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To all who want to be delegates, beware: GOP has advanced onto their Plan B

We have to lie and say we aren't R.P. supporters. If you have to email anyone to get on a list of wanting to be a delegate, make all of your social media private to friends only. Take off any political profile pictures. If you are young, put a picture of your dog or car up! They are getting scared and are doubling down on R.P. supporters. We have to fight back twice as hard. If you have to make a speech and want to say something about the fed, say you are a Newt supporter and are in favor of auditing the fed. Some places are going to stop being friendly to "undecideds"-that has become code word for R.P. I am getting this info from some of my facebook friends I play games with. They are not close friends and I'm not sure which states most of them live in.

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Lying, in this case, is NOT

Lying, in this case, is NOT immoral. Remember the principle.

Through whatever combination of complacency, idiocy, or corruption, the very heart and soul of the nation--The Constitution and Declaration, are under severe attack.

Lift your heads and be of good chear, as you do what you must to preserve our Freedoms and the Rule of Law which was designed to preserve them!

Even if a few of you are motivated by legalized weed, or whatever, in this effort, you truly are serving your fellow man--And ALL of the world, because NONE of it would have known freedom, as it has, without this great nation.

Be of good cheer, and have a full purpose of heart in this cause! Freedom IS of God--And if Atheist: It is the most kind and just and profitable way of dealing with your fellow man.

We may be dumb as sheep, but we herd like cats, and are more clever than monkeys. What sane person would think us cattle?

crawl on broken glass...

pretty much sums it up. and frankly, we may get an "opportunity" to do just that...

That will be hard...

I'm a Dr. Paul delegate carpooling to the state convention with two Romney delegates...

Pretty sure priority one is denying Santorum delegates.

Please keep the noise down

> I am getting this info from some of my facebook friends I play games with. They are not close friends and I'm not sure which states most of them live in.

I think this says it all. Please evaluate where YOU live and get info from reliable sources. This is not a game and you should know something about the people you are working with.

I personally may have lost my chance as a delegate because I am pro-choice. The local GOP is not. Should I have lied? No. We are waging a moral battle. The GOP got where it is by making these moral compromises.

It's not a lie

Great Advice here,
Just remember it's not a lie if you have your fingers crossed behind your back when you say it.

I live in Santorum zone. So

I live in Santorum zone. So I am anyone but Romney.

I'd sympathize, but I live in Gingrich country

:(

A little of their own medicine

I guess I'm getting too old as I just cannot tell a bald faced lie and I cannot stomach saying I am a Gingrich supporter. My first stint as a delegate was many years ago and was where I learned how both sides cheated and schemed to get the weakest link on the opposing ballot to make a better run for our candidate. I became physically ill and decided I could not go along with the dirt! I would imagine a RP supporter might mislead the others by being serene and nonchalant but that would take some great acting! GOOD LUCK! GO WITH GOD. He can make your true colors invisible to the "enemy".

Carol J Goodwin

Key word: "I want."

I *want* to vote for Romney, Santorum, or Gingrich. As in, I would really like them to be someone I could vote for. Unfortunately, none of them are good and honest men, so I *will* vote for Ron Paul. There, no lying necessary. :-)

Disregard government. Acquire liberty.

See...

See...all you need is some creative thinking. No lying necessary. Great job!

How about this?

Tell them you want a candidate that is pro-life, has a strong national defense position, and supports the free market. THEN state that you agree with a lot of what [insert candidate of choice here] says. It's true - I agree with a lot of what they all SAY - I just disagree with their proposed policies. XD Instant Santorum or Romney delegate.

That's pretty good What's

That's pretty good
What's that scripture in the bible that says to be wise as serpents but gentle as doves?

Keep in mind, the police lie to get confessions from suspects &

its legal for them to do, condoned. Thats been on at least 2 Law & Order episodes.

