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How do i get santorum supporters to vote for Ron Paul

Ok so what is the best way to convert my friends who currently support Santorum, to get them on our side? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

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That Is a very Good Question

FIRST, you have to convince them that the PTL Club, Jim and Tammy Bakker, and Paul and Jan Crouch, have been feeding them false hopes and B.S., regarding the Bible, and its' teachings on 'the Rapture', and 'Israel' versus 'Jerusalem' (it could get rather lengthy, these 'escatological' argumemnts).

Barring this, you might look up Santorum's voting record while in the Senate, and pick the best of the worst votes, OR, look up the link that describes him as one of the top 10 most corrupt Senators of 2009...

The falsity of the 'Republican' sham is taken up with a large swath of 'evangelical Christians', who think that we should be Israel's BIT%H (look at the 9/11 issue, as well as other military endeavors promoted by the R establishment). Many of these are 'preterists' and 'nation-builders' who voted for both of the Bushes, under the guidance and direction of the likes of Swaggart, Bakker, Crouch, Hagee, Robertson, et.al., who claim to be God's 'prophets' (none of their predictions has come to pass, so they are all FALSE prophets).

You have posed an interesting question, and the root of their sentiments (the fervent 'Sanitarium' supporters) lies within THIS conundrum that I speak of.
They dismiss Ron Paul as 'unelectable' because he does not wear his 'religion' on his sleeve, and the other two are total NWO globalists (but Santorum is, as well, if you examine his voting record, and not his 'smooth words').

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Simple

To vote for Santorum I believe you have to be very "socially conservative".

The man openly admitted to voting for planned parenthood in a national debate because he was told to. I personally do not see how anyone in any kind of right mind could vote for him based on that alone. Especially if you are socially conservative. He has openly rejected libertarianism with hostility. He believes government can plan the economy. He thinks if you get married all the worlds problems end. He supports a war with Iran. He supported no child left behind, medicare part D, and the "war on terror". His favorite hobby is raising the debt ceiling. He wants to ban porn. He supported Bush in everything. He is the least "electable" one of all of them including Obama(independents hate him like Gingrich).

And the best reason not to vote for him. His daughter is beyond ugly. Am I right?

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Step one: LISTEN

Step TWO: Listen some more.

Step THREE: Ask, "so is this what you are saying?"

Step FOUR: Listen some more

Step FIVE: Find common ground on something, ANYTHING.

Step SIX: Explain the principle behind the thing you both agree on.

Step SEVEN: Listen

Step Eight: Listen and smile

Step Nine: Apologize that you cannot agree on more things, you know, because of the ONE principle we both agree on.

Step Ten: Listen and give it time, days, weeks, months. Let the principle do the work. I find that a principle is like a slow "freedom drug" and it takes time to cure the mind and body.

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Santorum's voting record

He says he had to "take one for the team" but he actually digs ugly chicks.

Ahem, I mean he digs out of control spending and waste, loves the police state, and hates guns and freedom. He votes like a Democrat when it's not a religious issue.

We need Ron to save the GOP, while he's also saving the nation!

Paul Ryan and the other poseurs are cribbing from Ron Paul, with a milquetoast Ron-Paul-Lite budget proposal, the first from Republicans in a decade that actually contains cuts. But they don't go far enough. We need to decimate the USGov literally, make it 1/10 its current size.

Take back the GOP and Restore America Now.

Send them this ULTIMATE TEA PARTY TRUTH BOMB!

It's a guide I made for Tea Party folks, full of links to informative and hard-hitting videos and articles, so they can educate themselves on why Dr. Paul is the best choice. Just copy and paste it into an email and send it to the Tea Partier in your life :)

http://www.dailypaul.com/223906/ultimate-tea-party-truth-bomb

Easy. Get them to watch this:

If they are Christians, they will be greatly challenged by the truth in this video series:

http://www.dailypaul.com/197841/the-bible-and-ron-paul-video...

If they are not Christian, who knows why they support Santorum, they must be insane and so there is not help for those folks.

Actually, a serious question is: do you know ANY non-Christian folks that support Santorum? I suggest it is all about targeting the religious issues concerning those supporters.

"If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone." - Romans 12:18

Brilliant article that explains why we love Dr. Paul:
http://lewrockwell.com/orig12/farber-r1.1.1.html

Winning the GOP nomination may be the only way

to convert some of them.

Send them to Colonel Douglas MacGregor.

Santorum didn't start rising in the polls until he attacked Ron Paul on foreign policy, particularly "nuclear Iran". Colonel MacGregor, Lt. Colonel Anthony Shaffer and Michael Scheuer provide credible backing to Ron Paul's position, as does the Republican Chairman of the House Intelligence Committee.

