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Nuclear power is NOT safe.

For those of you still arguing that nuclear power is "perfectly safe"...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiCXb1Nhd1o

Watch this documentary and then we'll talk. Even if the nuclear power debate doesn't interest you, this is still a well made, powerful documentary that covers media & government suppression of the real story.

And for the thorium advocators:
http://www.bellona.org/articles/articles_2008/thorium_unsafe

It seems not all experts agree on Thorium. It would appear that the agenda of pushing a new, more profitable nuclear power (which still has weapons potential) is a great motivator to attempt to convince the masses that it's "perfectly safe". When are we going to return from fantasyland?



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☂ Fukushima Children Question Japanese Government ☂ 09/17/201

Fukushima Children Question Japanese Government ☂ Forum submitted by Mark Twain, 09/17/2011

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Japan Japan shuts last nuclear plant; will it cope? Reuters.com

Reuters News reports Japan has shutdown its last nuclear reactor. They are now silent. They are deemed too dangerous too operate.

Japan Japan shuts last nuclear plant; will it cope? Reuters.com May, 2012
"The last one running, the No3 Tomari reactor of Hokkaido Electric Power Co in northern Japan, is scheduled to shut down early on Sunday. Anti-nuclear activists will celebrate with demonstrations over the weekend."

Reuters New article slanted reporting to, "will it cope?" They spread fear that Japan may regret forgoing nuclear waste generators. Seems Japan as a nation is standing steadfast against the nuclear power & radiation waste generators.

Reuters is doubtful... A clear message of misinforming... about clear & present danger.

Japan must stand resolute & steadfast against any fool peddling nuclear waste generating contraptions. They already have their fill of nuclear waste. Even borax is not enough to clean up the ravaged territory around the Fukushima nuclear disaster. A year has past & the damage continues to mount.

Perhaps someday in the distant future, even Reuters news will come to face its own disaster & report it correctly... And help their readers find ways out of their troubles. They might even learn to do it in a helpful spirit... As Reuters too, surely needs help with kindness.

I strongly endorse Japan's proactive call to shutdown all of their nuclear reactors.
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Pebble bed nuclear reactors are safe

The current nuclear reactors designs were made for churning out nuclear weapons fuel not for safety.

Pebble bed nuclear reactors and thorium reactors and couple other types are safe.

Just like with any engineering effort you can do things one way and achieve the desired result but with negative side effects or design them another way that eliminates those sides effects (though usually introduces some more side effects).

The design we use today works like this... if human intervention is not maintained then the whole system gets hotter and hotter until it explodes and burns.

With the other designs like pebble bed reactors if an accident happens where humans lose control or humans just simply walk away then the reactors get cooler and cooler and then shut down.

These safe types do not produce nuclear weapons fuel however.

"leak ~ nuclear power plant" San Onofre, Tonight Show, Jay Leno

“Jay Leno on nuclear leak” at San Onofre (VIDEO) 35 seconds to put you at ease.

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Hey buddy, got a dime? Buddy, an irradiated silver dime? $40.

Irradiated dime. This dime was briefly radioactive some time in the 1950's or 1960's. A museum operated in Oak Ridge used to have an exhibit, described here in detail, where visitors could have their dimes exposed to neutron radiation, which caused the silver in them to become radioactive for a few minutes. You might think the exhibit was closed due to safety or "what the hell do you think you're doing, are you crazy!?" kinds of reasons, but in fact it was forced to shut down in the mid 1960's when the US mint stopped making dimes out of silver. The neutron activation process used works only with real silver coins. I suppose by now it probably would have been shut down anyway by namby pambies who think giving visitors radioactive souvenirs is somehow a bad idea, but of course you can still find these all over eBay (something like a million were done over the years). The radioactivity lasted only a few minutes (half-life 22 seconds), so today they are perfectly safe by anyone's definition.
Source: eBay -- Acquired: 11 August, 2007
Price: $40 -- Size: 0.5" -- Purity: 90%

[Radio-activated. Nuclear Mercury-Headed.]

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Take the fear mongering elsewhere

There are enough real problems people are facing without constantly attacking the cleanest, safest, most efficient source of power that exists. All you are doing is serving big oil and the status quo.

Orders of magnitude more people die from fear of radiation than radiation itself.

"Big oil and the status quo"

"Big oil and the status quo"

"The status quo" Includes the military/nuclear industrial complex.

Take the shilling elsewhere!

Subtly, sublime sarcasm. Well done.

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That Thorium study is a HUGE red herring

because it used solid thorium pellets and did not look into moten salt reactors. The distinction is important because the processes are completely different and yield completely different energy and waste.

A lot of new work as been done since the first molten salt reactor ran 24 hours a day, 5 days a week for 4 years in 1965.

Watch LFTR in 5 minutes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uK367T7h6ZY

Liquid Flouride Thorium Reactor:

A type of nuclear reactor where the nuclear fuel is in a liquid state, suspended in a molten fluoride-based salt, and uses a separate fluid stream for the conversion of thorium to fissionable fuel to maintain the nuclear reaction.