For some reason, we're expected to know every law that exists in America & in our state so we don't break it. We're supposed to know this when we're 18. There's no litmus test for them, as in the 10 commandments or rhyme or reason. C.U.R.E.

No need to lie

We use the rules, cunning and overwhelming numbers. Truth and transparency are what we are trying to bring to government, not lies and two facedness. The caucuses and conventions need to be exposed to this. We win more people over when they see us blatantly discriminated against and disenfranchised then we do if we sneak in deceive people and steal delegate spots.

If we use the ends justify the means argument what have we become?

We don't need to lie but we must be smart about what we say and do.

Just say your looking for the

Just say your looking for the best candidate to prove themselves with the trouble this country is facing and that most americans are having a tough time with all the candidates presented. You don't want Newt. You don't agree with everything each one says, And actually mean it. There, your not lying...

Wow! I feel Like a politician!

Re-posted this...

This thread is trash

Dr. Paul would certainly disagree with lying to further his cause.

I find it cute that so many who are against lies of

omission, outright lying and so on have no idea what other campaign plans are in action, sanctioned by the campaign that are..let's just say, not quite upfront lol

All of those who understand WHY it's a good idea and would do anything to further the cause of actual liberty, keep doing what you're doing and keep converting those to your way.

There were more than a few Christian Patriots during the Revolutionary war that killed others for their Liberty.

Give me Liberty or Give me Death didn't mean for us to lay down and die as the only option.

Patriot Cell #345,168
I don't respond to emails or pm's.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=qo8CmO...
Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution, inevitable.

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Lie and pretend to be someone else?

Er..

Thanks, but ...

NO. Thanks.

NEVER.

EVER.

That is our VERY pride to be in the camp that chose Liberty.

That is MY pride anyway.

If I had to dump everything off of my ego, but for just one bit to spare, that'd be IT.

Lie and pretend?

I'd rather be shot in the name of Liberty.

If only for my kids to know WHY.

Sincerely,

"Cyril" pronounced "see real". I code stuff.

http://Laissez-Faire.Me/Liberty

"To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous." -- Confucius

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But again, that's just my mileage

I am really not into politics, or ideologies, or whatnots.

Maybe because I've been fed up, indoctrinated by deceitful teachers following their administration's agenda, with millions of other french kids and students struggling to understand what the heck the crap was all about, and what for. Why so much effort and public funds spent to dumb us down.

That leaves you with bruises (mentally).

So, once you see someone else speak the truth against the rest of the worldwide Cabal, well, you just can't pretend you were not craving for that courage to happen somewhere thru someone eventually.

You support it with all your soul because you KNOW what the stakes are REALLY ABOUT.

EVIDENCE ? Use "the SOURCE", Luke :

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2011/sep2011/fran-s30.shtml

(poor lovelies ... they had to go on strike ... again. You know, to defend their students access to knowledge ... Yeah, right.)

These "public servants" HAVE :

* a job FOR LIFE (though some govs tried hard not to renew all positions after retirements, triggering recurring protests in the street)
* HAVE numerous "Unions" (90% of which, if not more, LEFT WING)
* ARE PAID while on strike
* HAVE bank loans preferences (because they are in the administration)
* HAVE homeownership or renting facilitating options (by their administration, again)
* TAKE their teaching programs FROM THE MINISTRY OF EDUCATION, their administration, EXCLUSIVELY

DO I need to say more?

"Cyril" pronounced "see real". I code stuff.

http://Laissez-Faire.Me/Liberty

"To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous." -- Confucius

I am a primary state

Somehow I made it as alternate for district (no one asked me who I voted for at the county convention). I do have a hard time lying, so one thing I did was go to my states GOP website when they held the straw poll, and voted for one of the other candidates, and put in my small donation to the GOP. The one I voted for on the GOP website was the one who ended up winning my state, so it will be easy to tell them that is who I voted for. Naturally in the primary I voted for Ron Paul.

