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Illinois Primary - Results Open Thread

March 20: Illinois Primary - Results:

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Hard to Believe

Something doesn't make sense.

Looking at Illinois Primary results(from CNN):
Ron Paul(85914)

Romney & Santorum can inspire hardly 150 or 200 people
to their rallies. And the good Dr. inspires 4000 or 5000 people to his rallies.

I couldn't believe, on the day of the Primary, all of a sudden almost 755,669 (nearly 3/4th of a million) people get inspired and go to the polling booth and caste their vote for Romney and Santorum.

More and more I start to believe that these numbers are bogus. Unless a real paper ballot tally is made across the state on the total number of votes it's hard to believe these numbers.


Well, at least we beat

Well, at least we beat Gingrich again :(

Many of Gingriches supporters would go to Ron if Gingrich dropped out. I met a whole bunch of them when we went to support a local freedom candidate for City Council. Their platform that they want is Ron Paul's. They just don't realize that Gingrich isn't who he says he is.

I told them he wrote a forward and endorsed about book about destroying the Constitution, but they were't willing to here it.

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Gingrich can speak well and

Gingrich can speak well and is a liar. That combination of traits is incredibly scary to me.

Gingrich is very good

at making whatever he says sound reasonable through voice modulation and his choice of words. I watched a video of him talking at a house party fundraiser(I think) where he talked about Republicans choosing the issues and words that appeal to the majority of the population.

It just occurred to me that one of the words he often uses in his speeches is the word is "rational."

Yes he is

and s is Romney. Honestly if I was not awake I would be taken in by their rhetoric. Especially Newt who is so feisty.

RP is so humble, although I wold not want to get on his wrong side.

These primaries are all fraudulent from where I sit

The establishment

1. Subjects the voters to decades of lies and propaganda in public schools
2. Subjects the voters to 4 - 8 more years of lies and propaganda at university
3. Subjects the voters to decades more of lies and propaganda through their TV sets

and if that doesn't work

4. Fluoridate the voters' water

and if even that fails

5. Rig the voting machines and/or the vote count

Basically all 5 are various forms of fraud, where fraud is defined as (google dictionary):

"Wrongful or criminal deception intended to result in financial or personal (or political) gain."

Note that the accepted definition does not specify any particular length of time. Yeah, that about covers it.

In a nut shell

We who attend/attended public school are educated by the enemy.


We were not educated, we were schooled! Big difference. A fascinating life subject I have just embarked on. "The Ultimate History Lesson" is a required watch. It will let you understand exactly why the masses are so against us. Not because they want to be but because they were schooled to be.

Don't forget

to make sure their antidepressant prescriptions are topped up..

The big event in Tampa will be....

Santorums and Gingrich's endorsement of Romney before the 1st or 2nd round of voting.

Did you expect otherwise?

All Santorum and Gingrich ever were were the Not Ron Paul candidates.


According to GP, "There is no law or rule officially binding the delegates to the candidate"

Does anyone know if the Romney/Santorum delegates are all actually Romney supporters?

thinking to much

They are not that smart.

They can't even figure out 9/11 was an inside job!

Dedictaed delegates after the first roll call can change

If a delegate dedicated to say Rommy from caucus to FIRST roll call and honorably kept its dedication,

but the FIRST roll call isnt decisive,

all dedicated delegates are released from dedication and can vote conscience at that time

its an "open convention"

could take several votes and mucho scurrying about on the floor and coffee shops down the block to donate/trade delegates for promises

THIS is what the campaign is counting on

MANY wise people who have gone for sanitorium or greengrinch will see rommie is STATUS QUO and Dr. Ron Paul is the only wise choice

we have a lotta educating to do before Tampa in August.

Read RNC Rule 15

The unit rule shall not be enforced. There is another rule stating that if a delegate does not feel their vote was recorded correctly, they can approach the parliamentarian and secretary and have their votes corrected.



Romney Delegates

Most - if not all - of the Romney delegates are establishment types. Many are state Reps, state Senators, or high-ranking party officials.

