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Survey: Who Wants To Leave The United States If Ron Paul Is Not Our Next President?

Hello, everyone.

BEFORE I CONTINUE I WANT TO REMIND EVERYONE TO BE OPTIMISTIC, BECAUSE MIRACLES DO HAPPEN - I HAVE SEEN MIRACLES HAPPEN, and NO MATTER WHAT, OUR R[3]VOLUTION IS FOREVER NO MATTER WHERE WE ARE.

We are here in this world to make a POSITIVE difference and that will NEVER change, no matter where we are.

The Truth, Peace and Freedom Movement is Worldwide and NO-ONE WILL STOP IT.

Now...having said that and just looking at possible scenarios into the future, because I have to get this off my chest:

I am asking this because of my own circumstances and I will give you some background. Perhaps some or many of you are in a similar situation as I find myself in.

NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS IN THE FUTURE, I SEE THE DAILY PAUL AS A WONDERFUL PLACE FOR COMMUNAL SUPPORT FOR ALL OF US THAT I HOPE WE WILL HAVE FOR YEARS AND YEARS TO COME. Life-Long Friendships will come out of this community.

My personal concern:

I was not born in The United States but I have spent half my life here. I love the people of this country. I really like California. It's my country now in so many ways. Most of my friends live here and I do not want to leave them.

Starting all over again in another country will be such a disruption. I could do it but really don't want to.

I am at a point in my life where I am emotionally prepared to embark on a serious relationship with a special girl, and in the future, perhaps marry and maybe have a family (...although I am reluctant to consider bringing a child into this world until things get better).

Which brings me to this point:

Say I meet the girl of my dreams and I have the money to put a down payment on a house.

I COULD NOT DO IT HERE IN THE U.S. NOW. Not yet. Not with such an uncertain future ahead. Until I know what will happen after this election, I WOULD NOT INVEST IN PROPERTY. I will not get into ANY KIND OF LONG-TERM DEBT BECAUSE NOW I REALLY DON'T KNOW IF I WILL STAY HERE IF ANYONE EXCEPT RON PAUL IS OUR NEXT PRESIDENT: There is no other choice and we are all so blessed and lucky to have such a golden opportunity. Given how uncertain the future is, I would NOT go into business: ANY business. NOT HERE AND NOT NOW. I would feel as if that would equal building a castle on sand.

Never in my life have I been so confused and uncertain.

All I know is this:

If either Obama, Romney, Santorum, Gingrich (would never happen) or Nightmare-Scenario Brokered-Convention Surprise Jeb Bush are [s]-elected President, I AM LEAVING.

I know many people feel this way and have expressed such views and concerns in this forum.

I am asking because those of us who consider leaving an option should talk to one another just in case.

For this personal survey, I only ask a few simple questions:

1- Would you consider leaving if anyone but Ron Paul is our next President?

2- Of those who have contemplated to re-locate, how many consider Latin America an option? How many consider Europe an option? How many consider Canada an option? (I feel Europe and Canada are in the same NEW-WORLD-ORDER "ditch" as the U.S., unfortunately).

These are just questions and I really hope we can PUSH TOGETHER and make Dr. Ron Paul our next President.

I just know in my heart that any of the other "candidates" will simply finish-off this country. Whatever "crumbs" are left over, they will simply pick-them-off and hand them to their masters.

I KNOW THIS: Without Ron Paul? THE BILL OF RIGHTS AND THE CONSTITUTION = Gone. NAZI GERMANY 2.0 @ U.S.A.

DO NOT FEEL DEPRESSED READING THIS WORDS BECAUSE IN THE END, THE FREEDOM REVOLUTION WORLDWIDE WILL WIN.

I just feel that without a Ron Paul Presidency, our VICTORY - which will come - will take much longer.

I am NOT taking another 4 or 8 years of this. I've had enough.

I welcome your thoughts, and...NO. I AM NOT GIVING UP. I WILL NEVER GIVE UP.

...Just looking ahead in this chess-game of our future and our lives.

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That would take YEARS. Good Luck.

That would take YEARS. Good Luck.

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lol so instead you leave the country?

and leave it to the criminals and years later your new haven get probably bombed by the neocons..

When Gangsters Moved To My Neighborhood...

When Gangsters moved to my neighborhood (nice neighborhood so to "them" it was prime, virgin Real-Estate") and started plying the kids with drugs and going after the girls, I went around knocking on doors to alert all my neighbors. 250 Condominiums, at approximately 4 persons per residence = 1,000 people.

How many stood SHOULDER-TO-SHOULDER with me? About 5 OLDER LADIES, and we coordinated with The Police Department to clean this place up. It took A COUPLE OF YEARS.

How many MEN stood up with me? Only TWO MEN. A very kind, huge Black Man with a huge heart (Security Guard who would do "the rounds" here for FREE after coming home from work) and another man...both older than me. Besides for them, there was ONLY ONE OTHER GENTLEMAN (Home Owner's Association President) who used to live here and was THE ONLY MAN who used to stand shoulder-to-shoulder with me. Eventually he gave up and moved away.

This has been my experience with all these "tough-barking - no action Americans".

But when there is a Football Game On? That's when you get to hear TOUGH, "Red-Blooded American Bravado": Go, Chargers! Go, Chargers!". So "though". "We Won!!!" (Pssst: No, you didn't. You did nothing except sit on your couch yelling and acting though drinking beer. The Athletes won: You didn't).

Not bashing anyone: Just relating my experience.

If "The Brown Stuff Were To Hit The Spinning Propeller" Here?

I AM NOT COUNTING ON ANYONE TO STAND UP FOR ANYONE, and if ANYONE? Ladies would outnumber "men", approximately 5 to 1 ratio.

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“Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it’s realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy.”
― Ron Paul

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LOL

Now there is one I didn't think about, You are probably right. The U.S. will soon be the only country that is not contaminated with Depleted Uranium.

If I disappear from a discussion please forgive me. My 24-7 business requires me to split mid-sentence to serve them. I am not ducking out, I will be back later to catch up.

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Wrong

We are already contaminated after the March 2011 reactor explosion. That is why obama ran to SA just after it happened.

The radiation release is ongoing in Fukushima. It is ONLY getting worse. The only thing that is for sure is the radiation is continuing to accumulate and grow in it's intensity and contamination of the entire northern hemisphere.

What no one wants to think about is, what will happen to all the reactors after a chinese EMP goes off over the nation, thus eliminating the energy grid to keep all these reactors in the US from melting down?

Are YOU downwind of any of these strategically placed reactors on the west coast? Or, what is up wind of you towards the west?

Does that resonate with anyone here?

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“Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it’s realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy.”
― Ron Paul

Thank you been there

Please check date stamp.

http://www.dailypaul.com/166323/anyone-in-caorwa-or-western-...

Still questioning this as not resolved yet.

If I disappear from a discussion please forgive me. My 24-7 business requires me to split mid-sentence to serve them. I am not ducking out, I will be back later to catch up.

Make Bentonite A Part Of Your Diet.

Make Bentonite a part of your diet. It is CLAY (liquid or powder) and it "traps" heavy metals. One teaspoon a day. About $10 at your local health-food store.

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Iodine

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If I disappear from a discussion please forgive me. My 24-7 business requires me to split mid-sentence to serve them. I am not ducking out, I will be back later to catch up.

That is only for Cesium 131 Immediately After Released.

That is only for Cesium 131 Immediately After Released in the environment. There are MANY Radioactive isotopes besides for Cesium that Iodine will not help with at all.

You have NO IDEA of what you are talking about.

Study.

http://www.fairewinds.com/

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TSA

Just got back from Sweden and had the cancer photo plus the rude pat down. Gotta watch out for grammas you know! Saw the 3 year old in a wheelchair video getting a pat down also. I have hip replacement and go thru this eternally. Point- not fun to leave or return to USA.

This Has Got To Stop.

This Has Got To Stop.

Seriously. Human Beings being treated worst than animals (...with all due respect to animals).

I do not have children, but I assure you:

When and if I have children:

NO-ONE TOUCHES MY CHILD AND NO-ONE PHOTOGRAPHS MY CHILD!

This reminds me of a story a very dear friend from Mexico told me:

He told me that a photographer arrived at an Indian Village and was photographing children.

Probably National Geographic or something alike.

Nothing "sinister", probably, but Native Americans have been so abused by Europeans / Americans, that they do not trust them at all.

Besides they have their own traditions and beliefs which SHOULD BE RESPECTED:

Native people's do not like their pictures taken because a picture can be used for negative purposes (...as in Black Magic or the documentation of children in the village) and they are a very private people: THEIR RIGHT.

The photographer was warned by the town people NOT to take pictures of children.

The photographer disregarded the Tribal Town's warnings and continued.

The photographer was warned a second time, but disregarded the Indian's warnings.

Eventually the photographer was found dead hanging upside-down from a tree.

TRIBAL JUSTICE.

R[3]VOLUTION MEXICAN-INDIAN STYLE.

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Leaving americ and giving up is stupid

what about moving all to one state?
Getting politicly engaged in all stages of the political process.
Taking over the media.
Fighting every fed involvment in this state.
Beeing an example for the rest of the states.

Leaving The American Continent? (Going Overseas?)

Leaving The American Continent? (Going Overseas?)

Or leaving The United States?

(Big Difference).

You are free to clarify.

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united states!

of America!!!!!!

Its on us to turn this country around!
To be again the greatest nation on the face of planet earth!
Free and prosperous!

RON PAUL R[3]VOLUTION 2012!

RON PAUL R[3]VOLUTION 2012!
RON PAUL R[3]VOLUTION 2012!
RON PAUL R[3]VOLUTION 2012!
RON PAUL R[3]VOLUTION 2012!

...The Only Way. Time's Up!

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you can't survive in a burning house

This society (long ruled by psychopaths) is collapsing (economically and morally). Millions will die from starvation and disease.
If it were not for family, I'd have left long ago.
I hear Uruguay is nice.
And I would NOT hesitate, as a "bank holiday" (and Lord knows what else) could be announced any day. Once that happens, it may be impossible to escape.

THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA HAS A GOLD-STANDARD CHANCE:

THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA HAS A GOLD-STANDARD CHANCE:

RON PAUL R[3]VOLUTION 2012!

EXPOSE ELECTION FRAUD NOW!

ATTORNEYS-AT-LAW NOW!

Let The Gathering Begin.

R[3]VOLUTION!

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Not saying people are wrong to be thinking this way, but...

Be aware of the "grass is always greener on the other side" possibility.

I left the USA about a dozen

I left the USA about a dozen years ago.

My main reason was because the culture was trying to block my pursuit of happiness, mainly in that I wanted to date and marry someone who was still a virgin, a college student most likely, but the culture was trying to make sure that there was no such thing as an adult virgin and the culture also tried to tell me that a man over 30 supposedly had no business dating a woman in her early 20's, as if that would be any of their business to tell me or a young adult woman whom we should be dating.

The extremism of both the left and right in the USA was hurting my life from both sides.

Overseas there's less extremist pressure coming from the left and the right, so a single male has more time to date women he's actually attracted to and find someone appropriate to have children with where, importantly, there is no massive child support law Sword of Damocles hanging over the man's head in case of divorce.

Why do I care about US politics?

Because other countries copycat American laws.

They really do.

Also, it's terrifying that the USA is the only country in the history of the world that demands income taxes from citizens even if they are not in the country and didn't earn anything there.

All expats that are not for Ron Paul for that reason alone are brain dead.

Then there is the little matter where, during the Bush Administration, American men were having their laptops confiscated at American airports so the authorities could check to see if one might have a pornographic image on it where the busybodies might determine that the model could have been, gasp, 17.

Male expats regarded Bush's USA as being almost worse than Saudi Arabia.

Then there is the issue of digital rights and piracy:

Hollywood should have long ago put their films on the Internet a week after the premier and placed advertising (commercials) inside them.

By not doing so and, instead, viciously cracking down on what files people are allowed to post on the Internet, you poor folks in America have no freedom to do what comes naturally to the vast majority of the world's population:

And that is that we can watch almost any film Hollywood ever produced within seconds and often days before the film has been officially released.

Because Hollywood has refused to switch to an embedded advertising model, high quality pirate videos are now available in non-English speaking countries and people are watching them for free.

And all the nations that are not beholden to the USA are allowing this (not censoring the Internet).

This makes me wonder what else is being censored besides copyrighted content.

Your Concerns Are Not My Concerns.

Your Concerns Are Not My Concerns.

Women seem to be your concern.

Adult women with an older man? I don't see a problem with that.

Laptops with PORNOGRAPHIC IMAGES OF 17 Year Old Girls?

That is PAEDOPHILIA and I WOULD BE THE VERY FIRST PERSON TO CALL THE APPROPRIATE AUTHORITIES TO DEAL WITH SUCH A SCUMBAG.

My Concern is THE STABILITY OF THE UNITED STATES, PREVENTING ELECTION FRAUD, AVOIDING A TOTAL ECONOMIC COLLAPSE AND A WORLD WAR.

WE WILL DEAL WITH PERVERTS WHO THINK IT IS A "GASP" THAT PEOPLE FIND PORNOGRAPHIC PICTURES OF 17 YEAR OLD "MODELS" IN THEIR LAPTOPS SERIOUSLY OBJECTIONABLE IN DUE TIME.

Glad you are not here and hope the friends and parents of any 17 year old "model" in your lap-top bring a TRULY MERCILESS REVOLUTION UPON YOU!

Vete al Infierno, Hijo De Puta.

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I'm pretty sure 95%+ of my

I'm pretty sure 95%+ of my high school graduating class (way back in the day) were not virgins.

Fast Times at Ridgemont High

“Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it’s realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy.”
― Ron Paul

How sad.

How sad.

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I'd actually like to see

I'd actually like to see someone take a lie detector around the Senate and House asking every Senator/Rep. if they've ever had sex with someone under 18...including when they themselves were under 18. That lie detector would be going insane (of course, the person with the lie detector would probably be arrested under one of the dozens of anti-protest laws).

Most of the population would be in prison....but that is par for the course in the US....which loves to imprison people.

“Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it’s realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy.”
― Ron Paul

The "Lie" Detector would disintegrate or explode.

The "Lie" Detector would disintegrate or explode.

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I'm sure it is worse than that

Clergy,Judges,Law enforcement,Teachers,Politicians,Uncles,Aunts,First cousins,Second cousins,Etc. Human nature is human nature. I am just having trouble with any man ever stating with hypocrisy that they "Have never looked or had thoughts". Any man stating this is an absolute liar and hypocrite in the least. "I would never even think about it with a girl that is only 17ys and 11 1/2 months old", Yeah, Right.

If I disappear from a discussion please forgive me. My 24-7 business requires me to split mid-sentence to serve them. I am not ducking out, I will be back later to catch up.

"Thinking" is one thing...

"Thinking" is one thing...

Acting thoughts is an entirely different matter.

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To Christians they are...

One and the same.

If I disappear from a discussion please forgive me. My 24-7 business requires me to split mid-sentence to serve them. I am not ducking out, I will be back later to catch up.