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What are your thoughts on Reagan?

Just wondering...Reagan seemed to galvanize the conservative vote...was he for real, or an actor? I still remember him telling them to Tear Down This Wall. That seemed to be when all hell broke loose here, or perhaps I was just then old enough to be interested. What are your thoughts. I am always interested in different views.




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An Actor who became a better Actor, aka a Politician

aka a Politician = an actor with PERCEIVED Power.

Reagan probably was a well meaning useful idiot for the NWO Wall St. Banksters whom through their lackeys HIJACKED the American Republic, who like JFK found out the hard way that if he actually thought he was A President and actually tried to follow the Rule of Law and work FOR We the people, "THEY" would surely remind him otherwise, in case he wasn't there at the Presidential Orientation where "THEY" showed him the Zapruder film: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MRykTpw1RQ

Bill Hicks - JFK: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11Fl9ZVJ7B8

John Hinckley, Jr. was just another in a long tradition of 3 word named MKULTRA assassins.

Jerry Seinfeld jokes about it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szzhsGfy4-Q
Jesse Ventura: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylHtSbqer9k

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

I think he was shot because he was a good guy...

There are connections to the Bush crime family in that assassination, along with the JFK and RFK assassinations, and much more.

Watch this...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4330031689287456187

Good in theory, Bad in practice.

He talked the talk, but he didn't walk the walk.

Reagan's rhetoric was great, but his actions never lived up to it.

The Reagan worshiped by today's "conservatives" is a 2 dimensional caricature, completely at odds with Reagan the man.

Check out the Laissez-Faire Journal at LFJournal.com


"The State is a gang of thieves writ large." - Murray Rothbard

I believe Reagan was one of the good guy,

but was in waaayyyy over his head. Sorta like a good kid that fell in with the mob. I just think he didn't have the capacity to overcome the establishment. I mean they tried to kill him.

Regarding Reagan

First President to steal money from our social security fund.
It has been used as a slush fund to enslave us since the early
eighties. Now there is nothing in the fund.

Next, America will be forced to put all other forms of retirement into a government fund to keep it SAFE. Then they will steal the rest of our money.

Also, if you have not heard, Reagan is dead.

Natural Order

Reagan?

Two words: Bohemian Grove.

Two more words

Iran–Contra

If we wait too long we will surely perish!

Pretty simple.....Reagan is Ron Paul!!!

And they tried to kill him twice, for exactly that reason.

After all he started out as Paul, then because of numerous assassination attempts he immediately turned into neoliberal slave soup.

He sold his soul to the liberal lunatics and that was the end. Gold disappeared and was declared illegal.

Ask virtually all old timer conservatives, they'll tell you the same.

Well, we don't *HAVE* another chance at this folks....
This time we got all the militias & everything else to speak of, to stop Paul from being assassinated. Thus finishing the whole bunch of global liberals.

We have to do this thing cleanly, with less bloodshed than was already spilled...we have to do it quickly...& we have to watch the lying liberal media every step of the way.

That's an insult to Ron Paul...

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"Alas! I believe in the virtue of birds. And it only takes a feather for me to die laughing."

To a degree you are right. He went to Bohemian Grove...

He was openly deceived and then flat out threw us out the window. Yep, you got it.

I'll never forgive him for that, make no mistake.
Goldwater and Cleveland never set a single foot in the Bohemian Grove nor would they have, at any point that the Democrat Private Clubs invited each one in.

He talked the talk...

...but didn't walk the walk.

I do wonder though if the attempted assassination had something to do with his abrupt change. Maybe they made him an offer he couldn't refuse?

...or, then again, maybe he was just an actor.

"Alas! I believe in the virtue of birds. And it only takes a feather for me to die laughing."

Attempted Assassination

Brings folks around - at least that's what the Dark Side was betting on... and they won.

Hands down Reagan was the best POTUS since Bretton Woods II... although he still had many faults.

If you want one of the best analysis of Reagan

I have read, look at this by Murray Rothbard, 'Ronald Reagan - an Autopsy'. http://www.lewrockwell.com/rothbard/rothbard60.html

Rothbard brilliant as always

...everyone should read that.

It confirms my own suspicions: that Reagan was just an actor (apparently a bad one), and that the modern neocons idolize him so because he was the perfect fake-conservative.

"Alas! I believe in the virtue of birds. And it only takes a feather for me to die laughing."

Rothbard, really? LOL!

Please. Reagan doubled revenues to the treasury by cutting marginal rates and cap gains. He restored our national identity, and ended the cold war. Figurehead he may have been, though not perfect, he was easily the best president in my 49 years.

^

When did doubling revenue to the treasury become a good idea, no matter how you achieve it? What is restoring national identity and how does that relate to an individualist?

I second that

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"Alas! I believe in the virtue of birds. And it only takes a feather for me to die laughing."

Third

Also, the biggest contributor to the collapse of the Soviet Union, was the Soviet Union.

Check out the Laissez-Faire Journal at LFJournal.com


"The State is a gang of thieves writ large." - Murray Rothbard

Thank you for the link

I checked it out and read it last night.

From what I remember, Reagan

From what I remember, Reagan ran on a small government platform and was endorsed by the Doc, but Reagan didn't follow through on his promises (He crumbled to establishment pressure or something like that). Ron Paul was extremely disappointed in him.

Good guy at heart... maybe. Just didn't have any balls.

I think that's a pretty good

I think that's a pretty good assessment. For Reagan the Soviet Union and winning the cold war was more important than turning back big government socialism in this country. Because of his failure to reduce the size and authority of the government he set the precedent for "big government conservatism" and in this way may be called one of the fathers of neoconservatism.

We became the Soviet Union to defeat the Soviet Union.

Even though they would have fallen apart without our help.

The people who were running the Soviet Union prior to the "fall"

are still running it today, only now they call it Russia. What did we win? BTW, what ever happened to the "Peace Dividend" we were to receive as compensation for the military buildup?

The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself.
Friedrich Nietzsche

The Soviet Union was larger than Russia

Armenia, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Estonia, Georgia, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Latvia, Lithuania, Moldova, Russia, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Ukraine, and Uzbekistan.

It's not inconceivable that that same could happen to the United States.

Biiiiiiig Government

Didn't he get rid of the department of education? Oh no. Didn't he downsize the department of offense? Oh no. Just another big government liberal telling us he was conservative.

This kinda sums up my views.....

see: http://russmo.com/04_06_08.html

The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself.
Friedrich Nietzsche

Ronald ("Cut'n'Run") Reagan?

He was just beginning to get it after the Beirut Bombing, but by and large, he was a fraud. While he did SLOW the GROWTH of governments, they nevertheless expanded under his watch. Both the California Republic AND the Fe'ral occupation govt of the united States.

Being safely dead, now, though, he has become an icon who will no longer contradict the current neocon cabal.

Actually, I think he was a fine actor who at least deserved an Oscar nomination for his turn in King's Row, and certainly was due a lifetime achievement Emmy for his continuing role as "The President."

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