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Paul needs to form an alliance with Santorum

Hear me out on this: I hate Rick Santorum. However, all non-Romney candidates need to change the game SOON or the author of Obamacare will be the Republican nominee. Both Santorum and Paul are victims of election fraud where Romney came out the winner - Santorum in Iowa and Paul in Maine. They should release a joint statement questioning the Romney campaign's election tactics and their cozy relationship with the Republican party establishment.



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Contraception Con

Santorum only shows up on the radar because some really smart Obama operatives put him there by coming out with the contraception con; making an issue out of thin air designed to do exactly what it did, get the catholics to come out in force for him, even though he is totally trash.

Dems supporting Obama LOVE Snatorum because they beat him in a walk. Obama won't have to spend a dime of that 300 million he's got ready to go.

Hopefully, catholics will pull their heads out of their collective rectums and figure out they've been conned.

I agree entirely that there's

I agree entirely that there's an effort by Obama and the media to make Santorum the nominee. And I'm not even going to deny there's been some dirty tricks conducted either by the Santorum campaign or the Republican party on his behalf. I lived in North Dakota back in 2008. Everywhere you looked there was a Ron Paul sign. I remember telling my editor at the time that Paul would probably carry the state. Of course he lost, but during this election, from my understanding, Paul was almost a shoe in, but somehow Santorum beat his pants off. North Dakota is not like Iowa - they do not vote for the religious right candidates. In 2008, Huckabee came in last place!

How is this endorsing Santorum?

For those of you saying Santorum isn't really the victim of voter fraud, you make several good points. I'm here to learn. However, for those of you who have immediately gone into attack mode simply for suggesting Paul should team up with Santorum on this issue, you sound like the neoconservatives who say you should never negotiate with the enemy. In politics, you have to align yourself with the other side once in a while if that is advantageous to your cause. I don't like Alan Grayson either. He's said horrible things about the tea party. But does that mean if he's willing to team up with Paul in support of his Audit the Fed bill, he should be told to take a hike?

The difference is

Ron is not running against Alan Grayson for the Presidency. Have you already forgotten the MSM's whole Paul/Romney "alliance" BS? Even if you don't believe it would compromise Ron's principles, imagine how the corporate whore media would run with a Paul/Santorum "alliance."
MSM will say, "Well Bob, now Ron Paul appears to be teaming up with Rick Santorum, the self-avowed anti-libertarian, whom Paul previously called a "fake." It looks like Paul is desperately trying to align himself with anyone just to get a speaking spot at the convention. Wow, his supporters must be really disappointed."

Ask yourself, do you really want that?

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Here me out on this!

I hate Santorum ( except when I deepthroat his BS). However, all NoN-Romney candidates need to change the game soon or the author of Obamacare will be the republican nominee. We need my USA CITIZEN hating(NDAA),Patriot act loving, just kill little brown children 3000 miles away,while hell and be damned a woman in the United States is going to have that child even if raped no matter what, candidate to save the DAY! Santorum or NO ONE!!!

Both Santorum and Paul are victims of election fraud(then why don't you get off your ass idiot) where Romney came out the winner- Santorum in Iowa(NOT)(except Santorum contributed to the fraud) and Paul in Maine. ( if you knew of this and didn't come forward you are just a piece of crap).

They should release a JOINT statement!!

Santorum should let everyone know he is a puppet and only entered this race to stop Dr Paul. He should state he is the pawn to re-elect Obama. He knows it and so do we.

On the other hand, the good doctor should state without doubt he and his supporters will stay in this until the end. If the nominee does not conform to the will of the Patriots of this country( The Revolution) he(Dr Paul) will support no one and will consider running against the powers that be.

Jim

1976-1982 USMC, Having my hands in the soil keeps me from soiling my hands on useless politicians.

What?

