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450 million bullets for 311 million Americans. Lousy aim?

The following is an excerpt from Infowars. I posit that this is the security/industrial complex that Gen. Eisenhower couldn't have dreamed about.

"Somebody out there has decided that the Department of Homeland Security needs a whole lot of ammunition. Recently it was announced that ATK was awarded a contract to provide up to 450 MILLION hollow point bullets to the Department of Homeland Security over the next five years.

Is it just me, or does that sound incredibly excessive? What in the world is the DHS going to do with 450 million rounds? What possible event would ever require that much ammunition? If the United States was ever invaded, it would be the job of the U.S. military to defend the country, so that can’t be it. So what are all of those bullets for? Who does the Department of Homeland Security plan to be shooting at? According to the U.S. Census, there are only about 311 million people living in the entire country. So why does the Department of Homeland Security need 450 million rounds of ammunition? Either this is an incredible waste or there is something that the Department of Homeland Security is not telling us."

http://www.infowars.com/why-does-the-department-of-homeland-...



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Are we the targets of target practice?

http://www.infowars.com/big-sis-needs-more-ammunition-this-t...

April 17, 2012

The Federal Government has a hunger for tax money, resources, and ammunition. We reported that the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), led by Janet Napolitano, awarded munitions manufacturer a five year contract for 450 million rounds of .40 caliber ammunition, two years after awarding Winchester munitions a five year contract for 200 million rounds .40 caliber ammunition.

This last Friday, DHS officials have put a bid out for even more ammunition, this time for the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center (FLETC).

The FLETC is headquartered at Glynco, Ga., near the port city of Brunswick, halfway between Savannah, Ga., and Jacksonville, Fla. and operates two other residential training sites in Artesia, N.M., and Charleston, S.C. However, The FLETC has oversight and program management responsibilities at the International Law Enforcement Academies (ILEA) in Gaborone, Botswana, and Bangkok, Thailand. The FLETC also supports training at other ILEAs in Hungary and El Salvador.

The ammunition requested will be sent to the Artesia site.

According to the Combined Synopsis/Solicitation, the following ammunition is to be delivered by the middle of May:

Item No . Description Qty Unit
001 .22 long rifle, 36 grains hollow point (HP) 5 TH
002 .308 175 grains match boat tail hollow point (BTHP) 1000 EA
003 .45 ACP 230 grains jacketed hollow point (JHP) 500 EA
004 .45 Colt / Long Colt, 25 grains lead 100 EA
005 .300 AAC black out, 125 grains open tip match 250 EA
006 .44 mangnum, 240 grains jacketed soft point 100 EA
007 .44 special, 240 grains lead flat nose 100 EA
008 .22 magnum, 40 grains jacketed hollow point 400 EA
009 .30-30 winchester, 150 grains soft point 100 EA
010 12 GA, # 8 bird shot 400 EA
011 .30-06, 168 grains match 500 EA

These caliber types are consistent with a variety of handguns and rifle, as if they were familiarizing new shooters on a variety of weapons, from .22 caliber to the 12 gauge shotgun, up to 100 rounds of 44 magnum ammunition.

It almost seems they are training “personnel” on how to use weapons that would be in most people’s homes.

Regardless of the reason, if asked they will never tell us the truth and this all falls under the umbrella of “National Security”.

Now don’t you feel more secure?

Thanx,

Jason

You can't get clean in a dirty bathtub.

Figured it out

Pigs in Michigan next

Then Idaho potatoes, Maine lobsters, Florida Key Lime pie....all VERY dangerous!

Thanx,

Jason

You can't get clean in a dirty bathtub.

American Holocaust or World War USA vs World

its either international war aka world war 3 or American holocaust round up certain groups and kill em.

They just might need that many and more.

After all, to quote my favorite movie, ideas are bulletproof. Probably a lot of us might be in the cross-hairs of those guns one day and we represent quite an idea.

Matthew 10:16

Last unarmed black kid shot by fat white cops took 131 slugs

From what I recall, the last unarmed black kid to be shot by a bunch of fat angry white cops took 131 slugs. So yeah, bad aim plus bad training plus steroid-charged rage = enough ammo to kill America -- literally.

"Cowards & idiots can come along for the ride but they gotta sit in the back seat!"

And a few years from

And a few years from now...

With world wide economic collapse, wars begin to break out. The United States faces attacks from foreign forces, but our forces are all overseas, and Homeland security doesn't have enough ammo due to past complaints from "the people". Everyone then begins to say, "They knew this was coming and they did nothing to prepare for it!!! They intentionally allowed us to be conquer, ALL FOR THEIR NEW WORLD ORDER. THIS WAS PLANNED ALL ALONG!!!".

There's a saying, I can't remember, it goes something like, "When all you have in your tool bag is a hammer, everything looks like a conspiracy" or something like that. Or maybe it was, "When all you listen to is Alex Jones, everything begins to look like a nail"?

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"Ehhh, What's ups Doc?" B.Bunny "Scwewy Wabbit!"E. Fudd
People's Awareness Coalition: Deprogramming Sequence

Just curious?

Are you saying we need or require a completely unneeded agency to protect us from invasion? Why can't we do it ourselves the constitutional way? Am I understanding you correctly?

