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HELP! When asked at my county caucus who I support (as a delegate)...

...Should I just say "UNDECIDED?"

I've heard that at some caucuses, MANY "undecideds" have been elected while Paul delegates are not.

I would love to get up there and make a big speech saying why I'm an avid Paul supporter, but then I might lose a lot of votes.

As long as the Paul supporters there KNOW who I am (and vote for me), then would this be a good strategy to try to get more votes?

The OTHER option would be to say (since these establishment-republicans are so gung-ho on militarism), that "I support the ONLY candidate who is a veteran of the U.S. Military."

Any thoughts will be useful.

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At my caucus in WA state

We all had to sign a Presidential Preference sheet. RP supporters got to all the precinct tables early and brought the donuts. My precinct had 5 people show up. 3 of us knew we were for Ron so we were guaranteed the majority but turns out the other 2 were Paul also. I was preparing 2 short statements. One where I would make generic Republican statements about unseating Obama and the need for fiscal conservativeness if there were more GOP others, and one for Ron Paul specifically if we had the majority at the table. Well with all Paul, 3 of us worked out who would take the 3 delgates slots for our precinct. We go back to County in a few weeks and should deliver the most Paul delegates to state for our county.

You must follow your heart.

I was a Ron Paul bound delegate in 2008, there was no issue for me.
It is a reasonable strategy in politics to lie about how one feels on any given issue to win an elected position. If you wish to have a career in politics, it is never to early to start lying. It has been my experience that politicians who say they hold "Ron Paul" type values are perhaps the best liars of all, and I guess that means we are winning.
I don't do politics any more, myself.

Love or fear? Chose again with every breath.

Back in 2008

Back in 2008 I was advised to not talk about Ron Paul at all during my speech, and that is the only reason I got to go to Minnesota. Had the crowd known I supported Ron Paul there is 0% chance I would have made it. Instead during my speech I talked about my youth and how I would be the future of their ideas and that seemed to go over well with the generally older crowd.

In my state it was only really implied who you would have to support based on the number of openings available for each candidate. I entered as a Romney delegate but only by the fact that the openings were for Romney, so there was never really a need to deceive.

The organization within my state in 2008 was quite impressive, and with their direction as to what should/shouldn't be discussed I believe we had one of the highest percentage of RP supporters elected as delegates in the 50 states at the Convention. It was really important to get involved with as many others as possible within the caucus districts and beyond, because somebody was eventually going to know what to do. That is how we succeeded, through the broad network of knowledge, ideas and tactics shared within the group.

Anybody But Obama

I sense many of you who want to volunteer to be delegates have never been to a local GOP meeting, that's unfortunate because that would have helped quite a bit... anyway if you've ever been to one you'd quickly find out that these people are clueless outside of Fox News and "anybody but Obama" is pretty much their rallying cry.... if you say that you'll have no problems.

Use the new buzz word...

Tell them you support a "Legitimate Republican." Give a little wink and stress how you support a pro-life Republican that will keep us safe from terrorism.

Ron Paul meets all of those qualifications.

It depends on your crowd.

For me, I told them I was undecided, then I talked about how much our views aligned (in contrast to the Statist I was up against). Then I gave this speech:

I would like your vote & support to be our alternate delegate to the GOP convention in Florida.

I will support:
The candidate who best represents the people of Hot Springs County and their strong principled beliefs of honesty, integrity, individualism, & freedom.
The candidate who consistently gets A+ ratings from 2nd amendment supporting organizations.
The candidate who has the best chance to beat Obama by bringing all republicans, independents, and democrats together like Ronald Reagan did.
The candidate who was endorsed by Ronald Reagan.
The candidate who has not and never will be bought by Banksters, Unions, Lobbyists, or any other special interest group.
The candidate who supports the Bill of Rights.
The candidate who has never supported a national healthcare mandate in any way.
The candidate who doesn't believe in forcing any mandates on the American people.
The candidate who has never supported carbon tax mandates.
The candidate who will once again give us the freedom to educate our children as we see fit.
The candidate who actually will cut and balance the budget without cutting Social Security.
The candidate who doesn't believe the President should have the power to detain and assassinate American citizens without arrest, trial, or charges being filed against them.
The candidate who has never lost a congressional election.
The candidate overwhelmingly supported by our troops.
The candidate who has never compromised his beliefs by voting to give money to Planned Parenthood because he was trying to "get along".
The candidate who has taken his oath to support the Constitution seriously.
The candidate who has always been Pro Life.
The candidate who votes for what is right.
The candidate not interested in power, but rather, in fixing our problems.
The candidate who will cut regulations on small business.
The candidate who will get the Federal government out of Wyoming's Wolf issues.
The candidate who will allow people to grow, sell, and trade agricultural products as they see fit.
And finally, the candidate that will be Honest with the American people, a trait that has been missing in the oval office for quite awhile. Thank you.

