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Doug Wead: "A plea from inside the Santorum camp: Work with Ron Paul"

"This is from a Rick Santorum coordinator in Washington State. I edited it down because of length. In this District they captured 17/18 Santorum/Paul Delegates and 17/18 Santorum/Paul Alternates. Mitt Romney got zero.

The statement of the Rick Santorum coordinator:

What was done in Pierce County started the idea of both Paul and Santorum’s camps coming together. It was an act by the people to overrule the establishment, the money, the same old solutions to problems, by the same old people that helped create those problems in the first place.

We as ordinary citizens took it upon ourselves to come together as one in unity for a common goal to make our voices heard. We put aside party and put our country first. We listened to each other as we came to a common ground on issues with mutual respect that fostered trust amongst us.

We actually accomplished in one afternoon what we as citizens ask of our leaders to do when they represent us in our nation’s capitol. In this country where checks and balances are so often a thing of the past, we common people came together as one to say No! We want something better for America’s future. In a very real sense, what we have in delegates is a check that balances the power of votes that are bought through the power of ten second sound bites we call commercials. Surely such a thing has to strike fear in the establishment so heavily vested in backing Romney.

The delegate system can be used as a reward to those willing to get off the couch and actually try and make a difference through grass roots efforts where they are free to make any alliances they choose. This is a far better use of delegates than rewarding those that just watch the television and simply show up to vote.

How big was Romney’s grass roots campaign again? Well, in the 25th District caucus he had ONE guy holding a political sign, virtually no political signs were seen about the community, and he had no representative speaker. So much for the claim to being “organized.” Depending on how delegate votes are used it can say we must do more as citizens than just showing up to vote. This is not the time for ordinary people to be sitting back and letting somebody else dictate to them what this country’s future will look like or if they’ll continue to keep the freedoms so many fought so hard to get and protect for us. Each individual must take bold steps and take action to preserve the gifts given us. At some point, and it might as well be now, people are going to reign back power from party leaders, unite and actually make something like a Paul/Santorum unity slate work. As I see it, it’s the only way to balance power, restore it back to the people and take it away from big money.

Those against such an alliance, especially elected state delegates, might want to address future problems and complaints concerning government to the person in the mirror. I fail to see the logic in people not trusting such an arrangement that both Paul and Santorum’s people have agreed to, yet they’ll trust the same people running the party for years that have helped bring us to this junction in history.

Case (s) in point with the current establishment: Why has the Republican Congress sat by idle as Obama used our military in Libya without their consent? Why has Attorney General Eric Holder not been brought up on charges by the judiciary committee? Any actions on their part has been pure window dressing and indicative of future responses. What will it take for them to act and at what point will it be too late for all of us? THIS, is what is meant by the term “establishment,” and by and large the same ones endorsing Romney.

Personally, I trust the common Joe more than those behind the scenes that have attempted to buy, and in some cases, outright steal this nomination. Some may feel the “back room” deal between the Paul and Santorum camps, that was made right out in the open corridors of the convention, may be divisive, underhanded or cause disruption at the state convention.

Good!!! Given the Romney camp record in several states it was about time to put a stop to their practices.

Many lessons can be learned from the 25th District where Romney got the big goose egg. We need to embrace the energized supporters of Paul. We need to stop treating them like 2nd class citizens with off the wall ideals and give them props for the amazing accomplishments they’ve made in the grass roots arena.

What I found in talking with many of them is they are very intelligent independent thinkers that have a genuine love for their country. We must let their voices be heard. They’ve earned it and whether you agree or disagree with them, they’re here to stay. I’d rather have them on our side than the alternative.

I came away from the convention with a totally new perspective on things. I’d like to hope I made some lifelong friends in the process.

We citizens of the 25th District stopped Romney cold and said, “not in our house!”

You as state delegates, right now, have the opportunity to make perhaps one of the biggest contributions to our nation’s history. It’s a precious gift and awesome responsibility that few get to experience. Nobody can predict the future, but we can learn from the past. We know that in 1976 we failed to nominate a conservative Ronald Reagan and got a Jimmy Carter and all accompanying pitfalls.

We’re repeating history putting forth Romney and you as common patriots have the power in your votes to put a stop to it. Now is the time to put country first and for leaders to step up and rise to the occasion. Now is the time to return the power back to the people. Years from now, what story will you tell your kids and grand kids?"

http://dougwead.wordpress.com/2012/04/07/a-plea-from-inside-...