This

IS A HUGE reason why I support Ron Paul! END THE DEPT. OF ENERGY!!!

His name is Edward Snowden

What is Capitalism?
http://youtu.be/yNF09pUPypw

Learning about LFTR fully changed my mind about nuclear energy.

Saying nuclear is not safe is like saying cars aren't safe. Some makes/models are considerably safer than others.

Russia Today does a quick segment that introduces thorium:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-k2cWD2mjhQ

This video provides specific details about the differences of LFTR from conventional nuclear power:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3EGOL4J6yI

Take special care to note that with the LFTR process, not only is there considerably more energy with considerably less waste, but that Plutonium-238 is also a byproduct -- an extremely rare material that the space program uses to explore space past the asteroid belt.

Some more good videos to watch on LFTR are:

The Liquid Fluoride Thorium Reactor: What Fusion Wanted To Be
(Google Tech Talk - November 2008)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHs2Ugxo7-8

Liquid Fluoride Reactors: A New Beginning for an Old Idea
(Google Tech Talk - Feb 2009)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8F0tUDJ35So

Energy From Thorium: A Nuclear Waste Burning Liquid Salt Thorium Reactor
(Google Tech Talk - Jul 2009)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZR0UKxNPh8

Not mine.

Not until nuclear plant operators are fully liable for death, injury and property damage.

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☠ Inherently safe? 500,000 year nuclear un-safe record. ☠

☠ 500,000 year nuclear un-safe record. ☠

Hiroshima atomic bomb Cartoon ☠ This cartoon animated film reproduced atomic bombing of Hiroshima, August 6th in 1945.

Atomic Power & related Weapons of Mass Annihilation are not safe. Operator are standing by.

Nuclear Power & Weapons safety record is recording now.

Quiet please: Recording in Progress. Staticians are compiling evidence now. Safety Record, Plutonium Edition estimated availability is year 502,012. Leather back edition, 202,911.

Please you order now! Operators are standing by. Uranium & Platinum cards accepted.

☂ Children Meet Japanese Government ☂ Submitted by Mark Twain, 2011. Short filmed official meeting where children question their government.

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Lol

Uranium & Platinum cards,Lol, Oh man, serious stuff there.

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Radiation is invisible, and it lends itself to greedy,...

selfish, and amoral people, like most politicians and the Gordon Gecko's of the world. The risks are minimized to maximize the profit.

Radioactive: Revelations on nuclear plants sound a warning
April 27, 2012 5:44 am
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That would be Joseph P. Ring, a Harvard University radiation safety officer who teaches at Harvard and the University of Massachusetts. He wrote a 37-page report that was filed Tuesday as part of federal lawsuits brought against plant operators Babcock & Wilcox Co. and Atlantic Richfield Co. by about 90 cancer victims.

The plants operated in Apollo and Parks Township from 1958 through 1984. Mr. Ring found "numerous large-scale releases of ionizing radiation into the neighboring environment" during the operating lives of the plants. The emissions added up to "the largest quantity ... of any nuclear facility in the United States."

But putting dirty plants in neighborhoods -- something that should never have been done, Mr. King wrote -- was only one part of the equation. Worse yet, he cited internal documents that said the operators knew of the problems that began with faulty construction but never did enough to stop them.
http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/opinion/editorials/radio...

Lousy engineering leads to lousy safety

Nuclear power is not inherently unsafe. The disasters we've had were due to always foreseeable (and almost always foreseen and deliberately discounted) mistakes, not startling surprises ("black swans").

There are intrinsically safe reactor designs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pebble_bed_reactor

As for the rest of the fuel supply and disposal chain, no different from mining and disposal of other toxic industrial substances.

Take back the GOP and Restore America Now.

Inherently safe? 500,000 year nuclear un-safe record.

Please read about: Nuclear downwind cancer rates.

Learn about the "tear drop" shape downwind of nuclear energy... Their leaks, meltdowns, & explosions. Slow death & instant annihilation.

Order today. Operators are standing by.

Duck and Cover Federal Civil Defense Administration. 9 minute 13 seconds.

Duck and Cover, Civil Defense, circa 1951.

Duck and Cover documentary, broadcast 1951 & beyond by the United States federal government's Civil Defense branch shortly after the Soviet Union began nuclear testing. Written by Raymond J. Mauer & directed by Anthony Rizzo made with the help of school children from New York. "Duck and Cover" public indoctrination campaign. Nuclear war could happen at any time without warning & US citizens. Your parents may not be around to help (an awesome premonition).

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Are you and engineer?

Have you ever designed, built and used a machine?

Black swans are the order of the day. In manufacturing so-called world class quality is 1 failure every two thousand units.

The more complex the system, the more difficult it is to attain that range of failure and the more failure modes one must consider.

We are under the impression that reactors are built to be safe. They are not. They are built so that the risk of financial loss is offset by the possible financial gain.

The NRC isolates nuclear plant operators from the financial risks of failures, so safety suffers to meet the central planners 5 year plans.

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So Paul?

My friend, what do you think of my theory about building multiple, controllable small plants far removed from each other rather than one big plant that is hard to stop if out of control? Could this be acceptable in your beliefs?

