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9/11: A Conspiracy Theory*

James Corbett has really outdone himself with this one.... PRICELESS...!!!

http://youtu.be/yuC_4mGTs98

Found at:
http://moridinskeep.blogs...

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This thread was originally titled, 'OMG - See The PTB Get Their *ss Handed to Them' but the editors here at the Daily Paul felt such a headline wouldn't be quite appropriate for the front page of this very dignified website. Additionally, the embedded YouTube video has been replaced to point back to the original James Corbett version - with over 1.25 million views - rather than the one found on the Mordin's Keep blog, which has a (relatively) paltry 57,000 views.

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Dr. Judy Wood's

research is the most compelling I've seen since I first learned about 911 in 2006. There's a lot they do not want us to know about... not only who was behind it but, just as importantly, how it was done.

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace."
Jimi Hendrix
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odcGSi286a4&feature=plcp&cont...

The "official" investigation

The "official" investigation was not for the purpose of finding out the truth about 9/11, but simply "to make sure that it can't happen again." In other words the official story was not to be questioned or examined, but rather to be cast in stone and accepted by everyone ab initio.

another - mysterious deaths of 9/11 witnesses

haven't seen this one before, wow!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=bvay2...

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9-11 was Masterfully Pre-Planned Freemasonic Black Magic

9-11 was Masterfully Pre-Planned Freemasonic / Kabbalistic Black Magic.

That was PURE SATANISM, plain and simple.

Very few people know that.

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Wisdom Strategies

"Babies Being Thrown Out Of Incubators"

For those that don't already know: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nayirah_%28testimony%29

In particular:

"In 1990, after being approached by a Kuwaiti expatriate in New York, Hill & Knowlton took on "Citizens for a Free Kuwait."[33] The objective of the national campaign was to raise awareness in the United States about the dangers posed by Iraqi dictator, Saddam Hussein to Kuwait.

"Hill & Knowlton conducted a $1 million study to determine the best way to win support for strong action.[34] H & K had the Wirthington Group conduct focus groups to determine the best strategy that would influence public opinion. The study found that an emphasis on atrocities, particularly the incubator story, was the most effective.

"Hill & Knowlton is estimated to have been given as much as $12 million by the Kuwaitis for their public relations campaign."

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"Bipartisan: both parties acting in concert to put both of their hands in your pocket."-Rothbard

thanks - I didn't understand that part

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"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know Peace." - Jimi Hendrix

Pure Evil

Her faked testimony: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmfVs3WaE9Y
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJzQcsSVR7E&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PPiadun9Jo&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtjzKdiMDds&NR=1&feature=ends...

There were no babies thrown out of incubators. It was a false flag of sorts to mobilize public opinion in support of the war.

Tom Woods debunks this nonsense on its face when he points out what strategic idiocy it would be for a conquering army to take a detour from its invasion to enter hospitals, throw babies out of incubators, and take the incubators with them. It doesn't even pass a simple smell test.

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"Bipartisan: both parties acting in concert to put both of their hands in your pocket."-Rothbard

I find this video extremely revealing

While we are on the topic of 9/11....It is a video produced by the group architects and engineers for 9/11 truth and discusses building 7 from the point of view of credible people from academia and as well as other experts.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZEvA8BCoBw

I also recommend 'The New Pearl Harbor" by David Ray Griffin, for what its worth.

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Ok...

I am not a truther. I prefer truther topics be left off the DP as a general rule. However, I have been sympathetic to truthers, as long as the leave Ron Paul out of it, and when their tactics aren't awful.

Having said all of that. This was a good video, and for, perhaps the first time, targeted who truthers really want to target.... non-truthers.

I wouldn't mind passing this video on to even my most anti-truther friends (once it has been completely fact checked).

It was a good job.

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Jefferson's picture

I always

get a kick when someone starts out their reply with "I'm not a truther."
You use the terms "non-truther" and "anti-truther." What would those be considered? Liars? That's what it seems like when these labels are used.