When it's not Romney's people disregarding the rules it's Santorum's, like in Missouri. How trustworthy of a guy do you think Santorum is? In the debate he admitted he "took one for the team" when he voted for Planned Parenthood. Translation: he'll throwing anybody and anything under the bus to keep his seat of power. For all his moralizing he's a sleazy politician. No alliances necessary.

No he doesn't. Any

No he doesn't. Any association with that lunatic is scar that can't be covered over.

Santorum is EVIL; Paul is GOOD

Didn't know the two mix.

I would normally reply with,

give me some of what your smoking, but that sh!t might kill you! You have been listening to too much talk radio Goebells propagandists. Romney made Romneycare for Massachusets, where they are about 90% liberal, and desired this type of healthcare system. It's a states rights to implement this, but with Obamacare, your talking about the Feds usurping Constitutional rights, a BIG difference. I think Romney is a Corporatist, but he's not an evil f'ing warmongering Israel bowing freak. I probably wouldn't vote for him, but I would NEVER vote for Sanitarium or King Salamander. Your asking Dr Paul to side with a person who voted for and sold us on these wars, and had a hand in the creation of our economic troubles. Flush that sh!t down the toilet, immediately!

You really don't understand the candidates...

among rp suppporters it is common to think romney is not evil, but the rest are evil.

romney is infact more with israel than the other candidates. he is a true insider - and people want to deny that. he knows from the inside what obama is up to. romney is equivalent to ben bernanke or geithner. why do you think goldman sachs funds his campaign but not the others? apparently, you think goldman sachs is not 'evil', but those whom gs does not give to are evil because they are not higher up in the hierarchy.

jj

and Mel Sembler is his chief finance bundler

and, without doubt, Sembler, the organizer/developer of the Straight Clinics, is a terminal child abuser. Numerous juveniles committed suicide and were even killed under his tutelage.

It is going down as predicted

http://www.dailypaul.com/212928/santorum-is-the-biggest-thre...

Months ago many here said it was a 2 man race Mittens vs. Paul, and did not head the warning that Sanitarium was the real threat. The last thing we need is an alliance with the anti-reagan. http://youtu.be/y-WezrKqUBQ We need to expose the fraud.

Ridiculous. Santorum is only

Ridiculous. Santorum is only still in this race to take votes away from Paul. He is RPs arch enemy. He is anti liberty, he believe freedom should be limited, he wants to control your personal life and on and on. It's no surprise to me that the St. Charles caucus fell into chaos after illegally electing a Santorum supporter as chairman. Just as he ignores RP in interviews and debates, his supporters are instructed to ignore RP supporters at caucuses and to proceed as if they aren't there.

Even if Paul camp did

Even if Paul camp did something like that Santorum people are street fighters. They would double cross us.

Make Alliances

On a county-by-county basis. Whatever is necessary to accumulate maximum delegates.

+ inform them about Ron Paul

many just dont know what he stands for..
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All I'm going to say..

If Ron gets Santorum on him, it will never wash off.

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and it will stink to high

and it will stink to high heaven.

Err

1- santorum WAS not victim of fraud in Iowa. at least, there's no clue or evidence that he was contrary to Paul in Iowa which there's ample evidence that there could have been fraud against Paul in ME, IO, SC, NV, AL and at the very least some Paul voter disenfranchising in MO, AK and WA.

2- I do agree though that Romney has to be stopped but the only ones that have some case to complain about fraud is Paul and possibly Gingrich, not Santorum.

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Santorum lost out on

Santorum lost out on delegates in Michigan, and everyone here calls it corruption of the Michigan GOP.

Rules changed after the fact, or something like that.

Ron Paul and Santorum? Why?

An alliance on WHAT? Legalizing marijuana? Repealing the horrid "patriot Act"? Dismantling TSA? Auditing and ending the FED? Getting the Federal government out of the "marriage business"? Peace with Iran, Cuba and North Korea?

There have to points of agreement before a proposed "alliance" even makes sense, much less can be implemented.