You also might want to mention in passing that they are paying nearly $4.00/gallon for gas largely because of oil speculation driven by the uncertainty of US policy towards Iran.

First thing is to find out

First thing is to find out why Santorum supporters support Santorum. Is he the most electable candidate that can defeat Obama? Nobody seriously believes that. Is his economic plan going to get us out of the recession? I doubt 9 out of 10 Santorum supporters can describe anything about his economic plan. Is Santorum's record attracting voters due to his adherence to limited government and conservatism? Obviously not, b/c anyone that has looked at his record knows it is abysmal.

So why has Santorum gotten so much support? The data repeatedly shows voters believe he is the "moral character" and "values" candidate:
http://www.nolanchart.com/article9470-why-santorum-is-ahead-...
I know it's hard to believe voters are so stupid to vote for perceived personality over policy and record (actually, it's not so hard to believe) but there you have it.

So when speaking to a Santorum supporter, find out of that is the reason he/she supports him (really, what the hell other reason is there?) and if so, talk about Paul's moral character and values. Examples from the article:

- Ron Paul has 5 children and 18 grandchildren and has been married to the same woman since 1957
- Worked on his family farm as a boy picking raspberries and retrieving milk bottles
- Was a high school athlete that wrestled, won the Pennsylvania championship in the 220-yard dash, and was offered a full athletic scholarship to the University of Pittsburgh
hit the only home run over the fence in the history of the Congressional baseball series
- Had a pilot's license and served as a flight surgeon in the Air Force and U.S. Air National Guard
- In his medical practice, accepted no federal money and delivered free health care to the poor for many years. Grateful patients would sometimes feel obliged to repay him with chickens or vegetables from their gardens
- Delivered a baby at no charge for an interracial couple that was facing discrimination

That's the first hurdle to overcome. If they are won over by Paul's moral character and values but still feel foreign policy and defense is a hurdle, put out that America will have have soon have NO money left over for defense and Ron Paul is the only candidate serious about making cuts:
http://www.nolanchart.com/article9181-the-wmd-ignored-by-all...

emazur ,..Paul's moral character and values

GREAT POST!

Thanks.

1 more

Thanks to all of these awesome suggestions there is 1 less santorum supporter and 1 more Ron Paul supporter.

Show them this video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68yGJMUwd5k

Pay attention starting at 2:30. Santorum redefines "conservative" as anti-individual. Historically it's always been the Democrats who attack individualism. Santorum is a frightening collectivist, exactly like Democrats.

He's also rabidly anti-gun.

Speaking in general, it's really astonishing and frightening that gun rights are OFF THE TABLE for the 2012 GOP presidential primary.

It seems like the only pro-gun activist at the national level is Sen. Rand Paul. Not a peep from the NRA. Of course, the NRA hasn't been faithfully pro-gun in quite a while.

State gun rights and TEA Party activists, meanwhile, are tying to enact Constitutional Carry, but are being thwarted by Republican party "leadership" including a veto from a Republican governor of a Constitutional Carry bill passed by the legislature.

Rick Santorum is OUT TO GET YOUR GUNS. No bullsh*t.

Take back the GOP and Restore America Now.

Rick Santorum is OUT TO GET YOUR GUNS.

Thanks Old Poor Richard

just a copy so as BUMP this issue before viewers here

it looks like rickie boi is as much a flip flopper
as any rommie kid.

You can tell the dog not to eat out of the cat's litterbox, but

A. He won't listen or doesn't understand what you're saying.
B. He likes the taste.

Let them hear Santorum

He does either lie or makes no sense, and turns on the "I will do every thing for America" every time he is squeezed and have no rational answer, as Dr. Paul put it "It's all just talk".

Those with brains will see through..

Wow there is alot

Wow there is alot of good ideas here.

Shoot em...

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That may be the only way. Any

That may be the only way. Any other attempts to convince them would be condemned as the "devil's word".

Stop feeding the propaganda machine. Turn off your TV.

Start by making new friends.

It's time you found some Ron Paul Republican friends to hang out with, date, double date... join and participate in Meetups... make events at your meet up. Write letters to editors, get busy supporting Ron Paul or becomming a delegate, or phone banking.

It's important that you strive to be HAPPY no matter what.

This will cause your old friends to look for you and wonder, "What's up with Drew D and why aren't they bothering me about Ron Paul?". You need them to come to you if you are going to convert them.

When they come to you, you need to really be busy doing things for Ron Paul rEVOLution, so you can honestly tell them why you are not seeing them, "I'm really busy, doing a sign wave for Ron Paul tomorrow and have a couple of hours of phone banking to do. I met a real nice person who likes Ron Paul as much as me, and I'm Sooooo HAPPY!!!"

