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Updated November 1, 2012: Some of us have worked thru the book of Proverbs during the Month of October. I desire to continue in November on the topic of Thankfulness. I need to be content in all things and daily offerings on thankfulness will no doubt be a blessing to me and maybe others. The concept of thankfulness is liberating when negativity is cast aside. Please feel free to journey along and contribute as you are inspired.
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I have been challenged to read 1 chapter in Proverbs each day. As I read Chapter 29, I found a verse that speaks profoundly of Ron Paul's character and a statement of why our country is in the situation it is in:

Verse 4: "The king by judgment establisheth the land: but he that receiveth gifts overthroweth it."

Of course we do not have a king, but the principle is the same. Those that cozy up with special interests ruin a country.

Thank you Ron Paul, for not entertaining lobbyists!
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Najam has asked me to keep this post alive so I am attempting to do that. Join in if you like.
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2 Corinthians 13:11
Finally, brethren, farewell. Be perfect, be of good comfort, be of one mind, live in peace; and the God of love and peace shall be with you.




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Yes, I had that thought too

Yes, I had that thought too about some of the foolishness that arises here!

It is sad that God's Word has been twisted and used wrongly. I have been thinking often of Matthew chapters 5, 6, 7...what would it have been like if people, me, actually lived the way Jesus spoke in his sermon? What a different world this would be after 2000 years! Love vs. Hate?

I have to say, I felt a bit guilty after throwing single verses out for your consumption so I “needed” to get the context. I should have offered context to start with. I was glad you brought it to my attention.

Have a great day!

A two thousand year habit

It is the habit of just about everyone to find one line or verse to explain a certain idea, so don't feel bad about that, it is just a common thing to happen over the many years. But sometimes when you read the whole story the sentence actually changes in intended meaning. I am just one of those that feel not everything can be justified or explained by one sentence from the scriptures. If one was to use this reasoning an answer right or wrong can be found for everything in life even if it is taken out of context in order to support it. One could actually take any lengthy book and do the exact samething and claim it as gospel because one sentence can be found in it somewhere to support the argument. "It is to be the color blue", What is to be colored blue? Why is it to be colored blue? for example. The reason why the verse or passage was used is to me more important than the one sentence. All too often I see them used out of context to support an argument, The sentence is not always used as it was originally intended in the whole story. Just human nature to do this out of habit and I understand this. In turn I have also found that a supporting sentence can be even more powerful towards the exact same message if the whole paragraph including the one sentence was used instead. This is the real challenge.

If I disappear from a discussion please forgive me. My 24-7 business requires me to split mid-sentence to serve them. I am not ducking out, I will be back later to catch up.

ATruepatriot said

"I am just one of those that feel not everything can be justified or explained by one sentence from the scriptures."

bear says: and rightly so!

Proverbs 6:26

"For by means of a whorish woman a man is brought to a piece of bread: and the adultress will hunt for the precious life."

donvino

A Trap

Proverbs 23:28 KJV She also lieth in wait as for a prey, and increaseth the transgressors among men.

Proverbs: Oct 22 - A Good Name

Proverbs 22:1 KJV A good name is rather to be chosen than great riches, and loving favour rather than silver and gold.

Proverbs 22 Audio: http://www.biblestudytools.com/kjv/proverbs/22-audio.html

Proverbs: Oct 21 - More Acceptable to the LORD

Proverbs 21:3 KJV To do justice and judgment is more acceptable to the LORD than sacrifice.

Audio: http://www.biblestudytools.com/kjv/proverbs/21-audio.html

"The hand of the diligent shall bear rule,

but the slothful shall be under tribute." 12:24

It seems we are all under tribute?

Tribute http://www.biblestudytools.com/lexicons/hebrew/kjv/mac.html: gang or body of forced labourers, task-workers, labour band or gang, forced service, task-work, serfdom, tributary, tribute, levy, taskmasters, discomfited labour-band, labour-gang, slave gang
gang-overseers
forced service, serfdom, tribute, enforced payment
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Have we been slothful in our government?

Yes,

we are because yes, we have been.

Proverbs: Oct 20 - Lips of Knowledge

Proverbs 20:15 KJV There is gold, and a multitude of rubies: but the lips of knowledge are a precious jewel

Audio of Proverbs 20: http://www.biblestudytools.com/kjv/proverbs/20-audio.html

Ear & Eye,

+1, as before, truly weighty wisdom in the Proverb above, pointing out the value of lips that release & deliver knowledge.