Who wouldn't want the TRUTH about the most significant event of our lifetimes? (so far)

"Blowback" is an easy and safe fallback position. OF COURSE people in other countries hate our foreign policy. We're not just talking the Middle East either. How about Africa, South and Central America, Cuba, etc. Our CIA has been involved in some very bad activities around the entire world for a very long time. They still are.
I do my best to try to understand and accept RP's public position and statements. But, knowing some of his family and their private opinion, leads me to believe that all is not what it seems.
RP has already gone far enough to say that "Govt. investigations of themselves are usually cover-ups" for ineptitude or whatever.
This farce of an investigation which was basically denounced by 6 of the 10 commissioners is simply that. A FARCE.

Imagine if one of your family members was murdered, and your case was "investigated" by a group of detectives.

The first guy they appoint to LEAD the investigation has to step down because he is wanted for crimes in other countries.
(Henry Kissinger)
Another one of these detectives eventually resigns in disgust. Others called the investigation things like a "National scandal" and a "conflict of interest."
One of the lead detective/attorney writes a book and says "the parties we interviewed made a conscious decision to NOT tell the truth about the events of that day."
What would you think if they came back to you and said "well, sorry, they decided to not tell us the truth. Have a nice day."
Would you just accept that?
Or would you say HEY, what about the evidence? "Well sorry, the crime scene was not secured, and cleaned up in record time."
What about the motive?
I could go on and on...

The bottom line is this.
9/11 was the result of a policy coup in this country. It was the beginning of an elaborate game of "let's you and him fight."
When you understand who PNAC is, and read the writings of their members, and realize what OTHER countries might have benefited from having the full force of the US military at their disposal, then you might have a more clear idea of what took place.
Here is Gen. Wesley Clark ADMITTING that he was TOLD that we were going to attack 7 countries in the next 5 years, shortly after 9/11.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7NsXFnzJGw

Do you think the countries being attacked and occupied now are just the result of some organic coincidence?

If you do, I beg to differ.

People can not simply be divided up into "pinheads and patriots" or "truthers and anti-truthers."

It's a lot more complex and important than to be just written off as "blowback."
/rant

911 = " - more complex and important - "

well said, esp the conclusion = in the last line. +1

nicely executed... your

nicely executed... your statement is.

Think for yourself......Question authority...

Yoda,

is that you?

The law cannot make a wicked person virtuous…God’s grace alone can accomplish such a thing.
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wolfe's picture

This is what I meant...

The current truther approach is great at appealing to the choir... Not good at winning new converts.

The posted video made an effort to reach the undecided.

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Please note that the "choir"

Please note that the "choir" DOES NOT include Dr. Paul who dismisses the inside job theory as "nonsense" and "off the wall."

abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/01/ron-paul-calls-911-conspiracy-charge-nonsense/

wolfe's picture

It's the label they chose...

Just because the word truth is in it, does not mean that they are either seeking or know the truth (as illustrated by Loose Change's usual tactics and statements which are barely this side of sane, and they are barely able to spell their own names from what I can tell most of the time).

You don't get it though from your long tirade. I've heard everything the truthers have said. From the fact to the fiction. And it is the over-zealous pushing of the ideas/questions that immediately shuts people down.

I just expressed some sympathy for your cause (which is rare on DP for me to do) and you respond with the above. A much less aggressive approach would work better.

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Jefferson's picture

"I just expressed some sympathy for your cause"

Thanks, but I don't really consider "my cause."

I consider it the cause of the 3000+ that died that day (one of them being a family friend), the 10's of thousands of soldiers that have either been killed or maimed, and the 100's of thousands who have died as a result of 9/11.
I also consider the cause of those who care to preserve the principles of freedom this country was founded upon, and those who are concerned about the ever encroaching police state.

Look, I wasn't trying to attack you, or convert you. I also "rarely" get into these pissing matches on the DP anymore, as I see it as a waste of time. If I came across that way then I apologize.

I just think it is interesting that "they" (whoever they are) can add an "er" onto the end of certain words to either categorize, marginalize and or divide certain groups of people, and we tend to perpetuate it.
("truther, birther, tenther" etc..)

You believe what ever you want. We all have to live with the consequences of our decisions. What I gave to you in the main body of my post was fact, not fiction. What I offered at the end, was speculation based on my research. Once again, you are free to think what you want. I couldn't care less if you agree or not.