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Santorum despises Paul

but he DETESTS Romney. Teaming up with Santorum right now and STOPING Romney is in our best interests. That's the only way to ensure a brokered convention. At the convention, if Ron Paul isn't able to secure enough delegates to win on the second or third round of voting, then I have a feeling Rick Santorum would bow to WHATEVER it takes to get Ron Paul's delegates if that's what it takes to defeat Romney.

You are right, but you don't want the campaign to trick anyone

by behaving like the Romney / GOP estab campaign/party that works with everyone and backstabs everyone at the same time as well.

If you want to team up with Santorum and Newt to stop the elites (as represented by Romney), then you should not be having weekly conversations with the Romney campaign, thinking and saying it is ok to 'coordinate' with them, leaking information about long-time deals with Romney personally from campaign insiders, etc...

jj

Some people commenting

on this are missing the point. Wead isn't saying, "Make Santorum VP" or any other such nonsense. He is talking about forming alliances with Santorum supporters (who are mostly tea party and Evangelicals) to get as many possible RP delegates to State conventions as possible. The party establishment doesn't want tea party types involved almost as much as it doesn't want RP supporters. This is how we upset their apple cart. Form alliances at the local level to push grassroots slates through. You don't have to agree on your Presidential pick to see that you are both gonna get screwed if you don't team up. This is exactly what we need to do. Be smart, play the game, come out on top. This has nothing to do with compromising your principles or selling out. It's what needs to be done. I'd much rather see an active tea partier that is truly concerned about their country that hasn't totally woken up and so is therefore a Santorum supporter than some slimy status quo party hack that will support whatever the R party tells them become a delegate any day of the week.

Exactly right

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"Alas! I believe in the virtue of birds. And it only takes a feather for me to die laughing."

Interesting. I like Mr.

Interesting. I like Mr. Santorum. I think he is a victim of the establishment. The interplay between Dr. Paul and Mr. Santorum in the debates was interesting too. Dr. Paul wants the voters to know that he is not conservative, but I think Dr. Paul was also sending the same message to Santorum. If Santorum would just get to know Dr. Paul I think they would be friendly. Mr. Santorum does not like the downfall of society into immaturity, gossip, and loose living. He would like to send a clear message that he does not endorse these behaviors. Dr. Paul has said repeatedly that just because you allow people to live freely does not mean you endorse what they do. There is no way to change another person, but you can set a good example. Just as many of us came to agree with Dr. Paul and were not forced to do so, the same revelation can occur with Mr. Santorum. I am okay with him believing what he wants, but he cannot get so emotional and abusive of other people because he disagrees with them. The same with this preemptive war philosophy. I think this is not a Christian philosophy and Mr. Santorum has been victimized by certain anti-christian neoconservatives.

Santorums nature

Santorum's nature, he would right off the bat throw RP to the dogs if he won or not. I don't trust this man, he is disgusting. He is a war monger, he has no beliefs, he has nothing.

Notwithstanding,

do you think you would join in a Paul/Santorum delegate strategy to stop Romney from reaching a delegate majority?

New Hampshire and Ecuador.

Hard answer

Hard to answer this one, he stole half of RP's platform. He has even said he wouldn't vote for RP if he was the Candidate. Is to much of a team player that he has no values. So ya I guess I could throw my own values under the table just to see Romney not win..

Not..

Either way with Obummer or Romnucklehead, America will burn, A second vote does not mean RP wins or Santorum or Gingrich. It means Santorum s are open to vote for romnucklehead. Unless we got 800 plus hidden delegates hiding somewhere after the 1st vote.
I just dont see how an alliance would matter either way.The GOP will hijack this to the end, Remember its a farking private club after all.

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Paul/Santorum ???

That's a scenario I would not have considered until reading this article. My brain just fell off the cerebral cliff from visualizing President Paul with Santorum as his VP and the cognitive dissonance I'm experiencing on the way down will likely end in a grand mal seizure.

Nevertheless, I can see a Paul/Santorum ticket absolutely crushing Romney and then Obama. Maybe that's the non-Romney alternative that a majority of the country can get behind? Hmm...

It reminds me of the differences between President Adams and his VP, Jefferson. In that case, though, Adams wanted a strong central government and Jefferson wanted more power in the states.

Ron Paul - Honorary Founding Father

I hope this is already making

I hope this is already making it's rounds in the Santorum grassroots. It's an alliance that makes sense from all angles, if you leave the personalities out of it. In dialogue I think there's a lot of common ground to be found between the two groups, just not so much in the base-ideologies. There's a lot separating them there, no doubt about it. But if you're talking about immediate, practical, on the ground goals (like stopping Romney and Obama, economy etc).

Some things to consider for Santorum-supporters:
-Santorum has had a great fight against the odds, but he is hitting a ceiling right now and even falling behind in some cases. So, like it or not, time has come to think pragmatically: deal-time. There are two deals to make here. The one everyone in the media and establishment would love to see you make is with Romney. Romney gets the nomination, Rick gets eeuh.. a position, a pad on the back and you're all left with a foul taste when NOTHING CHANGES under Mitten's mitts (not likely), if he doesn't get absolutely crushed and humiliated by Obama (more likely).

-Santorum and Paul are the only ones standing against that right now. If the current course of events is not changed, Romney will take the nomination, if not legitimately they'll just sow enough confusion to make it seem legitimate. You've been on the ground so you've seen how they operate. You've also seen how the Paul campaign operates... now imagine your grassroots + our grassroots vs. the bumbling Romney establishment. Strange, I know... but also kinda interesting, isn't it? Lot of great energy there. IF you are serious about issues, actually changing something, that has to be appealing.

-The issues that Santorum's people want to discuss, that are important to them, that make the clearest distinction between Rick and Mitt, will be ingored and laughed away under Romney and Obama. They don't care, they pander. The Ron Paul Liberty Movement, by it's very nature leaves NO issue undiscussed and NO stone unturned, even some really weird and ridiculous ones sometimes. But that's what we do. You want a discussion about the foundations of our society, we too. We'll have different opinions, but at least we'll be having it. And yes, we are VERY serious when we say that even if we don't agree with you we'll fight for your right to believe and express it and love you for doing so passionately. You will be included like nowhere else.

Just something to consider. At least talk to your local Ron Paul people. If you don't like what you get out of it, the Romney/Obama/Oblivion option is still open.

I said this before, they are a team.

Santorum wins the beauty contests and Ron Paul comes in afterwards and picks up all of the delegates. This has been very successful in many states and as long as Santorum agrees that this is the way it will, then an alliance would work fine. I would not want him as VP though so what position could we offer him?

hthomas

homeland security

^^

As distasteful as it is

it is a logical step to achieve our goal. Politics as well as revolution are hardball activities and the meek merely become footnotes in history. I'd be more than willing to vote for Santorum as VP if the Dr. could win the office of the Presidency.The VP is mostly a ceremonial post other than to vote in a tie breaker in Congress. What ever means necessary, we don't have the luxury of another chance! If we think we've seen dirty dealings wait till the National Convention.

If not us than who?

Agreed

With a ticket like that we'd at least break the liberal establishment's back. The stooges would be wiped out of the liberal hellhole up there, the NSA would be reformed.

The Fed would be imprisoned under their reign and finally maybe Karma would catch up to Romney. The only thing I doubt Santorum would even want any part of is the drug legalization gambit, but Dr. Paul could pass that onto the states where it has freaking belonged.

Besides that, it would be very difficult to get rid of the Department of Education and we'd have to keep on Paul/Santorum's heels to stop most of these third-rate traitors. If we went asleep even for an instant and did not keep close watch on the President, the worst trash imaginable would sneak its way into office and implement the New World Order full stop. We need to cut their string & engage in a ten year war to virtually decapitate the liberal main street agenda of radicalism.

I think that ticket would be

I think that ticket would be a hard sell with the independent/third party crowd Paul needs to keep beating Obama. A lot of them would have issues voting for Santorum, I know I would, the only I thing I like is that he has supporters that can help Ron Paul, while helping themselves.

But if Santorum is serious about his ambitions, this race is his trial run anyway, like Romney's '08 run. He'll have much better cards to run again in 2016 or later and Ron Paul is getting on in age, so it's not inconceivable he could be a one-term president and retire setting the field for a race between Santorum and whoever is the favored liberty candidate (Rand possibly). Even if Santorum takes the nomination, he'll lose to Obama. Romney will lose to Obama, Romney/Santorum even more so. So as much as Santorum hates libertarianism, there's a lot of good they could do for him if he can look past that and think like statesman. His inability to do so, for lack of experience, is his biggest shortcoming this race.

That's the kind of tactic we need. We don't agree with Santorum, but together we can dictate the debate, which is now dominated by the Romney/Obama narrative that cuts everybody out that isn't aggressively mainstream, even Gingrich folks and Tea Partiers. They should get in on it too.

Santorum as VP?

Don't forget JFK and LBJ.

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morning

bump

I fully support Santorum and Paul in forging this real alliance.

I think we all share a very common threat to this nation, and to each of us & that is a Mitt Romney presidency. He is not a man of his word, and is truly deceptive. I'll tell you this- if Romney won, we're going to see the worst crash in over three decades without any way to go back.

http://blogs.wsj.com/wealth/2012/04/03/the-rich-could-lose-h...

Granted, Obama is a piece of work and is exactly like Romney. Mitt Romney/Obama will claim they will "restore" our country's sovereignty, and in the other breath they will vote for and endorse 5 trillion dollar bailouts. I'm speaking of really, really bad bailouts especially Romney. You know how everyone already knows this? Romney and his firm Bain Capital voted for the bailouts the first time, the second time, & even after the tax cuts came down he supported the program again. Even though TARP was an absolute disaster, that he claims he would do again if asked. You know what?

Gingrich even changed his policy and came out against he bailouts but Romney, even in the face of 2% popularity; followed the liberal establishment right off the cliff. Put over four hundred thousand people out of work and didn't lose a wink of sleep. This guy is just bad, BAD, BAD!!!

Romney & Obama are not even Bush stooges, they are so liberal that they are the grand sonata. The Chief Don of the Bailout Mafia. They will literally vote our civil rights away with the stroke of a pen, without any regrets...and later claim the "reeducation camps" managed by FEMA were for our own good. So we will learn that to be productive, we need to be "liberal" & back corporate socialism...otherwise, forget it and get back to the slave hangar with the rest of them. If you don't shoot yourself first, you can look forward to a long, ugly intern education program at camp FEMA forced as labor for oligarchs. Or maybe driven out to the woods where you go mad(hunger game style). Thanks Comrade Obama!!

That's only the first likely future under their presidencies. It doesn't count all the experimentation the globalists want to do to "us", it certainly does not. Right now I'm out here among them. I'M behind enemy lines. Do you think I like this, waking up early, jetting out the door & cozying up to corporate socialist trash? No!! I hate this, hate being part of the candidate process. Even delegates. I'm here because I'm fighting the REAL war, to avoid the kind of future this country has above. I'm fighting because I despise these liberal snakes!! I'M IN THIS TO WIN, BECAUSE OUR COUNTRY WON'T SURVIVE WHAT THE DICTATOR OBAMA HAS IN STORE FOR US!! I'm no fool anymore. Santorum awoke to the summer patriot games too. The future for his daughter, the future for everyone...being forced into a liberal school or FEMA summer camp for brainwashing. No way he ever wants that, or anybody else either.

Obama is the frigging devil as it is. His liberals have hijacked the GOP. You know, Santorum is right about something. I feel his idea of banning bestiality based porn & making it illegal, is right on target. I would support that at state level, probably not Federal. And why would I? Because Santorum's danced with the devil. He's seen it, and porn when it goes unchecked produces abused kids, homosexuality and blackmail. Don't believe he didn't want to speak up. You have no idea the kind of blackmail that occurs, how bankers, globalists & mossad stooges will toss out innocent children and then start video taping everything. Force Santorum(or anyone) to abandon his conscience, do things he hates, use the tape as blackmail & then tell Santorum if he doesn't vote the democrat Romney/Obama way his career is over. Or much worse and folks, this is real. This is how the traitors, these liberals actually hijacked our country to vote for "Israel" first always...or the banks first, or christian bisexual videos & all the other evils. These people are horrible traitors & so is Romney for joining them. The NSA-Mossad stooges listen in on every single phone call, they know every word millions say. Believe it.

Santorum especially or people they want to pressure/force to do their dirty work. This isn't a joke, gents. Look up Project Paperclip & Blackbook from NSA's classified history. They don't mess around & many communists like Bush, General Byers, Ackermann etc. are pure evil trash. These people hate the country, everything its founded upon. They aren't afraid to light the match & destroy it, as Santorum and anyone like that will tell you straight off. So take nothing for granted & realize we are in some trouble. Support Santorum and Paul to make the alliance for the sake of this nation's future. Obama will commit treason, lord knows what else he does before Ron Paul can stop the guy. Obama after all leads the gang. We need to absolutely support Santorum & Paul. Even if you don't agree with everything, we're running out of time. You can get Muslims, drugs off the street & globalist fascists at different times: After winning. But losing...is NOT an option. We got to be prepared to be shot, if it means stopping the liberal's tyranny. And I guarantee, Israel, Turkey & Saudi Arabia are messed up places. We'll need to get rid of terrorism there some other way, but first the Fed must go. Our most horrible mistake that began all this terror & evil...is the liberal, sick Federal Reserve System. It has to be abolished like any of its first cancers, or else our nation will be abolished.

NWO stay on notice. WE ARE IN THIS TO WIN! I am certain of that.

As a point of order...

..you've stated:"Romney and his firm Bain Capital voted for the bailouts the first time, the second time, & even after the tax cuts came down".
Question:
HOW did Romney & Bain "VOTE"?...they aren't Congressman...
...so , please explain that to me?

PS: This is NOT in Mittens or Frothy's defense...can't stand either of them.

"Beyond the blackened skyline, beyond the smoky rain, dreams never turned to ashes up until.........
...Everything CHANGED !!

When I say Bain and Romney openly voted, I mean they wrote.....

....I mean Bain Consulting literally sat by and helped craft the legislation for the bailouts. Not once, but twice and also against their competitors.

Openly on the floor, this corporation of which Romney supports several: WROTE a huge log of the legislation used in order to pass the trillion dollar stimulus packages.

And you think Americans want this guy in charge of the eagle's nest!?

Anyway you slice it, this is one of the most horrible records anybody's ever seen. I mean we got groups of stealth Ron Paul delegates who openly stand for Mitt Romney, yet not one piece of legislation Romney passed has been conservative or benefit anybody besides the fading public sector.

He really is a nice guy, and on that record you can write the most terrible polices we will ever see in this country. Which is why I hope to God Ron Paul does not eventually take the bait, and decide to be Romney's cabinet secretary/VP or any of the above.

We need Paul/Santorum on a ticket, and/or with Gingrich on the floor....to openly deny Romney the full win. Otherwise he'll put people in a trance and do worse than Obama could ever hope when it comes to communist bailouts.

As the saying goes... "the

As the saying goes... "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" or maybe better worded as, the competitor of my competitor is my friend... & they're all competing against Romney at this point...

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It's in EVERYONE'S best interest

Not to let Romney reach 1,144. Work with ol' Frothy? Well why the hell not?

still good

still good to band with them and stop Romney, so we might have a chance in the brokered convention, if that happens.

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Dr.Ron Paul's 2002 Predictions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

The Campaign Has To Do Something

I don't know the exact delegate numbers, but maybe an alliance would work. Something has to be done because the media has already given Romney the nod and the news I read says Romney has pulled ahead of Santorum in PA polls.

Santorum's already been behind enemy lines, he saw Romney

And Romney's real face is not the one given out to the public, meaning Romney is a snake.

Romney would sell out his own brother if it meant making sure the banks and what not were happy. He voted for the Bailouts three separate times. You think Santorum, who was right beside him & a close friend...you think he didn't notice and catch on?

Romney is one of the worst mistakes we would ever have. He is a true democrat and they could pretty much tell him to bailout anybody. Its just despicable, disgusting, you don't even want to know. Supports the NDAA military detention.

You know there's all these cops, some of which I might wish to support? I mean these police, some of them are really upstanding people. Well you'd be WRONG, and the reason you can't trust cops like that (of which there are many) is because some sickos inside the NSA-Israelist spy agency have taped all their phone calls. Even the "really" upstanding ones are taped & recorded through COMVERSE black boxes. That is not a damn joke. Look up the start of the NSA program in 1995. These law enforcers are malleable, and with only a few adjustments....the NSA can turn even a friendly cop against you without even blinking. That's how messed up government gets when corporations write the check.

I agree. We can't risk

I agree. We can't risk another North Dakota. Both Paul and Santorum were cheated out of delegates. If that didn't wake up the Santorum camp, I don't know what will.

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My take

i think wead may have been bought out.

The Tree of Liberty needs to be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of Patriots and tyrants. It is it's natural manure. -Thomas Jefferson

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man oh man

seems like a lot of wead fanboys here who are unwilling to even look at the possibility he has been co-opted.

he knows what we are facing here, and he may well be trying to put forth what he thinks is the best move... but for how often the people HERE profess "RON PAUL or NO ONE AT ALL" you guys sure seem willing to jump right on the frothy bandwagon.

we dont NEED the frothy camp's support to do this, and we should not be debasing ourselves by allying ourselves with a candidate we have NOTHING in common with. what will that speak to our own credibility?

"The enemy of our enemy is my friend?" Is that how you are looking at this?

The Tree of Liberty needs to be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of Patriots and tyrants. It is it's natural manure. -Thomas Jefferson

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Why? His past connection to

Why? His past connection to Bush?
We both don't know, but I think that's the reason he's in the Paul-camp now. We don't know what he knows. My take, I think he's an asset, he knows his way around the machine. He is great on TV and a perfect counterpoint to Ron Paul that way. Ron = the issues, Doug = the process.

You can't accuse him of selling out the campaign either. He's always been the first to deny any deals and promote the delegates/open convention idea.

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Bump

That's how you play the game.