Knowledge is the essential, - a quality for excellence.

In the couple of verses before -above we read about the source or medium for acquiring knowledge, as a priority. Read :12 "The hearing ear, and the seeing eye, the Lord hath made even both of them."

Here the ear is qualified with "hearing". This is emphasized repeatedly in the Revelation, = "Those who have ears - listen to what the Sfirit is saying to the churches ~".

thanks, & best wishes.

Yes,

And this in the same chapter:

Proverbs 20:5 KJV Counsel in the heart of man is like deep water; but a man of understanding will draw it out

LORD, May we have ears to hear and eyes to see, and may we also have understanding to draw out cousel.

+1, earnest call.

Psalm 86:11 (KJV) "Teach me Thy way, O Lord; I will walk in Thy Truth:
unite my heart to fear Thy Name."

Teachable

...if only there could be a return to the masses being teachable.

How many times have I prayed, "not my will, Lord, but yours." and even "it is my will that Your will be done." Usually I go on to tell Him (although he already knows) that I have so often been upside down and inside out in my thinking and that I only want to know his "ways" not mine as my ways serve neither me nor my fellow man. I submit and ask for thought adjustments. And, usually, I ask only that I be led to do the "right" thing whether I fully understand it or not.

Thank for for the Psalm reminder..however, I do not fear Him. I adore him...worship him..revere and am humbled by HIM. Not because I fear him, but because I love Him and know He loves me.

fonta

AWE = Admire + Fear + Love.

+1. Thank you for your very thoughtful post.

* re Teachable, - Rules for teaching or learning remain the same, = whether its for one person or masses.
1st thing required is Attention, i.e. lending eyes, ears & mind, = to follow, = the right sequence = 1 2 3, or A B C, etc. This is essential. If one ignores or is distracted then the learning process stops, or is disturbed.

* Be'fore the 1st, = we are asked to come clean, as babes or little lambs.. Most people already have a lot of errors or foul stuff recorded (or absorbed) in their minds, because they lent their'Self (gave attention) to those who are spreading mischief & error. You can tell when they speak or write, = its the playback of where they are coming from,- hollywood, 'new' age, 'easy' cults, etc.

* Cleaning, e.g. baptism, immersion, to wash-off, from the body, & clothes> Then drain the mind, = head or face to ground, down on Earth & humble. Thus turning them clean white, as a new page, to write, note or record worthy Words.

* Solitude, - some moments, to gather your Self, to avoid the noise, or peering eyes, re Matthew 6:6

* Stay, (do Not repeat or babble strange words as pagans) Matt 6:8, be quiet, if unsure,He already knows.

Teaching begins, after Honor of the Name.
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re Fear or Love. Both & more. You raise an important point, I thought about it too, & scrolled up & down this page and read a few more Proverbs, checked other translations, = they are unanimous in the use of the word "fear". We will not doubt or deny the wisdom of the ancients.

I even checked the dictionaries, and I guess you focused on one aspect of Awe, i.e. love, but awe includes admiration, care, reverence, fear, & love, etc. The choice of the appropriate word is important depending on the age or mental capacity of the learner.

I agree Fear can have negative connotations if misunderstood, leading to dislike, distance or disconnection. Similarly, Love can be misread by some, leading to carelessness. Therefore wrong meanings in both instances should be avoided.

When with love, you only fear losing His blessings because of disobedience ( breaking the Law). When Love is strong there is conFidence that correction will come even if it was not asked for, = there is connection & guidance. When we recognizes our error we fear the consequence (loss, pain, etc), so we cry for forgiveness.

You have a (adj?) way of saying it = "He already knows that I have so often been upside down and inside out in my thinking".

May we all find the right adjustments. Thanks & best wishes.

Edit: I had not seen or read Bear's post below, I was typing on notepad, slowly, took a lot of time. Now I will read below (]:)>

Thoughts on Love and Fear

Perhaps there is great synergy between Love and Healthy Fear?