There may be, indeed probably are, individual supporters and contributors to Rick Santorum who may be persuaded to support Ron Paul, especially if they are victims of the media blackout and are still uninformed of our policy proposals and his Presidential platform. The same thing goes for SOME supporters of Gingrich and Romney.

However, I think that we can expand our outreach to Santorum's rank and file without any talk of an "alliance" with the Pennsylvania Loon.He is, perhaps as much as Obama or Hillary, as fundamentally oppossed to Ron Paul, and everything that he stands for, as any GOPer can be, and changing his, or their, minds in a "Paulward" direction is probably hopeless.

Trying to cement such an "alliance" will only confuse a lot of newcomers to the Ron Paul revolution, and demoralize some people who have just begun to fight. The effort to undo the damage would be far greater than any advantage(?) we would gain from working with Scamtorum's intolerant and often almost mindless Presidential campaign.

Let Ron Paul, and those of us who work with him, offer our Country something better than the neocon slop offered by Santorum, Romney and Gingrich. A stance of determined opposition against these neocons and their irresponsible policies offers voters and taxpayers much more than talk of alliances, even when we would be running against O'Bomber!

PEACE AND FREEDOM!!

"The worst thing that can happen to a good cause is not to be attacked successfully, it is to be defended badly". F. Bastiat

"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, finally they attack you, and then you win"! Mohandas Gandhi

Some sanity

If Paul is intent on sticking with GOP and going with the convention with minimal delegates and just looking for a plank or two like a speaking slot or something small/irrelevant, then no deal is good.

however, a deal with romney is 'dark' as antiwar.com puts it.

A deal w/ Newt and Santorum would be neutral and he would not lose his credibility. Media is already an uproar about even the thought of a deal with Romney - everyone knows that is bad. But noone would say anything bad and think it is natural for the antiromney's/cons to band together against romney-establishment.

At least you are talking about santorum (though it should be newt as he is more anti-fed and anti-war) instead of Romney.

jj

Credibility with whom?

People aren't voting for Romney because they think he is establishment. There is another reason they are.

What is the reason?

And what do these people that vote for romney think of him? do they view him as anti-estab?

jj

What I'm trying to get at is,

What I'm trying to get at is, Newt and Rick supporters do not really share the same definition of anti-establishment with Ron Paul supporters. It means something different to them. Having talked to Romney voters and reading through tons of comments on him by his supporters.. what is happening all makes sense. Question: where did this "non Romney" idea come from? Think about that. It hit me last night as I was watching one of the interviews Reason did with Rand, where Nick Gilespie asked if he tought it was possible to be a fiscal conservative without being a social conservative. This is what is playing out.

Strong disagreement

There is little common ground in principle

A) Candidate Paul espouses volitional governance

B) Candidate Santorum espouses anti-voluntary coercion domestically, and abroad

Choice A, please

Isn't a brokered convention Paul's best option.?

Some of you sound like Santorum when he tries to accuse Paul of being pro-Iran just because he is open to negotiating with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. From what I've heard, it is mathematically impossible for Santorum to be the nominee. What is best for the Paul campaign: A Republican convention where Romney is the clear cut nominee or a brokered convention? Let's have this delegate fight live on national television where the Republican party can't get away with any tricks. Remember the 1968 convention: "The whole world's watching!"

Yes and No.

Paul needs work with Gingrich who's most close to his own view, as well as Santorum staff to toss out illegal Romney votes.

There's been a few of those and that *IS* the chosen guy, Romney, so Gingrich knows he's not getting anything or winning. So its safe to do that, to play chess...

Brokered convention is still no matter what the reality...and Paul giving nothing to Romney is the outcome, provided he works with Gingrich & the other staff.

So you want a deal w/ Romney...

as that is a brokered convention where a deal w/ romney is announced, where paul 'delivers hsi people to romney/gop estab" for a trick dirty deal.

paul will get screwed and romney is not anyone you even want to talk to.

jj