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Charge GOP leaders who call the cops with "false reporting."

People just can't make up stories to get the cops to arrest someone. But GOP leaders in St. Charles did just that. They should be brought up on charges.




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The owner of the property must press trespassing charges. Wasn't this a school the GOP was borrowing.

IANAL, but I think the rule

IANAL, but I think the rule is that the action has to be brought by a lawful occupant of the property. Thus, if you rent a house, even though you do not own it you can kick somebody off the property whom you do not want there and who will not leave. I doubt that Mr. Dokes qualified as "lawful occupant" of the school grounds, given his position of temporary chairman of a meeting being held there. Besides, he abandoned that position when he walked away from the meeting.

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yes, it's any agent of the property owner

Any recognized agent may make the request for arrest. These might be so-called citizens arrest, where the cops simply obey the law which will state something like "if the agent for the property owner has reason to have someone removed and they refuse, then the cop must remove them".

As you say, a renter has similar authority. So too would someone renting or using a facility, like the gym.

Someone made that request. That person is liable...also, any entity with whom that person is affiliated might incur significant liability as well.

Was it an agent for the school or school district? If so, the school and/or district might have a real problem now.

All in good time

This morning I again was in contact with ACLU of Eastern Missouri---they are discussing it internally---they have an official application for representation from Ken "The CameraMan" Suitter---They are reviewing everything we sent them, video, etc.

And shortly they again will be in touch with both arrested parties.

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Wow! Excellent.

Thanks for your efforts on this.

Justice needs to be served, no doubt.

I was wondering if this was any form of voter intimidation as well?

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that's a big question

Since it's a caucus, the "other side(s)" will argue against whatever the arrested people argue. One argument will be a caucus is a private club affair...not subject to state intrusion.

So, the obvious comeback from our side will be along the lines of "yeah, so why the cops?"

I'm not a lawyer, but that essentially is where the conversation begins...where it goes from there likely would be technical.

Everyone in that gym was intimidated. Everyone was threatened with arrest, directly and repeatedly.

In my view, everyone in the state of Missouri was affected AND in fact everyone in the nation since it's a federal election.

But that's my layman view...and I've been involved in enough litigation to know it can be quite technical.

Besides, there never really has been an instance of this kind of thing...I've never seen or heard of a major party caucus being disrupted in quite this way.

California once had a primary where off duty cops were hired by a GOP campaign to work in uniform, stationed at polling places to scare away Hispanic voters...but still, the "intimidation" there wasn't quite the same as here...those cops just stood there, didn't talk to anyone and didn't arrest anyone.

That they were used to intimidate was "clear" but unprovable.

That instance is the only thing I know of even remotely close to what happened in St. Charles.

Because there are so many questions we need good lawyers to answer them for us :)

Bump

Bump it. I like this.

Anyone can request an arrest.

Anyone can request an arrest. Its up to the police to say no. Its like blaming Wall Street for getting money from the Federal Reserve. Maybe you can file multiple complaints on the arresting officers (and possibly the sheriff) and request an investigation from internal affairs. The officers in question will have to deal with their dirt if they want to further their careers. That should do the trick.

not true

it's called "false arrest."

IANAL but

The individuals who told the cops to arrest are obviously at fault. Sue their ears off. IANAL, but I think that as far as the cops go, it would depend on what they knew or should have known. I believe that to "trespass" someone, an accuser must be the proprietor of the property or his agent. Did the cops know, or should they have known, that the accuser had no authority?

The lawyers will figure it out.

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Strike "proprietor" and

Strike "proprietor" and insert "lawful occupant."

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I don't have a problem with

I don't have a problem with charging for false arrest, but its short sighted to not believe the police department is not ultimately at fault.

Why desn't someone beat them at their own game

Be the first to call the cops for them disrupting the caucus. When the cops get there, point them out. Pompous entitled mindsets like that will most assuredly resist lol. :)

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Calling the cops is never a good idea. Just because you called them does not put them on your side. Many a citizen has learned that, to their profound regret.

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Should he sue fro damages?

I would pursue civil and criminal charges.

True it is false arrest

When someone is a delegate supposed to be there and is arrested for trespassing. The have a good case against the Police department also.