I was simply trying to get you to see it from a different perspective, not "convert" you. I've engaged in enough of these discussions to know better.

all you have to do is use

all you have to do is use your head and do some reading, and you will see the truth. if you think that just discussing 911 causes infighting and divides people, then you haven't seen anything. once you get peoples religious beliefs involved... it always goes downhill from there. James makes the point accurately at the end about being a batsh*t crazy tinfoil hat wearing conspiracy theorist if you will even consider these things...

apparently not as many people are as aware as i had thought...

be forewarned... i am sure i am about to hurt some feelings... but if you dig around you will come to similar conclusions.

i will start by posing the simplest question which usually leads you in the right direction? who benefits? did we? did the terrorists? who really benefited?

now so you dont think that this is just my crazy pet theory i will introduce you to someone...

Alan Sabrosky (Ph.D., University of Michigan) is a writer and consultant specializing in national and international security affairs. In December 1988, he received the Superior Civilian Service Award after more than five years of service at the U.S. Army War College as Director of Studies, Strategic Studies Institute, and holder of the General of the Army Douglas MacArthur Chair of Research.

He is listed in WHO'S WHO IN THE EAST (23rd ed.). A Marine Corps Vietnam veteran and a 1986 graduate of the U.S. Army War College, Dr. Sabrosky's teaching and research appointments have included the United States Military Academy, the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS), Middlebury College and Catholic University; while in government service, he held concurrent adjunct professorships at Georgetown University and the Johns Hopkins University School of Advanced International Studies (SAIS).

Dr. Sabrosky has lectured widely on defense and foreign affairs in the United States and abroad. You can email Dr. Alan Sabrosky at: docbrosk@comcast.net

Watch and really listen to this video interview of him: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6z3ZktA1dY read the articles shown on the video...

it was made from this podcast: http://theuglytruth.podbean.com/2010/03/14/the-ugly-truth-po...

Read this article: http://bigeye.com/sabrosky.htm

Remember too, that we have been over there fighting their wars, their agendas for a very long time. Who has really benefited? Seriously.

Over and over again its the same story... here is Ron Paul's go to guy for terrorism... http://youtu.be/BroW3Cwm4b4

Do you honestly think RP doesnt know who did this... http://youtu.be/7WbfaWncgLQ

the same saudi terrorist patsy suckers are being used as pawns in all of these conflicts... BY INTELLEGENCE AGENCIES. we are now using Al-CIA-da that we created, in 6 countries.... and yet they are the boogiemen who pulled off the biggest security breach in the history of the world? really?

they are Wahhabi radicals that the mossad handlers use for all of their dirty deeds... and the zionists on the inside of our country handled the inside job part of it. why is that so hard to figure out?

look at who owned the towers, what security company was responsible for them... it goes on an on...

is it any wonder that Ron Paul is the only one who KNOWS we dont need to be sending israel ANY foreign aid...

LISTEN TO WHAT SABROSKY SAYS... READ HIS CREDENTIALS...

Think for yourself......Question authority...

Paul shot this down. Watch

Paul shot this down. Watch Here at 5:30.

Paul also goes to great lengths to explain the issue of blowback.

"A true competitor wants their opponent at their best." Lao Tzu

and everything i just posted

and everything i just posted doesnt disagree with blowback in the least... they were radical islamists who were pissed we were meddling in the middle east, but they were also used to get us to go to war against multiple countries who had never attacked us and were no threat.

who were they a threat to?

follow the links in the post above....

Think for yourself......Question authority...

Your post doesn't disagree

Your post doesn't disagree with Blowback but it implies that Blowback was not the instigator of the attack. Rather that the government used Blowback as the excuse to cover up their attack... which isn't even true either. Their public statements accused radical Islam solely. This is in disagreement with Ron Paul.

My point was that Ron Paul shot this theory down openly. Additionally, he goes to great lengths to caution us against intervention to prevent Blowback again. He's very concerned about us being attacked by them again.

The video you posted claims that they did not attack us, e.g., they were incapable. So that would be in disagreement with Dr. Paul's assessment of the issue as well as experts Michael Scheuer and Robert Pape; whom are both obviously highly respected in the movement.

"A true competitor wants their opponent at their best." Lao Tzu

Someone fix this logic for me.

