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It's too late to convert the people - it's time to convert the DELEGATES!

I have converted literally dozens of people to Ron Paul. Unfortunately, most people are still asleep. What's worse, many of the people I've converted are now discouraged and won't be voting or will be voting for one of the "front runners" because "Paul can't win". The harsh reality is that it's simply too late to convince enough at this point in time to turn it around.

With this in mind, I propose a new strategy - one that I feel has immense possibilities. Convert the Delegates. That is, convert the Delegates for the OTHER CANDIDATES that have already won and are going to the Convention in Tampa.

Now, certainly there are some that are a waste of time. They are establishment lapdogs and wouldn't vote for Ron Paul even if he were to go up against Obama. But there are many that CAN be converted. I am VERY close to converting a Santorum Delegate as I speak. She has already stated that Paul is her second choice, and I feel she can be persuaded with a little more coaxing.

If you know of any Delegates who are already selected for another candidate - don't write them off - work them! You may be surprised how easily they can be converted. And each one converted is equivalent to converting MILLIONS of sheep!




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How to do it.

Another committeeperson and I attended a state convention concerning state commtteepeople voting to endorse a US senate candidate.

What the convention was about, is not important. What is important is that the state committeepeople were present that are going to vote for at-large delegates for that will head to Tampa.

So we chatted with some of the delegates and got some contact info.

This is how it is done.

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Where is DVDs4Delgates 2012?

That's the question.

November 6th 2012 I voted for Dr.Ron Paul
"We must remember, elections are short-term efforts. Revolutions are long-term projects." ~ Ron Paul

YES, bombard them delegates

YES, bombard them delegates with the TRUTH. Hand them DVD's, YouTubes, bring 'em to Ron Paul events. If this thing goes to a brokered convention, on the 2nd round people get to vote their conscience and we at least have a shot at it. Go to the Republican events and meet the delegates and talk to them about the brokered convention. I bet most of them, excluding Paulites of course, don't have a clue about what's going on. Educate them now so there's no slip ups at the RNC. (Which hopefully there's a MILLION Ron Paul Patriots surrounding the convention. That too will convince a whole mess of delegates to switch!)

Otherwise it's police state forever...

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere".
--Voltaire

It's hard not to be a menace to society when half the population is happy on their knees. - unknown

Paul has to say this in public in a speech. C'mon....how else

we gonna get it out there?

SequoiaTrees4RonPaul

And beware of Romney people

trying to cozy up to you. I wouldn't put it past him to buy people.

Texas Delegates

lets get in contact so we can coordinate a stratigy for the state convention.

If you have not contacted your county chairman and indicated your long term past support for the Republican Party and your desire to be a deleget, its ok to drop a few honest coments about Obama. Do this so you get name reconigition when the actual delegate process begins within the next month. I am told that they may not have precinct caucuses. Next monday the GOP is giving out the information will post updates as I find out. My email is purewarrior@swbell.net.

sovereign

Bump for attention!

I'd be interested in hearing some examples or case histories of how this has worked for people in the past.

Agreed

We have the establishment, the media, and many of the most powerful agencies in the world against us. We will have a difficult time winning the popular vote in any state. What we CAN do and have been successful at is showing up for the delegate selection process and winning delegates. That's what we have to continue to try to do.

As I stated in an earlier post ....

... my strategy is for Paul supporters in states that have ALREADY VOTED and ALREADY SELECTED THEIR DELEGATES. I agree that the strategy in states that HAVEN'T voted should be to WIN THE DELEGATES IN THE FIRST PLACE. These are two strategies that work simultaneously! Thanks for your input - I appreciate it.

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GREAT Idea!

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Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

these:

I bet they wake up some of the delegates...

any aggressivnes towards opponent delegates wont work. need to wake them up gently or you get the blowback...

These flyers inform the delegates about the real agendas behind the candidates. please share..
These flyers are all free to print and share:
http://www.mediafire.com/?s4snpbpsts5b3
http://www.dailypaul.com/220294/all-5-versions-of-the-ron-pa...