Unconstitutional War - "The story you are about to hear is true; the names and places are being changed to protect the guilty."

Just looking at the economics and not the safety issues.

Well, my basic premise is that it takes more energy to produce electricity from our nuclear plants than is produced. (Like the government's corn 2 alcohol swindle.)

For the military, this is not an issue, as nuclear propulsion solves the tactical problem of refueling.

The large plants are a result of trying to use economies of scale make the process economically viable.

If my presumption is correct, then smaller plants would be less economically feasible.

Is my premise correct. It's not a free market but a managed market. So costs are hidden and subsidies make accounting even harder.

All this for two reactors. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Chp_controlroom.jpg I don't know that a smaller reactor would allow for a smaller control room, for example.

"Nuclear power plants typically have high capital costs for building the plant, but low direct fuel costs (with much of the costs of fuel extraction, processing, use and long term storage externalized)" ~Wiki

The costs are externalized? Does that mean subsidized? Who picks up the bill?

If my premise is correct, then the nuclear plants added very little if anything to our net electric energy production overall.

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I agree

I do not like the idea at all, But if we are stuck with the idea I feel it would easier to control on a smaller scale at multiple locations? This very well might be the compromize we are all searching for? Output on a small local level that can be controled by just a local fire dept? Just a thought bro.

Unconstitutional War - "The story you are about to hear is true; the names and places are being changed to protect the guilty."

Small scale suits me fine.

I have been looking to see if I can make electricity from natural gas and using the waste heat to warm my home.

I also think the giant windmills are a mistake. A thousand 1kw wind turbines (using a car sized alternator), is 1 megawatt.

There are 254 million registered passenger vehicles in the United States according to a 2007 DOT study.

If we stole all the alternators and recycled the cars into windmills that's 254 Gigawatts. US Nuclear capacity is about 102 Gigawatts.

Buy a little insurance for property damage and personal liability and your set.

"In the U.S., insurance for nuclear or radiological incidents is covered (for facilities licensed through 2025) by the Price-Anderson Nuclear Industries Indemnity Act." ~Wiki

Who gets stuck holding the bag?

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Unbelievable Paul

The one thing I had not considered was insurance. Really? Why?

Unconstitutional War - "The story you are about to hear is true; the names and places are being changed to protect the guilty."

Whats unbelievable? Why insurance or why is nuclear indemnified?

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Shutdown! Diablo Canyon Nuclear Plant, Calif. Salp Clog Filters

A nuclear power plant has been forced to shut down because of an infestation of jellyfish-like creatures. Salp swarm forces closure of Diablo Canyon plant
California temporarily left without nuclear power. By Lee Moran
PUBLISHED: 27 April 2012. Comments (5)

Diablo Canyon, California, was completely closed yesterday after a swarm of salp

    [salp: similar to jellyfish; any of various transparent barrel-shaped or fusiform free-swimming tunicates (class Thaliacea) abundant in warm seas. Also see sal·pa

    Origin of SALP: Latin, a kind of deep-sea fish, from Greek salpē.

    First Known Use: 1835... Coincidental to the birth of Samuel Clemons (aka: Mark Twain)].

was found clogging filters meant to keep marine life out and the unit cool.

The slimy sea creatures were discovered as part of the Pacific Gas & Electric plant's routine monitoring system....

[Note: California Nuclear Power stopped by salp. Mark Twain was not present. The salp were not arrested, as no law could be found making it illegal for them to clog filters of this devilish plant. Legal scholars are puzzled; can yet another law stop this civil obedience?]

Respectfully, Mark Twain

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☠ When Traveling to Japan, Consult Radiation Maps ☠

☠ ☢ Fukushima Radiation Maps Google Earth ☢ ☠ Particularly shocking "Google Earth" tower charts of Fukushima area radioactivity. Graphically depicting red hot towers. Stratospheric!

Japan Radiation Maps show a wide swath of high radioactivity.

As for me, I don't expend much energy. I economize. Mississippi Riverboats are my preferred mode of safe, reliable, comfortable travel. I only need enough energy to get down to the docks.

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Just make sure you're looking

Just make sure you're looking at radiation maps, and not tsunami maps.

The picture that most people refer to is not a radiation plume. It's a pic of tsunami energy waves. Do a google images search, and see for yourself.

This image appeared in a Guardian article, after the tsunami. Check out the article here, and scroll about halfway down.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/blog/2011/mar/12/japan-tsun...

Hugs from Chile.

Nuclear Power= dead duck(saw one floating in the adjacent pond)

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You can't get clean in a dirty bathtub.

Power outage and fire breaks

Power outage and fire breaks out in South Carolina's Catawba Nuclear Plant.

http://enformable.com/2012/04/fire-at-catawba-nuclear-power-...

Nuclear power is NOT safe. An understatement, to be sure.

☢ Fukushima radiation plumes mapped and color coded ☢ Fukushima red hot. Tokyo watershed high. 10/09/2011

Search: Fukushima Radiation

About 30 million hits. Those that see no harm are getting fewer & farther between.

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