1. No building has ever collapsed from fire and jet fuel doesn't burn hot enough to melt steel, therefor, the US government must have blown up the twin towers.
2. We haven't seen any compelling footage of a plane hitting the Pentagon, nor crashing in PA, and the general public has yet to see the actual wreckage of these planes, therefor, the US government must have used missiles.
3. Building 7 wasn't even hit by a plane yet it fell anyway, therefor, the US government must have blown up building 7.
4. Jon Benet Ramsey was abducted and most likely killed and nobody saw who did it, therefor the US government must have killed Jon Benet.
5. Not a single scientist who's ever lived can explain what caused the big bang to occur, therefor God exists. (Or maybe the US government caused the big bang)

Free market capitalism isn't right for America because it works better. It's right because it's free (and it works better).

Who is trying to cover this up

The government is suspected not because those questions remain unanswered but because of the effort they are putting into making sure those questions can't be answered. When you compared this to a murder trial, you said that just because it can be proven that one person hasn't committed the murder doesn't automatically incriminate someone else, which is true. But if someone else came along trying to get rid of evidence, they would immediately move to the top of the suspect list.

you lost me at #4

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πολλα γαρ πταιομεν απαντες ει τις εν λογω ου πταιει ουτος τελειος ανηρ δυνατος χαλιναγωγησαι και ολον το σωμα

Bad premises. Incorrect conclusions

1) No modern steel skyscraper has collapsed into its footprint from fire. Therefore, this incident - explained as having been caused by a fire fueled by office furniture - should be viewed with skepticism. The U.S. government has endorsed this version of events. The U.S. government has a long history of fibbing, so its word doesn't suffice.
2) I believe the missile story is a canard. However, anyone providing an alternative explanation should be held to the same standard. If they were missiles, provide compelling footage or other proof.
3) Building 7 wasn't hit by a plane, it supposedly collapsed into its footprint due to fire. (see 1.)
4) As far as I know, the U.S. government has not endorsed any fantastic story concerning the fate of Ramsey. When the government does, and decides to declare war on child beauty contest entrant killers, it will be worth more scrutiny.
5) People have a hard time admitting ignorance. What we are left with is a list of plausible explanations. The simplest explanation is usually the best. When looking for a culprit one has to find someone with motive and opportunity.
If the buildings were not destroyed due to 19 hijackers flying three planes into the WTC and the Pentagon, then one has to ask who had the motive and opportunity.
Since the U.S. government used the story to its advantage and appears satisfied with the stupid 19 + Osama story, one has to look at whether the U.S. government appeared at least complicit in what happened on 9/11/01.
Personally, I don't know who did it, but I believe from looking at this that elements of U.S. intelligence, Israeli intelligence, British intelligence, and Saudi intelligence agencies were involved. Whether missiles, or holograms, or thermite or something else was used, I really don't care. All that matters is the government is lying and doesn't seem interested in finding the truth.

[F]orce can only settle questions of power, not of right. - Clyde N. Wilson

I'm willing to listen to your hypothesis

about how some mideastern "terrorists" accomplished same.
And while you're at it, why would certain administation officials promote a false story, which defies the laws of physics and could not possibly be true?
Which "terrorists" forced them to release that Official US Gov't story which is false?

Engineers/Architects for 9/11 Truth..

Best approach to 9/11.

Look at the physics.

For the official story to be true, Newton's three laws were on a holiday that day.

Not to mention the fact that someone trained several hours on a Cessna could not possibly fly a jumbo jet, forget about the precision of aiming said jumbo jet at a building at high speed. Ask an experienced pilot how much training they need when a new model of jumbo jet is introduced - and these are people with decades of jumbo jet flying under their belts (a recent article in Flying magazine attests to this).

So many things don't add up and I see nothing wrong with asking why?, what?, how?, huh?

The law cannot make a wicked person virtuous…God’s grace alone can accomplish such a thing.
Ron Paul - The Revolution

Setting a good example is a far better way to spread ideals than through force of arms. Ron Paul

Looking forward to seeing it

I'm still out as to what happened but the official story is full of holes.

Some people might want to read Wrongly Blamed

and see who really did 9-11--and who didn't!!