Beat him by 1 vote. Not bad considering he's lived here 30 years, me - 10 months.

He lost in 1974.

In his first election he lost to the incumbent in the primaries. He then won a special election in 1976 when the incumbent was given a position in the administration.

Otherwise a great list and an excellent speech.

"Jesus answered them: 'Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is a slave to sin. The slave does not remain in the house forever; the son remains forever. So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.'" (John 8:34-36)

It depends on who is most popular

in your State or District. I would probably say Undecided and still up in the air between the SECOND most popular and Ron Paul (just to avoid throwing too many delegates in the frontrunner's basket). Any RP supporters there will then know you are with them and you'll get their support, too, along with the clueless supporters of the other guy.

Then, if asked to speak, you can use talking points of the other guy that parrot RP's talking points and say that since both stand for the same things, you haven't quite decided yet.

“It is the food which you furnish to your mind that determines the whole character of your life.”
―Emmet Fox

How about: "Whichever

How about:

"Whichever candidate wants to cut spending, taxes, and the overall size of the government the most."

Just simply tell them...

...that you want to be a part of the election process, and by doing so it will help you make the decision that you need to make. Technically, that isn't a lie!

I would say anyone but Obama.

I would say anyone but Obama. The sheep seem to get all wet over that one.

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere".

It's hard not to be a menace to society when half the population is happy on their knees. - unknown

I'd tell them Ron Paul

I don't get this business of LYING. Ron Paul isn't a liar, why should you be? Seems to me those who LIE and say someone else, are not really for Ron paul, but for destroying the GOP in the name of Ron Paul. Not good.

I won my seat by telling the truth.

Don't lie, just stress other important issues

You can say uncommitted, and stress that you want Obama out, In our county caucus, we shouldn't have had to discuss who we supported, but neither did we want to mislead people who directly asked us either. There were 2 people in our caucus that got chosen as delegates, who stated they were uncommitted, (not from my group) but if you look also for unifying points that you know others will get behind you on, its a really good thing. In our group, the Ron Paul supporters became delegates even though they mentioned him in their comments- for example I mentioned something about upholding the traditional republican values of the party in my speech. Try to focus on things that you know will appeal to others who may not support Dr Paul, so you will get more votes. The truth is their platform is really good for the most part, its just that they don't really adhere to their own principals.

That Depends on Who Hasn't Dropped Out By Then

Are you an inspirational speaker? If you're a great speaker, make the case for Ron Paul, and if you don't make it, let some other Ron Paul supporter make it.

If you're an average speaker, get up there and talk about yourself, and why you are motivated to participate, and especially what you're willing to do ("I will walk door-to-door in my precinct to make sure someone better than Obama gets into office.") Members will vote for someone like that because they want to encourage you to do the work (either for them or with them).

Don't lie.

Contact the local campaign and find out what they advise. Obviously, it hurts to have too many Ron Paul delegates running and splitting the vote.

What do you think? http://consequeries.com/

Just say you support getting Obama out of office

Just say you support getting Obama out of office, that should loosen them up and let them know you are committed to the party (even though you're not). Its the same thing as saying undecided but it will sound way better to them.

One can be committed to the GOP

as the GOP changes



You can't get clean in a dirty bathtub.

I LIKE THAT "Sevendst19" !!!

Great idea.

"We have allowed our nation to be over-taxed, over-regulated, and overrun by bureaucrats. The founders would be ashamed of us for what we are putting up with."
-Ron Paul

I think I would say

"I am supporting a Republican" and leave it at that,Lol.

If I disappear from a discussion please forgive me. My 24-7 business requires me to split mid-sentence to serve them. I am not ducking out, I will be back later to catch up.


Lie...it's for freedom and this is war.


Lie and say Newt

Really. They are starting to play dirty now. Did you read the thread about Lexington, KY?

Yes - I saw the Lexington thing.

AND I saw the Washington State thing too.

That's why I think undecided is the way.

What would saying Newt do for my chances?

I might as well totally lie and say Romney.

But you might be "BOUND" to the candidate you choose.

I don't know.

"We have allowed our nation to be over-taxed, over-regulated, and overrun by bureaucrats. The founders would be ashamed of us for what we are putting up with."
-Ron Paul

"undecided" is NOW code word for Ron Paul....except

everyone knows the code. Romney it is (cross your fingers behind your back or in your pocket...nullifies the lie LOL)

Maybe EVERY Ron Paul delegate should just say "Romney."

But all the Ron Paul supporters present had better know damn well who the Paul people are.

Maybe we could have some common code like scratch our heads above our right ear or something.

"We have allowed our nation to be over-taxed, over-regulated, and overrun by bureaucrats. The founders would be ashamed of us for what we are putting up with."
-Ron Paul