From Psalm 86:11 (KJV) "Teach me Thy way, O Lord; I will walk in Thy Truth: unite my heart to fear Thy Name."
http://www.biblestudytools.com/lexicons/hebrew/kjv/yare.html gives the usages from Hebrew for fear.
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From Proverbs 1:7 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.
http://www.biblestudytools.com/lexicons/hebrew/kjv/yirah.html gives the usages from Hebrew for fear.
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Jesus speaking in Matthew 10:28 KJV
And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
http://www.biblestudytools.com/lexicons/greek/kjv/phobeo.html gives the usages from Greek for fear.
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Apostle John speaking in I John 4:18 There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment He that feareth is not made perfect in love.
In context: http://www.biblestudytools.com/kjv/1-john/passage.aspx?q=1-j...

http://www.biblestudytools.com/lexicons/greek/kjv/phobos.html html gives the usages from Greek for fear.
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As children of God Paul speaks: Romans 8:15 KJV
For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry , Abba, Father.
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•One of my favorites: Hebrews 4:16 KJV
Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.
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Personal thoughts: As a child, I had a healthy respect for the will of my earthly father and yet I could still sit in his lap and enjoy his love. Because he loved me he taught me right from wrong. Were he still living today, he would be due my respect because of his position as my father, and yet have my love because I am still his child. My father was not perfect so I also had an unhealthy fear of him; my God is perfect and he deserves my righteous fear because He has given me my very breath and in the end I am at his dispose, and yet I do not fear because I am in Christ and sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, all made possible by God, worthy of both my love and reverence.

Ephesians 1:13 & 14 KJV
In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.

And yet, while I rest in the knowledge and assurance of the gift of his grace, I continue to work with fear and trembling because there is nothing that compares to the weight of this serious matter of life lived for Him as spoken by Paul to others:

Philippians 2:12 KJV
Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.

and of himself:

1 Corinthians 9:27 KJV
But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.

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Thanks Bear for the Quotes

....and the wonderful depiction of how in family life we sometimes get our first impression of God the Father through our own earthly fathers. What an awesome responsibility and incredible opportunity males as fathers have!

I tend to look at much of the Old Testament as history....and an amazingly rich array of it. I doubt any collection of religious writings gives expression to such a wealth of devotion and inspirational ideas of God as the Book of Psalms... Seems to me that in Psalms, God is depicted in all phases of conception, from the crude idea of a tribal deity to the vastly expanded ideal of the later Hebrews, where Yahweh is pictured as a loving ruler and merciful Father.

Of course we were given an even greater revelation of the Fatherhood of God when his Son came and showed us the way to a life eternal as he perfectly depicted in his life the Mercy of the Son and, therefore,that of a Merciful Father.

In the New Testament, the disciples sometimes speak from an Old Testament view on things like fear.They, like us, were human and learning. In my early walk in a Southern Baptist Church, I heard much about fear. In fact perhaps I lived in it until later when I was transitioned into a new walk.

I suppose there is a place for "righteous fear" and even guilt (without which there might be little reception for forgiveness). However at my age, I do not remember Jesus ever saying Fear the Lord Your God...although perhaps some of his followers did. To me I remember his greatest commandment and, then, I hear his voice saying:
"Fear not for lo I am with you always even unto the end of the world." And beyond.

Laughing. I understand you are a minister's wife and probably well more versed than I in scripture. Still...love works for me much better than fear although I am fully capable of righteous indignation although I am working on it!

Thank you for replying to my post in such a gentle open and teaching manner.

fonta

Love

1 John 4:8 KJV
He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.
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God is Love! He just is! He does not have to try or learn it is His essence!
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One more thought on the Old Testament, it surely is a rich history and testimony of the awesomeness of God...and Jesus said:

John 5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
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One might say, The Old Testament contains a Love Story prefacing John 3:16.

It has been nice chatting with you Fonta. I might be a Pastor's Wife, but really, I am just Jeff's wife, and most importantly a Daughter of God and a Joint-Heir with Christ thru faith in his death burial and resurrection for the forgiveness of my sin. http://www.biblestudytools.com/kjv/romans/8-17.htm

Thank you for Psalm 86:11 Teach me, Thy way O Lord

2 Samuel 22:31 KJV

As for God, his way is perfect; the word of the LORD is tried: he is a buckler to all them that trust in him.