If I disappear from a discussion please forgive me. My 24-7 business requires me to split mid-sentence to serve them. I am not ducking out, I will be back later to catch up.

Not saying that at all. I'm

Not saying that at all. I'm saying just what I said, when all you listen to is Alex Jones/Ventura ect, everything looks like a conspiracy. I would love to see the DHS go away, but just because the UNNEDED Dept ordered 450 million rounds to not mean "Oh no, now they're going to execute us all".

"450 million rounds for 311 million citizens", that's what I'm talking about. The mindset of that statement.

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"Ehhh, What's ups Doc?" B.Bunny "Scwewy Wabbit!"E. Fudd
People's Awareness Coalition: Deprogramming Sequence

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“Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it’s realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy.”
― Ron Paul

Ok,Roger that.

I didn't think it sounded like you, I understand and agree, thank you for the reply and clarification.Lol.

If I disappear from a discussion please forgive me. My 24-7 business requires me to split mid-sentence to serve them. I am not ducking out, I will be back later to catch up.

While I trust nothing the

While I trust nothing the government does or tells me, this isnt an "alarming" event per sae. If you think about the number of bullets, it would be about enough for a battalion of infantry Marines to go to the range every single day for 7 years. That sounds mind blowing, but its really not considering how much larger the DHS is than a battalion of Marines. So since the DHS is getting this ammo over 5 years, its not that crazy when you think about it. As a former infantry Marine and cqb instructor I can assure this ammo goes fast in training. I've personally and have seen other Marines go through over a thousand rounds in a day. Thats just one person. The number does have some shock value to it tho for sure. Before I get down voted for not being enraged about this, be assured I am. I dont think the DHS has any reason for existence other than to erode my liberty and turn my local pd's into military organizations, of which I have been a victim many times as recently as being pepper-sprayed and arrested a couple weeks ago for not showing a cop my id when he had no reason to ask for it. Im just saying, when broken down rationally, its not that shocking of a number, the DHS has close to 200,000 employes (not sure how many are fire-arm carrying agents). Ten thousand agents could blow through that ammo in a decades worth of training. Plus they have to leave some to shoot us crazies with :/

I have to return some videotapes...

Hollowpoints at the range?

I've burned up plenty of ammo at the range, but I've never wasted hollowpoints.

You hit that nail right on the head

"hollowpoints" at the range?

Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must. like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it.-Thomas Paine

The R3volution requires action, not observation!!!!

Yea, you know I didn't read

Yea, you know I didn't read hollow points until after I posted that comment. That is pretty strange. I honestly would not be surprised if they're buying the bullets to distribute to local pd's. They're giving them federal cash for just about everything else.

I have to return some videotapes...

yup, true,

but I ran some plausibles, just for fun.D

http://www.dailypaul.com/223641/450-million-bullets-for-311-...

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

Would you rather they go to

Would you rather they go to the practice range with empty guns?

Shouldn't your response be followed by

an 'evil laugh' track?

MUAHAHAHAHAH!

like that?

Evil Warlord is our resident govt & statist Devil's Advocate.

But me thinks, he's beginning to believe his own sarcasms now, as they've gotten too good for his own good.

lol

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

I would rather they not have

I would rather they not have ammunition, guns, and jobs payed for by theft.

Check out the Laissez-Faire Journal at LFJournal.com


"The State is a gang of thieves writ large." - Murray Rothbard

Right, you'd rather let

Right, you'd rather let George Zimmerman do all the law enforcin' 'round these here parts.

lol yea, because it's either

lol yea, because it's either the Gestapo or a bunch of trigger happy cop wannabes, I'm sure there couldn't possibly be anything other options.

When you refer to decent

When you refer to decent law-abiding police who are only trying to serve their communities as "gestapo", it only reflects badly on your candidate.

Why would my opinion about

Why would my opinion about the degeneration of the American domestic police reflect badly on Ron Paul?

so you DO mean that

'he' is not YOUR candidate??

So who IS yours?

Is he oBUSHma? Frothy? Mutt Wrongney, or Nut Grinch?

or... RAND Corp?

lol

dan da dunnnnnn!

hey your name is EVIL after all.

gonna say yours is oBUSHma, as he just loves destroying the Republic on behalf of his Wall St. Bankster puppet masters.

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

Obama!

Obama!

Couldn't have said it better

myself.

Thanks, EW

{sarc}

yeah, because I would much rather let

a murderous moron like Johannes Mehserle‎, who claims that he couldn't differentiate his taser holster, from his sidearm holster, even though the 'suspect' was already subdued, calm, laying helpless, "do all the law enforcin' 'round these here parts."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFNDK8PQGNw

If you think that's an exception to the rule, you haven't been paying attention. They even have a term for it, it's called a "Weapons/holster Confusion."

Your mistake is thinking and assuming that the lowest common denominator in any society would be any different just because one puts on a polyester Halloween costume and a shiny metal trinket, and the other deludes he's a self-designated neighborhood crimefighter.

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

LOL

The Halloween costume bit had me laughing out loud.

Check out the Laissez-Faire Journal at LFJournal.com


"The State is a gang of thieves writ large." - Murray Rothbard

I aim to please,

with my perplexing verbosity of unsound virtue and poor polyester thread count.o)

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul