their heads as Michael talks. Then when it's their turn, they switch back to Republicrat bickering-points.

It's demonstrative of the unifying power of Ron's message. Neither of the Marks wanted to attack or argue with Michael. And it was funny listening to them squirm while they tried to justify their positions. Both of the Marks effectively said "Gee, I like Ron Paul when it comes to freedom-A, but I disagree with his stance on freedom-B".

It's only a matter of time now till they open their eyes. I was a neo-con less than a year ago when I thought "Gee I like Ron's stance on economic-freedom, but we really need those laws to restrict social behavior".

Yep!

If there were more discussions like this one...just on Paul's views...couldn't imagine the impact! AAAAARGH!

"If you want something you've never had before, you have to do something you've never done before." Debra Medina

Straw Man Arguments

They all call Dr. Paul crazy, YET they pervert his platform before attacking him on it. If he's so crazy, why can't you tell the truth about him and attack what he REALLY says and believes? Why do you have to attack positions he doesn't even take in order to defame him?

His "isolationist" foreign policy is one that stands out.
The claim that he wants people without insurance to "die in the street" is also a lie.

I also think it's funny when these clowns say his ideas are "wild" or "crazy", but yet can't ever give a REAL [not straw man] example.

I do not believe Ron Paul's views are "minority" views. I believe the majority is prevented from hearing his views by the media, which only presents them in a distorted way. I believe the narrow views that make up the R's and D's are "minority" views.

He lied three times, even Mark Wilson called him on it...

He said I quote "Ron Paul would make sure everyone's homeless.

He would allow terrorists like Osama Bin Laden to escape.

He would endanger our troops abroad."

All three lies were spear-headed by Mark Levine!!

Ron Paul has never declared any of those positions.
In fact, he said the wars must end & letters of marque issued to capture remaining terrorists. Special ops teams - period.

In fact, he's said for thirty years that our foreign policy is what's endangering the troops and their mission. And in fact, for 30 years, he has said Medicare recipients would be transitioned over to proper PRIVATE insurance, which these liars just ignored.

Ron Paul is NOT against war

he is against undeclared, idiotic no win wars with no mission statements that end up killing thousands of innocent people and destroying whole countries, while resulting in millions of refugees. Levin is such a twisted person, he uses extreme examples and lies to justify his thoughts even though they are all muddled up. Government healthcare will provide for all, but at what cost Mark?? How many jobs will be lost from the extra taxation Mark?? Just because supposedly everyone will have healthcare from the federal government, does not mean that everyone will be better off. Just another idiot. Who listens to him anyway? Twisting Ron Paul's ideas and calling him isolationist or libertarian (uuuuuuu i am scared) will win over the sheep. The problem here is that USA is full of sheep. That is what worries me the most.

It's fair to say he is against war

...because he has the economic understanding that war is always only ever destructive, and the moral understanding that when war really is necessary it is only because something very, very bad is happening. Anyone who comprehends this and is not "against war" is either a masochist, a sadist, ignorant, or nuts.

Ron Paul is certainly not a pacifist, and I think that's probably the point you are addressing (and the implication by Mark Levine, which to be fair I have not actually watched yet). But it seems accurate and even commendable to say he is against war. We should all be against war, willing to resort to it only as a very, very last resort.

He is far more anti-war than any Democrats.....

And that includes the FAKERS in the GOP!

But Ron Paul would declare war if done by Congress, with constitutional authority. Period.

He is for a very strong national defense and has always emphasized that. That means there isn't a single candidate who is truly "anti-war", but as Ron Paul speaks, he is anti-intervention since its bankrupted us all.

Gawd, I pity tha Fool

who challenges Pres. Paul, who will destroy you and make you wish you never opened your mouth! Then leaves you in ashes to recover on your own!

"If you want something you've never had before, you have to do something you've never done before." Debra Medina

a bunch of BS

Talking heads who try to look important as they talk about somthing that they no nothing about. I hate to hear them proclaim that no way ROn Paul will be president. Or to talk about the constitution as if its just a guide line and out of date. I only shake my head.

sovereign

Bravo! SH!

it really is a race... a race to those whose who "ACCEPT" the truth or ....... or not!

"If you want something you've never had before, you have to do something you've never done before." Debra Medina

Just a reinteration here about RT....

...Crosstalk did run a "Romney = death to the GOP" show a week or so ago, where there were so many openings to cite Ron Paul and he wasn't mentioned ONE TIME - so - although this is good; let's consider their audience...perhaps only an anti-West one...

After the show I blogged here that we should contact the host and complain about not mentioning Ron Paul...Sounds like WE DID IT!!!

I wrote:

"they" want us all to pass on this election...and wait for "better candidates" in 2016 ...

