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Gary Johnson: 'no, there shouldn’t be [a drinking age]'

Former New Mexico Gov. Gary Johnson told The Daily Caller that he supports reducing, or even eliminating, the national drinking age.

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My husband grew up in Greece.

He was given a small glass of wine or beer at meal time when he was quite young. Common practice in that country. There was no teenage right-of-passage drinking issues when he grew up - alcohol was not the taboo we make it out to be in the US.

Didn't prohibition teach us anything?

The law cannot make a wicked person virtuous…God’s grace alone can accomplish such a thing.
Ron Paul - The Revolution

Setting a good example is a far better way to spread ideals than through force of arms. Ron Paul

If Prohibition had taught us anything, we wouldn't be fighting

the "War on (some) Drugs".

this is a hard 'one'--

people who cannot govern themselves need to be kept from harming others, but--

regulation is out of control, too--

Too many people are enslaved and reconciled to the 'nanny state' and do not know how to control themselves or their children. This is such a huge problem.

I like the idea of the control being local/county, though.

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

I was surprised to learn that

I was surprised to learn that most European countries actually have age limits in place: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_drinking_age#Europe

I'd always assumed the US was the only country to age-restrict.




its a parental issue

if a drunk kid harms somone he or she and their parents are responsible for damages.

a government should never be in position of dictator parent whereby the individule has to constantly seek permission to live.

Gary Johnson is 100% right!


I agree...

should be up to the parents.

'Cause there's a monster on the loose

If you have to have one at all

It should be at the county level, as with most if not all laws. And of course no law should ever be written that goes against your right to life, liberty or property.


Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom, must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it. ~Thomas Paine

Won't happen at the county level

You won't see this happen at the county level (or probably at all) due to the crusade against drunk driving, which is actually a front for the return to prohibition.

On a historical note, back in the early 70s where I grew up, the drinking age in one of the most populous counties was 21, beer/wine and/or hard liquor. In the outlying smaller counties you could go to beer bars where the drinking age was 18. These bars would also offer live music on the weekends. So 18-21 year-olds were driving to the outlying counties, drinking, and then returning home, usually without a designated driver. That was not a good scenario.

Lest one think from my first statement that I support drunk driving, I don't. But I don't agree with the punishments being doled out by the States for offenses where no harm is done. Being tagged with a criminal record (misdemeanor ) for life, for something you "may" have done, just doesn't seem right. Speeders, texters, doobie smokers, prescription drug takers... perhaps we just need to ban automobiles.

No age restrictions in many

No age restrictions in many other countries.

The world is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good things is my religion. Thomas Paine, Godfather of the American Revolution

Good for Gary. I just hope

Good for Gary. I just hope it isn't too late for a Paul/Johnson ticket but two many egos are probably involved.

A Paul/Johnson ticket would push away evangelicals

Gary Johnson is pro-choice.

“It is not our part to master all the tides of the world, but to do what is in us for the succour of those years wherein we are set, uprooting the evil in the fields that we know, so that those who live after may have clean earth to till." -J.R.R. Tolkien

Well so are many Paul

Well so are many Paul supporters....so you need to come up with a more convincing trump card than that one. A better question to ask is whether Gary, like RP, would leave it completely up to the states. The answer is yes.

Well said. I'd love nothing

Well said. I'd love nothing more than to see a Paul/Johnson ticket on the general election ballot in November.

How many evangelicals would

How many evangelicals would ever consider voting for Paul anyway? From what I can see their love of war far outweighs any claimed support for "life."

this evangelical is

this evangelical is voting for Paul....advocating "Life" with no war, no death penalty, no drug war, and no abortion.

Don't jump to conclusions or make absolute statements, there's always exceptions ;)

I didn't make an absolute

I didn't make an absolute statement. There are always exceptions. I suspect that some Mormons will too. I hope you are right in arguing (are you?) that supporters of Paul are more than small minority of evangelicals.

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That would not be as big an

That would not be as big an issue in the general. Paul would still pull the Evangelicals before Obama or Romney.

Do you really think that many

Do you really think that many pro-Israel/pro-war/pro-WOD evangelicals would prefer Ron to Romney in the general? I think that this is highly unlikely.

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Santorum had been the default

Santorum had been the default choice of evangelicals because of his social policy. Evangelicals were one of the biggest voting groups in the "anyone but Romney" camp during the primaries. I agree the foreign policy issue would be difficult, but that's where messaging comes in to play. How different are Romney and Obama on Israeli, Iran, and general foreign policy issues? Not much. Also remember that this is where Doug Wead plays a huge role and helped tremendously, esp in Iowa, where I believe Paul received much more evangelical support than Romney. Also, Paul has received several high profile evangelical endorsements along the way. And I still think many will have a problem with Romney's Mormonism.

If the conditions were such that there was a Paul/Obama/Romney general, I think there would be about a split between Romney and Paul with the evangelical voting block. Where Johnson would help (in my opinion), would be attracting more of the left of center voting block that have reservations about Paul on the abortion issue for example. That could temper some of those voters who have reservations about his social positions, while being drawn to his anti-war, pro civil liberty, pro-government transparency, anti-crony capitalism positions where he is strong. Johnson also helps out on the economic front. While those on the left could raise objections about Paul's fiscal conservatism, they could leverage Johnson's record as governor where he cut taxes, cut spending, balanced the budget, and vetoed more bills than all other 49 governors combined. That's why I like a Paul / Johnson ticket if it ever came to that. Johnson adds credibility to Paul's rhetoric on fiscal matters where he can show it worked in his state (that also happens to be a 2-to-1 Democratic majority).

We agree. I live in the

We agree. I live in the South, however, and have little hope for the evangelicals. I suspect that a third party would do much, much better in New England and the West....but we probably agree.

I really hope that Paul jumps ship and runs third party but the time clock is ticking and the signs are not good. The LP will decide in less than a month. If Paul waits for AE, it will be awfully hard to pull in folks who who have contributed and worked for Gary in the meantime.

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I'm in the Northeast, so you

I'm in the Northeast, so you would know much better than me regarding the South and Evangelicals. I admit naivete on that and I was just speculating with my earlier post.

I still think the best strategy right now is to overtake the GOP, which despite the media coverage, is gaining enormous wins at the precinct/county levels all around the country. It's truly amazing how organized the grassroots have become in just a few years.

You're right regarding the LP. I believe they nominate in early May and it will probably be Johnson. I don't know what the legal barriers would be, but if Paul would go all the way to the Repub convention and lose, then ideally I would hope that he could somehow join with Johnson on LP at the top of the ticket. Johnson already polls between 7-9% nationally in hypothetical against Obama/Romney with ZERO media coverage. Although there is some overlap, Paul would triple that support right off the bat, and then we would be treated to Paul/Johnson exposing Obama/Biden and Romney/? in the debates.

It is not an easy call.

It is not an easy call. While it is certainly true that RP will come in with far more delegates than the official count, IMHO, there is no way he can win the nomination or block Romney. Even Paul seems to be saying this.

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Regarding your concern about

Regarding your concern about evangelicals, I just saw this timely post and thought I'd pass it along: http://www.dailypaul.com/225991/christian-leader-urges-belie...

Any inroad like that is a

Any inroad like that is a positive sign. As I said, however, I'm surrounded by evangelicals in Alabama and they are either in denial or just plain wrong on the issues. A case in point is "Dr. Gena" an up and coming local evangelical radio host (who will probably go national soon). She sounds just like Paul on so many issues but immediately rejects him because of his lack of slavishness to Israel and his opposition to the WOD.....and she is one of the better ones!