Whenever I wanted to wake

Whenever I wanted to wake someone up, I did it with bacon. Works every time :)

Ron Paul or Bust

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This

is what I have been proposing for a while now.

I think that we (or the campaign) need to make a DVD that is to be handed out by us at our local GOP meetings.

There should be a direct appeal from RP,reasons why he is the only choice, and why the GOP will lose without him. It should also clear up the main points of contention that delegates may have.

There was an article on HQ's website the other day titled
"Adapt or Die."
I thought this was a very appropriate message. Short and sweet. Either the GOP rediscovers it's PALEO-Conservative roots, or it dies on the vine.

We need to make the most badass DVD ever compiled, and be asking fellow delegates that if they truly care about the future of this country, then they will watch this 30 minute (or 1hr) DVD with an open mind.

This is the most focused and powerful use of time and resources that I can think of. They need to know that it will be their fault if they lose (which they will) not ours.
I have been considering writing RP directly (as I have that ability) and pitching this idea to him.

It just hasn't gotten much traction here. I personally think it's a good idea.

Sorry Jefferson ...

... didn't mean to steal your idea. Hadn't seen you mention it. The CD idea is good, but I'm not sure how many will devote that much time to watching a candidate that they don't support. I find just a couple of minutes a day, talking about different issues each time, is a way of planting seeds. I have yet to fail in converting ANYONE given enough time. And time is something that we don't have a lot of. This strategy is the most efficient use of our time that I can think of. Kudos to you for coming up with it originally.

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Sorry,

I didn't mean to imply that. It's certainly not "my idea," but is a retread of the DVD's4delegates idea of 2008.

I didn't come up with anything originally.

I just don't see any other way of trying to grab a delegate's attention, and clear up a lot of misconceptions either created by the media, or by RP's sometimes cryptic or meandering way of answering things.

It doesn't matter WHO'S idea it is. I think we can both agree that reaching out to the delegates directly, is the best use of time and resources at this point.
After watching RP on Leno last night, it seems like he wants/plans to appeal to the delegates' consciences for a possible win.

I think we need to be focusing our brain power on the best ways of going about that. There is not much time left to make something happen.
Thanks for bringing up this subject, and sorry again if I came across as wanting credit for anything. I couldn't care less who gets credit, as long as it gets done.

Agreed

Let's go out now and get it done.

I take my marching orders from the Constitution!

Good strategy

and going with the general assumption that most delegates are already people that care about the political process (otherwise would they even be delegates?), we can perhaps have some meaningful discussion with a good many of them. Unless they are just totally "establishment," I would hope they'd at least be open to listening. And once we do have an opportunity, in most cases I don't think it'd be that hard to persuade them of the truth. Like someone else said - show them who their candidate really is!

I know it's hard to stay positive and think like this, but if we don't and we allow ourselves to become cynical or negative, we might as well throw in the towel at that point.

When the American spirit was in its youth, the language of America was different: Liberty, sir, was the primary object. - Patrick Henry

Like the plan

I'll see if my local delegates are approachable.

On a related note, if we can get the GOP caucus tampering story international attention, more R/S/G delegates may become more interested in putting Paul - a well-known principled man - in a position to win (or at least have more influence).

I recommend that we tweet teh RT.com report in the following article to the BBC.
http://www.dailypaul.com/222171/how-caucuses-are-stolen-from...

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I very much doubt the BBC would be interested

They are an establishment channel.

You might be able to find a specific journalist wihin the BBC who might be interested but I don't know of one.
UK media pretty much just as locked down as US.
Australia too from what I have heard.

Channel 4 News - John Snow might be interested.
You will need to approach the left wing media as the only ones who might be interested in GOP election rigging. I have already sent reports to the Guardian and the Mirror newspapers about Missouri.
But haven't heard anything back.