This will make your friends think that maybe they are missing the boat. Sionce this is true, you're doing them a big favor. Don't call them. If they don't call you... it's OK (that new friend should come in handy) When they do call you the second time, tell them truthfully, "Well, I've been so busy helping the Ron Paul campaign beat the other two chumps and the suckers who follow them, I haven't been able to call you... but hey, I'm going to a Meetup training for delegates and if you want to join me, you can meet my new friend too".

They will say, "Oh that's OK, no thanks. Don't call them for a week. After one week call them and say, "Hey, I've only got a minute, I'm so busy, I have met three awesome people, and one of them reminded me of how much fun we used to have before I found Ron Paul and joined him to Restore America.. man you are totally missing out. Hey, Sorry to hear Santorum dropped, but gee, Ron Paul is awesome and you're welcome to join me and my new friends because I really do miss you and think you would really like this. Come check it out.

They will.

GOOD LUCK!

Awesome

Awesome work, lot of good input.

From my experience...

The best way is to find common ground on fiscal issues. Work outward from there, and be very understanding. Emphasize where you agree with them, that way their mental defenses don't go up. Once you hit the social issues (and you will) bring up Santorum's funding of Planned Parenthood. If they continue on the social issues, try to steer the conversation towards the Constitution, and emphasize that and states' rights.

Explain to them that Paul's states' rights positions would allow states to ban gay marriage (but you don't need to tell them that it would never happen. >:D), and also point out his stance on Roe V Wade. Bonus points for 4,000 babies delivered with no abortions performed. :D

I guess your friends are pro-life right?

Ask them how they can be pro life but be ok with killing children over there in the middle east..and show them pictures you can print up of those dead children..(sick & twisted..maybe but it proves a point)

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Sadly, that wouldn't phaze most of them.

We killed lots of German and Japanese children in WWII and Americans justify it because most Americans believe we were right to be involved in that war. Until you convince Republican voters that the war in Iraq was unnecessary, showing them pictures of "collateral damage" will be easily shrugged off as the "necessary evils" of defending this country against radical Islam.

Axis powers were legitimate enemy

The U.S.'s indiscriminate slaughter of civilians including children is what radicalizes Muslims, turns them into America-haters. It would do the same for me, or for any sane person.

I believe that Americans are so intoxicated by this temporary hegemonic empire that they are blind to the fact that it is going to end very badly for us if we don't pull our troops home and recapture the high moral ground by engaging in diplomacy and trade with Eastern countries instead of warfare.

I think Americans today are as insane as dutiful Germans were as they chafed under the excesses of the Nazi regime yet still supported their rogue government.

We should fear a surprise coalition of international forces against our military and against the Western banking regime more than we should fear the uprising of fundamentalist dirt farmers.

Take back the GOP and Restore America Now.

Yeah but.

Those kids would have grown up to hate Jews!!!
They're not of God over there you know. (Someone actually said this to me).

What are we supposed to do, Just let the terrorists win!!
Not like the patriot act/FISA didn't give the terrorists their biggest win yet right.

Arguing facts vs. stupidity is pointless sometimes

Yes

They are pro life.

If faith is the issue...

I have found this video helpful from 2008. Ron Paul is speaking at Liberty University--a Christian college--and gives a testimony to his faith:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTU6o4X7fF8

Check out http://iroots.org/
"If you’re into political activism, at least for Ron Paul if not for anyone else, I strongly recommend spending some time with iroots.org." - Tom Woods

This is fantastic! I wish I

This is fantastic! I wish I had seen it sooner. I also like using this http://www.ronpaul2012.com/the-issues/ (total reading time is 4-5 min) or, if they won't read all 11 issues, the "abortion" and "statement of faith" ones are great. Also, the "homeschool" one where that applies. The other one I have used is the youtube blowback one very similar to this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmK8u6FZf4w&feature=related and the "Life" ad https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkAsLPrnJGc and "Staying on the right path" ad https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_qBSow4FrE and the "Imagine" ad http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sI0etqzbqDM

I wish

more social conservatives would watch this.

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Use the Parable of the Wise and the Foolish Builders

Ask them, and help them to compare Ron Paul's political stand and action over the last forty years and its fruitage today among the People, versus his opponents', including Santorum :

What have they done before the People (congress and votes) ?

What have they said (Constitution values defended and past campaigns) ?

What have they stood for and with whom (buddies' vs. grassroots) ?

What are the remnants of those actions and words among the People today (2012 campaign) ?

Ron Paul is the Wise Builder, the others are the Foolish ones :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable_of_the_Wise_and_the_Foo...

Though Ron Paul's today's mission is not to build, but to REBUILD what has been suffering an ever accelerating destruction :

to RESTORE America.

'Hope this helps,

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