My district will be holding interviews, and now I'm glad I did what I did just to make it easy on myself. It's not just a matter of not liking to lie, it's a matter that I'm not very good at it, and know I will give myself away, unless I have some truth I can play with... then I am fine.

I hope this helps someone that is like me that is just not good at lying, but can bend the truth ever which way I need to :)

I don't condone lying to any one,I wasn't raised that way ......

But everyone here didn't come all this way, raised all this money and was involved in all this campaigning for nothing..
It's call Strategy, and this is the last chance we may have to take back our country ..It's been long over due and our forefathers would have been shooting by now, not lying to protect this great nation...
So what do we do?, raise up our hands and say we are done here ,we give up!....No!,but if we go in all deck out in Ron Paul shirts, pins, signs, etc.,we might as well stay home,and give up, because they will stop us and will not give Ron Paul a honest chance at this Presidency...
If we don't start being creative and play their game for now,they will control the out come ..
we are up against some desperate individuals in the GOP and in that case!!,the whole political game and they don't like to play fare either...
So in return we should be desperate to fright for what we believe in, because our passion is so strong but our numbers are so many , we can't just let them just walk all over us, while at the same time telling the world who is going to be our next President.
it's called disclosure,were not disclosureing nothing to you, so look at my Mitt Romney button and have a nice day ..

"Observe the masses,and do the opposite."

Don't forget to unlike and like

If you are on Facebook, at least, "like" the other candidates pages as well... possibly "unlike" the good Ron for a minute...

Just a thought.

no need to unlike Dr Paul

just "like" a few of the others to confuse those who would use that information against you.

The government doesn't lie, it engages in 'disinformation' --George Carlin

Truth, Justice and the American way.

This is a war

When you are fighting for your life against enemy opposition, guerilla tactics should be utilized.

"Loyalty's worth more than wealth...in a world where...people be all for self."

When you are fighting for your life against enemy opposition

"When you are fighting for your life against enemy opposition..."

and we ARE
this is as close to getting FREE again as we have been
since the first revolution.
whatever it takes to get FREE again and this time
treasure and protect it MORE.

eternal vigilance !

I don't see

What is the big deal when someone ask me who I support. I mean I can say Romney, and then "Change my mind"... as long as I'm not pledging, I don't see the big deal XD

Okay, unless there's a rule that states specifically "If you change your mind after saying something non-binding, you're not allow to take that back or you'll be spanked!"... then I would end up with some pain in the ass, but it'll be worth it :D

"Earth provides enough to satisfy every man's need, but not every man's greed."~Mahatma Gandhi
Quick Humorous Satire course on Ron Paul: http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_65316&...

The art of war is through deception

AND posturing AND fine trickery, the Prophet Muhammmad, among others.

Even Abraham, that truthful one, had to lie to escape the Babylonians. Come'on people, it's a war. Do whatever works.

Right before you open your mouth..

Remember all of the bullshit they've put Dr.Paul through.. All of the dirty tactics to nullify our voices. Just take a moment to reflect upon why we're doing this in the first place and the importance it holds to you.

I for one am against taking a persons life too but if they're going to try to take mine or that of the people I love, they're up the creek, if they think I won't do it.

Patriot Cell #345,168
I don't respond to emails or pm's.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=qo8CmO...
Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution, inevitable.

Just saw a video on another post and the guy says,

"Second rule of politics--everyone lies."
That guy said it all in one sentence. If you honorable people out there have a problem with lying back at the enemy, you are forgetting another famous saying-"All is fair in love and war". This is war and we are going to lie them under ground!
Dr. Paul is honorable and shall remain honorable, but we are his soldiers and I have no problem with playing their game back at them.

http://www.dailypaul.com/223310/breaking-secret-video-of-hos...

Just say your looking for the

Just say your looking for the best candidate to prove themselves with the trouble this country is facing and that most americans are having a tough time with all the candidates presented. You don't want Newt. You don't agree with everything each one says, And actually mean it. There, your not lying...

Wow! I feel Like a politician!