I watched this Crosstalk last night...and let me just say...for a 25 minute program bashing Republicans; RT(as "truthful" about America's interference, meddling, reckless spending, bullying, hypocrisy etc.) is doing our grassroots revolution NO FAVORS while covering and acting sympathetic to every other "uprising" the world over!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=iqB...

I think we ALL need to contact Peter J. Lavelle at RT and ask WHY in this whole segment about the death of the GOP, he did not mention Ron Paul as the "light-bearer"/Ronald Reagan/Barry Goldwater who could help them RETURN to their small government platforms!

We are being beat down with clubs from election fraud to expensive/professional media outlets ALL over the place!!!

Just remember; MOST Neo-Con, water-carrying, right-wing talk-radio hosts and pundits think Ron Paul is a whack-job, but they profess they LOVE Rand Paul!!!

We better make our showing in Tampa HUGE! Once the GOP picks their nominee, IF it is not Ron Paul; Obama's re-election is certain...and there will be no 2016 victory like these guys think...because Statesman will be exponentially outnumbered by willing servants to TYRANNY!"

We've STILL got some INFLUENCE, gang!

Mark Levine is a twisted, congenial liar and a shill..

Mark Levine, you twisted little congenial liar & shill for the mainstream media!!!

"Democrats don't agree with him. Sure, some of them do on war. We don't support nation building or foreign intervention based wars after all in our party."

Yes, YOU DO, you lying, perfidious scum!!!
http://www.american-reporter.com/4,421/328.html

"Republicans support the nation building. But Republicans only agree with his ideals on economic policy. Ron Paul would end social programs & make people homeless"

Another LIE, TWICE, caught on camera. Not only do Democrats openly support the warfare state, they also support their allies in the GOP who demand more welfare!!!

Who is their GOP allies? Mark Wilson admitted as much its her democrat traitors. The Roosevelt Democrats are their GOP allies, & they demand welfare/warfare for all!
Roosevelt: "There isn't a single problem we can't fix...using big government."

YOU don't support Dr. Paul, Levine, but disaffected democrats & Americans across the Tea Party spectrum sure as heck do..

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yeah!

time to expose these "agents" who infiltrate and spin wherever they can.

Infact RT is just another con on the american people.
They are the steam off channel for the opposition voice while discrediting them through the backdoor!

Russia Today exposed by Ben Swann:

http://blogdogcicle.blogspot.com/2012/02/ben-swann-maine-rel...

As soon as they try taking a movement over, expose these lying shills!!! Expose them everywhere, we got more press who will do the real work.

The GOP Democrats are desperately trying to hang onto power.
Make sure Judge Napolitano exposes these crooks!

What can I say?

RT rocks!

LL on Twitter: http://twitter.com/LibertyPoet
sometimes LL can suck & sometimes LL rocks!
http://www.dailypaul.com/203008/south-carolina-battle-of-cow...
Love won! Deliverance from Tyranny is on the way! Col. 2:13-15

Trust but verify baby!

least that's something!

CNN-CBS-ABC-NBC-FNC-ad nauseum-forget about 'em!

"If you want something you've never had before, you have to do something you've never done before." Debra Medina

Really didn't excite me that much.

The ol' "Ron Paul won't win"...mantra is always a fly in the ointment and the uneducated, biased, uninformed, lying going on with the guest (Levin), is proof positive that the scheme of blacking out Ron is alive and well...

"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is argument of tyrants. It is the creed of slaves." William Pitt in the House of Commons November 18, 1783
"I know major allies who fund them" Gen. Dempsey

Are u shittin me??!!

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You want the BlackOut????????

"If you want something you've never had before, you have to do something you've never done before." Debra Medina

sometimes black out is better then this

spinned stuff.

I wouldn't sh*t you....

I don't think you understood my intent. After over four years here, and thirty years supporting, I wouldn't be dissing Ron. Think twice.

"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is argument of tyrants. It is the creed of slaves." William Pitt in the House of Commons November 18, 1783
"I know major allies who fund them" Gen. Dempsey

The Mark Levine?

The "grate" one? I'm sure he won't be biased.

"The problem is not those in power, the problem is right between your ears." ~Larken Rose

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5FNDRgPOLs&list=FL4wdZ0dK3HG...

Thank goodness

it not that "grate" one.

"The problem is not those in power, the problem is right between your ears." ~Larken Rose

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5FNDRgPOLs&list=FL4wdZ0dK3HG...

Would have been better

had they not constantly reiterated the same, tired propaganda line many of us don't believe. Ron Paul will win because that's how we ensure Obama loses.

If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy.
James Madison

RT is awesomw, but it is not MSM

If this coverage was on CBS, NBC, FOX, CNN, ABC, etc. Ron Paul would be in the White House with a landslide victory and the bankers and scoundrels in office would be running for the hills.

beephree

Yep! For now they are all we got!

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"If you want something you've never had before, you have to do something you've never done before." Debra Medina

Russian TV lol

We should all go to russia. They hate their government and crooks behind it even more.