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These 4 videos are why Arpaio knows he has a case. What are you willing to do about it?

Albert Renshaw, (Atlanta GA) known mathematician and award winning program developer disected the Obama Birth Certificate the first day it came out, pointing to the many obvious irregularities. Watch these four videos and start giving credit where credit is due to "Birthers".

Watch all four videos to see how any objections are answered and to see examples of fraud in both the so-called short and long certificates.

1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7s9StxsFllY&feature=channel

2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=iv&src_vid=7s9StxsFllY&...

3. http://www.youtube.com/watch?src_vid=JT0Tpf1IhxA&annotation_...

4. http://www.youtube.com/watch?src_vid=9eJx7jsPV44&v=nW_PWzhgv...

It is my belief that the puppet masters know that Obama will not stand up under scrutiny and have already decided to replace him. I'm guessing Obama has been told and that would give reason to all his rushed executive ploys to give as much power to the POTUS as possible while he still is in office. As the chosen replacements, Romney/Santorum aren't performing as expected in spite of the crooked polls and MSM manipulation. The performance of Ron Paul is a wrench in their gears and presents more of a problem for every day that goes by. His following is openly rebellious and extremely determined, being a force they hadn't counted on.

If you want to get this country out of the corrupt and bloodstained hands that have been controlling it for almost 100 years, you can absolutely NoT give up now. Ron Paul MUST be carried on this wave of Liberty all the way to the Whitehouse or we are All, surely doomed. The choice you make today whether or not to defend this country and your freedom from tyranny will shape the future of this country and everyone in it. WHAT ARE YOU WILLING TO DO?




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I I just want to make clear the points I was trying to make.

Firstly, I don't think that anyone who is familiar with the Sherrif or has wiki'd him has any real doubt that he's a scumbag. My point was that "his" evidence was discovered by a more reliable source already the first day of publication of said documents. Not by him or his posse. Having said that, after the first discovery, not a hell of a lot was done about it until Arpaio stepped up. He's having a go at the President of the United States. He knows it's blacked out by MSM and I believe he, like myself, doesn't disput the authenticity or value of the evidence against Obama. This will put him in the history books if he pulls it off and he knows it. I frankly don't care about his motivations in this case if he gets it done.

I also wasn't asking what anyone was going to do about the now known evidence but rather after the planned agenda of the puppet-masters goes for a crap, A. by BHO being outed and B. Ron Paul on his way to win the election, they are going to unleash the fury. Economic collapse, DHS and Police thugs on the streets and pushing into homes and the country in "Emergency" lockdown. Food, Power, Banking, Judicial, Transport and Labour.

My last point was that hard decisions lie ahead for everyone as to what lengths one is prepared to object to this eventuality. Historically, a bystander is the worst position to be in in such a conflict.

Now it's about the Constitution and the fight to defend it.

My birth certificate is 100% real...

...and it has the wrong person listed as my dad. I'm not saying this is a waste of time, but I think that just because a BC is bogus, or has faulty info, doesn't mean the illuminati are behind it. You think Obama even had any idea where he was born? I have to take my mom's word for it that I was born in Billings MT. I just don't seem to recall the event all that well.
In any case, BC's are just not good proof of anything, and having a fake one doesn't automatically mean that Obama has "handlers" like Bilderberg or something. Facts mean certain things, but some of ya'll take things like this BC thing and assume that it proves all sorts of unrelated things. If I was president, someone would see that my dad listed on my BC is actually my step dad, and they'd wonder why my biological dad isn't on there. Then they'd try to link me to illuminati, and 911, and all this stuff that just isn't provable by the fact that my BC is just messed up.
I think Obama probably wasn't eligible, but that doesn't mean this grand conspiracy was behind it. For all we know, Obama didn't even know he wasn't eligible. Everything that happened to me before I was 5 is beyond my recollection, same for BHO.

Free market capitalism isn't right for America because it works better. It's right because it's free (and it works better).

I think if one looks at the

I think if one looks at the whole picture of Obama during his early years, whom he was living with, who paid for his education, whom he associated with and the power of his mentors, that it was a plan from the beginning is not outside the realm of probability. Nobody is talking UFO's here. We're talking about leftist activists that set bombs. Power CEO's. Leftist Rasist hate mongerers. The press is in total black out and you have to ask yourself, who can accomplish that. A friend that works in the studio as crew at MSNBC has said that word has circulated saying if anyone so much as mentions the word "Birther", MSNBC in it's entirety will cease to exist. No one is willing to test that.

Now it's about the Constitution and the fight to defend it.

Hahahah

"I just don't seem to recall the event all that well"

Hahahah i am dying at that, too funny

Maybe I shouldn't chime in...

but fuck it, it's what I do.