Buckler = shield http://www.biblestudytools.com/lexicons/hebrew/kjv/magen.html

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Deuteronomy 5:29 KJV

O that there were such an heart in them, that they would fear me, and keep all my commandments always, that it might be well with them, and with their children for ever!

Thank you.

I accept this for what it is and realize at the same time that many different religions and cultures have the exact same testimony as fact of human nature. It is not original to your source my friend. But it is a very important fact to consider in the least and should be respected as such. Thank you for finding a very important passage to share. Is there a passage that teaches to "Trust" those that have the knowledge? Not your Pastor but true knowledge?

If I disappear from a discussion please forgive me. My 24-7 business requires me to split mid-sentence to serve them. I am not ducking out, I will be back later to catch up.

Good Question

All passages speak of trusting in the Lord and it is the Lord gives knowledge. Anything my pastor may say is to be compared to what Scripture (The Written Word of God, the Bible) says. If the Pastor contradicts Scripture, Scripture takes president; i.e., the Scripture is right, the pastor is wrong.

Psalm 118:8 KJV
It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in man.

Psalm 146:3 KJV
Put not your trust in princes, nor in the son of man, in whom there is no help.

Proverbs 3:5-6 KJV
Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.

Proverbs 1:7 KJV
The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.

Well done.

Thank you! I will go to read what comes before and what comes after those verses because it is very important to place them into context with the rest of the story that inspired them. Thank you! (Contemplating)

If I disappear from a discussion please forgive me. My 24-7 business requires me to split mid-sentence to serve them. I am not ducking out, I will be back later to catch up.

Context

Hello ATruepatriot, yes you are correct to look before and after those verses! I have attached the links for the complete chapters if you would like them. Have a great day. I also found this verse interesting in the Proverb 20 from yesterday where our discussion began:
Proverbs 20: 5 Counsel in the heart of man is like deep water; but a man of understanding will draw it out

That says to me regarding our discussion: We are to seek counsel from others, but our trust is only to be in the Lord.

http://www.biblestudytools.com/kjv/psalms/118.html

http://www.biblestudytools.com/kjv/psalms/146.html

http://www.biblestudytools.com/kjv/proverbs/3.html

http://www.biblestudytools.com/kjv/proverbs/1.html

Audio is available at each of those links as well. Have a great day!

Proverbs: Oct 19 - Pity upon the Poor

Oroverbs 19:17 He that hath pity upon the poor lendeth unto the LORD; and that which he hath given will he pay him again.

Audio Proverbs 19: http://www.biblestudytools.com/kjv/proverbs/19-audio.html

Relevant

http://www.dailypaul.com/259451/i-met-alexander-the-great

Yeah I like Mark Twain too. I was just teasing him about his many personalities and fantastic creative writing skills. He is a challenge to read sometimes because his replies have to be deciphered. Nice to talk to you again also my friend and yes I am the same as before, No telling who I will be later though? lol.

If I disappear from a discussion please forgive me. My 24-7 business requires me to split mid-sentence to serve them. I am not ducking out, I will be back later to catch up.

"The rich rule over the poor,

"The rich rule over the poor, and the borrower is servant to the lender." - Proverbs 22:7

Love is the Answer

Thank you for stopping in. Your comment brought this verse of scripture to mind:

Romans 13:8 KJV
Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.

Off topic, but owed you.

I owe you an explanation to your question about the multiple personality comment I made. First I need to say that I have multiple personality problems. I sometimes change at the drop of a hat. This is what people like me do. Some can cover it very craftily like Twain, Write in riddles and it will not be recognized. Some have decided to sign up under 5 different user names on the DP( Which is dishonest and bugs the crap out of me,Lol). I have been here long enough to see that on that thread there were the "same" users arguing against or complimenting "Themselves", Lol. So I was honest to admit that "All" of mine are always listed at the top as the same user name. Make sense my friend? Lol.

If I disappear from a discussion please forgive me. My 24-7 business requires me to split mid-sentence to serve them. I am not ducking out, I will be back later to catch up.

Oh,

You mean people are talking to themselves and about themselves out loud and in public! What a funny thing to do. I suppose it may be a bit entertaining. I can barely keep track of my single self though. I will say, when I speak with Mr. Twain, something artsy rises to the surface. I do find it fun to speak in a character…of course it is still just under bear.

I have missed you around. Nice to see you back. Are you still an Indian hippy, or was that another personality?