The Poles seem a bit rebellious. A whole load of their MP's wore anonymous masks for 1 debate. But I don't speak Polish.

"In the end, more than they wanted freedom, they wanted security. They wanted a comfortable life, and they lost it all -- security, comfort, and freedom. When ... the freedom they wished for was freedom from responsibility, then Athens ceased to be free."

BBC

It worries me that a lot of people here talk about "the establishment" so much. Yeah, institutions and corporations that have been around for a long time are problems in many cases, but not all.

The BBC is a much more politically neutral entity than the UK newspapers are. They're likely to give things a look when the second largest international news channel (RT) is running a program on something.

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Nope Channel 4 news is more of a neutral channel

I live in the UK.
As far as I am concerned the BBC is a government owned propaganda channel.
BBC news terrible.
Newsnight can be fair sometimes.
Years ago it didn't used to be so.

"In the end, more than they wanted freedom, they wanted security. They wanted a comfortable life, and they lost it all -- security, comfort, and freedom. When ... the freedom they wished for was freedom from responsibility, then Athens ceased to be free."

Corrected

Consider me corrected, then. It has been a few years since I last followed the BBC.

Do the networks you'd consider have twitter accounts for submitting news tips?

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Well they have twitter accounts

But not sure that would do any good.
Need to go to their website.

It was the UK budget today - so no point in sending anything to anyone in UK about politics for a couple of days.

"In the end, more than they wanted freedom, they wanted security. They wanted a comfortable life, and they lost it all -- security, comfort, and freedom. When ... the freedom they wished for was freedom from responsibility, then Athens ceased to be free."

Identify them and work them lists.

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I think I may have 3

one Romney
one Gingrich
one Santorum

of course they are not saying it....but I feel it. If it comes down to the wire and they are pressured (not by the typical political BS pressure) to vote for Ron Paul at the convention they probably will.

We haven't had our primary yet. So we'll see if these delegates I'm talking about even get elected. But thought I'd share.

Show them who their candidates REALLY are

If nothing else, get them to make Paul their SECOND CHOICE. That will fortify our brokered convention strategy. Here's how:

Print and hand out comparison sheets to help you sway voters. There are different versions geared a bit more toward specific interests voters may have. Example: voters 50+, looking for the most conservative candidate, budget & taxes, the most committed to their faith, etc. Choose which one is best for you or a bunch of each to maximize swaying the most voters.

FREE DOWNLOAD: http://www.mediafire.com/?s4snpbpsts5b3

or

ORDER them here and proceeds go to the campaign

NEW CONSERVATIVE HISTORY VERSION (also best for Romney supporters who like him for his business experience): http://www.zazzle.com/ron_paul_rick_santorum_mitt_romney_new...

NON PAUL VOTERS OVER 50: http://www.zazzle.com/ron_paul_mitt_romney_newt_gingrich_ric...

TAXES & BUDGET: http://www.zazzle.com/ron_paul_rick_santorum_mitt_romney_new...

TRUE CHRISTIAN CONSERVATIVE: http://www.zazzle.com/ron_paul_rick_santorum_newt_gingrich_m...

ALL VERSIONS: http://www.zazzle.com/wallarts/8x11+flyers?rf=23804099747613...

I agree

We'll need to focus on the delegates, however, we should not abandon the people front as well,because it is likely that the more people we'll get, the more chance we have in convincing the candidates, not to mention, new people converted can even help the movement convert more delegates!

"Earth provides enough to satisfy every man's need, but not every man's greed."~Mahatma Gandhi
Quick Humorous Satire course on Ron Paul: http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_65316&...

I agree Yukimura ....

... never stop attempting to convert the average Joe, but this strategy is perfect for those in states that have ALREADY VOTED. Converting the "people" in those states will not help us at all to win the nomination. This gives Paul supporters in states like Iowa, Missouri, Minnesota, Maine, etc. something to work on, instead of watching the latest You-Tube Paul speech wishing they could have done better.

I take my marching orders from the Constitution!