This whole 'birther' issue aside, the real issue at hand IMO isn't who is in office, but who pulls the strings of those who're in office. Would it not be more efficient to focus on that?

EDIT: typo

A signature used to be here!

Newbees don`t get you panties in a wad over the truth.

If you think forgery and lies are acceptable that`s your call. When I first saw the originally presented short form certificate of birth and saw that B.H.Obama`s father`s race was listed as "African" I knew someone did some forgery. I grew up in the 50`s and 60`s , and there was no race clasification of "African" back then.

It is hard to imagine a more stupid or more dangerous way of making decisions than by putting those decisions in the hands of people that pay no price for being wrong.
Thomas Sowell

OH YOU CRACKED IT WIDE OPEN.

Do you seriously think the United States of America, with all of the technology and records we have, would allow someone who is ineligible to become President, to run and become our President? Like do you seriously think that's possible? Bc I had always thought the "birthers" were just a bunch of racist white people like Rush Limbaugh & Donald Trump who couldn't stand seeing a non-white person as President... But now that so many people on here actually buy into this garbage, even after RP dismissed it as completely ridiculous, I may have to reevaluate my hypothesis. Maybe it's just the less educated folks who buy into the conspiracy... lower the IQ, the more you believe in aliens, UFOS, and fake birth certificates of US Presidents maybe?

duh der....

You think maybe "African" is a reference to the fact that he was FROM AFRICA...as opposed to just black.

"Alas! I believe in the virtue of birds. And it only takes a feather for me to die laughing."

My opinion

Of course Obama is not a citizen, the birther issue was DESIGNED from the very beginning and will be the pretext for chaos and upheaval.

Obama has handlers and they have great wealth and power and I am sure they could have created a birth certificate that would have been better than a real one. Their intention was to provide a substandard quality one so this dog and pony show plays well with the masses.

They have a script and everything is going down as they want it.
We don't need to watch tv anymore, we are living scripted reality.

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You only have to look this deep. Minor v Happersett

Because it is the Supreme Court case that defines what a natural born citizen is and the powers that be tried to bury it and almost got away with it.

Minor v. Happersett Revisited
http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/2012/01/09/minor-v-h...

JUSTIA.COM SURGICALLY REMOVED “MINOR v HAPPERSETT” FROM 25 SUPREME COURT OPINIONS IN RUN UP TO ’08 ELECTION.
http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/2011/10/20/justia-co...

JustiaGate
http://www.examiner.com/civil-rights-in-portland/justiagate

I repeat that this is the case because it set a precedent that is cited by the Supreme Court.

http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/2011/11/18/in-the-sp...

"The national dialogue on the legal issues discussed here has often become juvenile at best and intentionally misleading at worst. If you tried to argue on a bar examination or law school final that the US Supreme Court in Ex Parte Lockwood did not acknowledge Minor v. Happersett as a precedent on the definition of federal citizenship, you would fail. Yet, all over the blogosphere anonymous propaganda pushing blatant falsehoods is rampant."

U.S. Supreme Court
LOCKWOOD, EX PARTE, 154 U.S. 116 (1894)
http://caselaw.findlaw.com/cgi-bin/getcase.pl?court=us&vol=1...

And that my friend is the why of the tampering of Justia.com regarding Minor v Happerset They were aware that that was the case that could topple Obama.

It is clear that Obamas mother was unable to confer citizenship because of her age which was 18 at the time of birth. 14+5=19 = no citizenship. :(
http://www.visalaw.com/05jan1/2jan105.html
What are the rules for people born between December 23, 1952 and November 13, 1986?

Again, children born abroad to two US citizen parents were US citizens at birth, as long as one of the parents resided in the US at some point before the birth of the child.

When one parent was a US citizen and the other a foreign national, the US citizen parent must have resided in the US for a total of 10 years prior to the birth of the child, with five of the years after the age of 14. An exception for people serving in the military was created by considering time spent outside the US on military duty as time spent in the US.

While there were initially rules regarding what the child must do to retain citizenship, amendments since 1952 have eliminated these requirements.

Children born out of wedlock to a US citizen mother were US citizens if the mother was resident in the US for a period of one year prior to the birth of the child. Children born out of wedlock to a US citizen father acquired US citizenship only if legitimated before turning 21.

Albert Renshaw did a top notch job on that first video the day the Whitehouse released that worthless piece of paper Obama touts as his birth certificate.

November 6th 2012 I voted for Dr.Ron Paul
"We must remember, elections are short-term efforts. Revolutions are long-term projects." ~ Ron Paul

You are misstating the Minor

You are misstating the Minor case. It did not rule one way or the other on the issue. It only said that there "have been doubts." Here is what it said:

“Some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their parents. As to this class there have been doubts,”

Since you are so concerned with Supreme Court precedents, why don't you mention the more recent Kim Wong Ark case which clearly says that anyone born in the U.S. is a natural born citizen? Thank God that RP is staying out of this mess!!!