Santorum's delegates include some party establishment in the "down state" counties.

If the rally at U of I

If the rally at the University of Illinois is any indication, Illinois has a lot of Ron Paul supporters. He won some counties, etc. You can bet there are RP supporters in the delegate mix.

The two most important days in your life are the day you are born...and the day you find out why. -Mark Twain

Well on the bright side, he

Well on the bright side, he did secure over 40,000 more popular votes than he did in 2008, however there were no delegates for him in either campaign

Son of a NeoCon!

How did this sneak up on me? I have family in Illinois that I could have pestered! Will there be any delegate stuff going on after this, or was everything said and done today?

it's pretty much said and

it's pretty much said and done. The delegates went pretty much all to romney.

Was the state winner take all?

That would make me feel better...

The results are in and while not the best I must say

I have a sliver of bright news!! Last night I had texted my parents to go out tomorrow and vote, well mid shift tonight at work I checked my voicemail. My mom called saying she went out and voted republican for the first time in her life and voted for Ron Paul!!!

Baby steps people!


my grandparents are both 80 years old and they have been voting democratic thier whole entire life... both of them went out yesturday to vote for ron paul... I gave them Ron Pauls super brochure and talked to them about everything Ron Paul stands for and showed them some videos... they completely agree.... I did not force anything on them, just show them the facts... I love my grandparents... awesome..

Santorums Speech - claims to be freedom candidate???

Santorum gave his speech tonight behind a huge sign saying "FREEDOM" and claiming that HIS campaign was about restoring personal freedom.

when he supports the patriot act? when he supports the NDAA?

Paul needs to call him out on this! His supporters are being BLIND SIDED with LIES as he TRIES TO BE RON PAUL.


Santorum is getting desperate

I get the feeling that Santorum is getting desperate.
He has upped the scale of the lying a couple of notches, just in the last day or 2.
Seems he can feel it slip-sliding away.

"In the end, more than they wanted freedom, they wanted security. They wanted a comfortable life, and they lost it all -- security, comfort, and freedom. When ... the freedom they wished for was freedom from responsibility, then Athens ceased to be free."

the desperation of sanitorium is showing...

Yes Ian56 I saw that in a vid of his speech to his supporters last night

he was borderline dissembling and gaspy as he spoke
had to pause a few times to recollect his point
and generally seemed in shock and discombobulated

ya kno when a huge ego gets even SOME public acclaim it will send its mental vehicle OTT with hubris and it BELIEVES it is invincible

when t gets a back of the head smack ( ala Gibbsy, ;) )
it DOES go into shock and it needs a soft bed and mommie
to comfort and persuade it is still that big star

IMV we saw the beginning of the melt down of the
sanitory man

who would send women to jail for douching out a zygote

and its about time he dissolved himself.

Important Thing is he stays in the race

We want him and Gingrich to stay all the way to Tampa. With four candidates at the Convention there's very little probability Romney will get 50% on the first ballot. That's the key.


It is much better for Ron Paul if they do.

"In the end, more than they wanted freedom, they wanted security. They wanted a comfortable life, and they lost it all -- security, comfort, and freedom. When ... the freedom they wished for was freedom from responsibility, then Athens ceased to be free."

IN politics, NOTHING happens by accident.

FDR said that, I think.

Point is, it doesn't matter whether they stay or not. WHATEVER they are told to do, they will do, and it will be for the benefit of the opposition of Freedom and the Revolution.

But I have hope that, as RP says, ANYTHING can happen. Miracles can happen.

One conceivable "miracle" is that many of the unbound delegates who were previously for Romney, or the other two, may be "inspired" by God/the Cause to NOT vote for their man, and then vote for RP.

The longer RP stays in, the more people get educated.

May God bless our country. I feel the end is near.

A civil war is definitely brewing. I believe we're heading towards a total collapse of the dollar and then utter fall of our government.

"It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a rEVOLution before tomorrow morning." - Henry Ford