Then why did someone go through the trouble before the 2008

election to remove it from Justia? Nice selective quoting there.

November 6th 2012 I voted for Dr.Ron Paul
"We must remember, elections are short-term efforts. Revolutions are long-term projects." ~ Ron Paul

Selective quoting. Please

Selective quoting. Please specify. If Minor and Kim Wong Ark back up your position let's hear the details.

This is..

This is absolutely absurd and 100% a waste of time.

Agreed...

Agreed. This isn't going to get us anywhere and it makes us all look like whiners. Also most of it is based on a misinterpretation of facts regarding the technological capabilities of different scanners.

Exactly!

Exactly!

I am not going to do anything about this.

The point here is to get Ron Paul elected President and that is where I will concentrate all of my effort.

hthomas

Well, you could look at the

Well, you could look at the evidence yourself or you can be spoon fed your opinion. It's up to you.

"The United States can pay any debt it has because we can always print money to do that." — Alan Greenspan

It was Ron Paul himself who said it was public pressure that

caused the congress to back down on internet regulation.

A petition with a million signatures might do it too.

Who cares about Arpaio. He's not the only one with evidence that Obama's not eligible.

SequoiaTrees4RonPaul

Actually, the tech industry's

Actually, the tech industry's lobbying probably influenced congress' decision to back off of SOPA more than petitions did. These days, it seems wealthy corporations are needed to "persuade" congress, and good luck finding any of those that would support removing Obama from office. :-/

Disregard government. Acquire liberty.

Paul has wisely steered away

Paul has wisely steered away from birther conspiracy theories just as he has wisely done the same with truther conspiracy theories. I hope he continues to do so.

I agree that

he is wise not to get trapped into every interview being some kind of gotcha exercise, so that things he has some hope of changing get ignored. But, I hope that after he's elected he presides over the charge to fry his ass for the scam he has perpetrated on all of us.

What scam? Are you arguing

What scam? Are you arguing that he was born in Kenya? That he didn't have an American mother? What exactly is the scam? That he is born in the U.S but that his father was not?

Look, this is my opinion.

I don't post messages on DP that get us off track in our campaign efforts. I respect Ron's wisdom on this. But, this president has not been forthcoming with any details of his life. Even with the possibility that the digital 'artifacts' in the long form certificate he offered from the white house were a result of OCR software in a scanner, the fact is that it lacks an original official seal and is of a different format than other certificates from Hawaii at that time. Other small discrepancies also exist.
Beyond that, the definition of being 'natural born' is more than just where the baby is born. Besides, he is guilty of Social Security identity fraud as well as there being questions surrounding the documentation provided to register for the draft and other reasons to surmise that he had something to hide whenever he had to submit official documentation for anything he did in life. I simply don't believe he has been honest about his identity and that he is not eligible to be president.
Believe me, I would rather Dr. Paul ran against him than Hilary, anyway. I would just like to see him exposed after our man is safely in office.

Hey, I agree that Obama is a

Hey, I agree that Obama is a lying bastard. No argument there. To show, he is not a natural born citizen, you have to do more than that, however. You have to show that 1) his mother was not an American citizen and 2) that he was not born in the U.S. The fact that he had a foreign born non-citizen father is not sufficient to disqualify him as the Chester Arthur and Kim Wong Ark precedents show. Contra claims here, the SCOTUS never ruled otherwise.

And btw,

while I don't want Ron to waste campaign time on this, I have read reasonable questions as to whether Dunham/Obama was actually prevented from returning to Hawaii immediately before B.O. was born. There is some indication she was in Kenya, visiting his family. I don't assert that it's true, but everything about the way he has handled this question makes me think there is a chance that this was the case.
Besides, Social Security identity theft is a felony and the number he was assigned out of the office in CT. was previously used by a man who was born before the turn of the 20th c.
Why would he do that if he was eligible for a regular number?

Because.

Exactly, because only nut jobs like Donald Trump waste their time with either. I'd rather be associated with Ron Paul than Donald Trump, but maybe that's just me.

Arpaio is not a good or trustworthy man...

http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/valleyfever/2009/11/sheriff...

One of his officers stole a document from a defense attorney IN THE COURTROOM, got caught right away, and was charged with contempt of court. The judge very mercifully demanded nothing but an apology - Sheriff Arpaio told his officer not to apologize and flouted the court's ruling.

This man has no respect for liberty or the rule of law, none. He is just another power-hungry cop who likes the attention he gets from the birth certificate issue, and from getting coverage as a "tough guy" who makes his prisoners wear pink.

O, and he endorsed Rick Perry:
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/30/us/politics/sheriff-joe-ar...

"Alas! I believe in the virtue of birds. And it only takes a feather for me to die laughing."