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Ron Paul Flix Interview: Doug Wead Explains Santorum Dropout Impact




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I must say...

I must say that the Lord Jesus did not "lose his temper", but displayed righteous indignation (for He never sinned) and it wasn't because of unequal money exchange (though surely He detests this too), but as was foretold of Him, He declared, "the zeal of Thine house hath eaten me up". He said, "You shall not make my Father's house a house of merchandise." It was zeal for His Father's house which brought out His righteous anger. Let the truth be told.

Since Santorum dropped out, I

Since Santorum dropped out, I wanted to make a handout that focuses on the only 2 viable candidates for the Republican nomination. Paul vs Romney

View it here: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0oRX5D16N4XcnFNUGtCem1ZNE0/...

or download the high res PDF and TIFF versions here: http://www.mediafire.com/?ur39a9e81t9n9

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Ayn Rand

In the interview Doug mentioned how RP questioned Ayn Rand supporters at 17:47 for not "figuring out how a Christian can be a Libertarian" proceeding to explain Jesus' moves. Ironically, it was Rothbard's wife (practicing Christian), who drove her husband (non-practicing Jew) and his followers from Ayn Rand. It got to the point that Murray Rothbard and others had copied some ideas from Ayn Rand in their academic work without giving her any credit or mentioning her name. Cherche la femme :) [btw: Mises had personally loaded Ayn Rand with praises, but stayed neutral regarding "value judgement."]

RP does invaluable work spreading ideas of the founding fathers, Austrian school of economics and Ayn Rand individual liberty. Since many of the founding fathers were Free Masons, few Christians championed idea of individual liberty. Not because there is something wrong with Christianity, but ANY religion, taken to a consistent application, is against individual liberty in its full sense by stressing faith over logic and verifiable knowledge. In reality, the church was in line with socialists calling free-market, banking and speculation a usury.

If RP starts telling us that Jesus supports individual liberty, he will be reduced to Glenn Beck caliber.

You must realize that Jesus'

You must realize that Jesus' teachings are VERY separate from the notions of organized religion and Christianity. Ron Paul is about as close to Thomas Jefferson as you can get, and understanding Jefferson's views on religion might shed some light: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Jefferson_and_religion

He was not a Christian, as many Americans would like to believe. He did not believe in the idea of the trinity, the divinity of Jesus, any of the miracles, or the idea of faith in something without proper reason. He even composed the "Jefferson Bible", which removed all the miracles and extra b.s. and focused on Jesus' moral teachings instead. See, Jefferson actually admired Jesus' moral teachings his entire life, but he detested Christianity. He hated the idea of religion interfering with state matters, introducing The Virginia Statute of Religious Freedom, and worked to suppress religious matters in the walls of the University of Virginia which he founded.

So, Jefferson, in the same way Ron Paul does, respected and praised the moral teachings of Jesus, but despised many elements of Christianity and religion in general.

Liberty|Death

You're so wrong.

"but ANY religion, taken to a consistent application, is against individual liberty in its full sense by stressing faith over logic and verifiable knowledge"

Logic and verifiable knowledge can absolutely co-exist with religious faith. The *application* of such faith (churches, etc.) can at times be very contrived, but the personal belief that someone may have in a creator is the core principle that all religions are based upon. A classic question of belief-vs-practice asked to Christians is "If you were stranded on desert island and couldn't go to church, would you still go to heaven?" The answer is of course "yes", but many people have to really stop and think, which is a problem. The true core of all religions is the belief in something greater, which can absolutely coexist with logic and knowledge (and I'm a scientist, of all things). The details of practice are mostly nuances that don't really matter.

Jesus didn't necessarily support individual liberty from a morality standpoint, but he did support it from a practical standpoint. For example, there are numerous accounts in the various bibles where Jesus is brought somebody committing a sin (e.g. a prostitute) and asked how to punish them. Jesus emplores the others to release and not punish the sinner. The explanation given by Jesus is that one should attempt to change morals not by force, but by setting an example ("being a witness" in religous-speak). And one must have infinite patience and hope that someone will change towards a higher morality.

This *is* the libertarian principle. And TRUE Christians acknowledge that this is the only way to properly lead people towards God, for if somebody doesn't believe in their heart but is simply going through the motions with their body then you haven't done anybody any good. If we were to instead simply put a gun to somebody's head and say "do you believe?" then we'd be no better than the Crusades. Or Rick Santorum.

Dr. Paul gets this. "You cannot legislate morality." And he's right. And Jesus said the same things. The biggest problems with religion have been when man warps it into a justification for forcing certain beliefs on others, usually for purposes of control.

More importantly though, *without* individual liberty, religion is threatened. That has been the case since the beginning of time, through Jesus' time, the Crusades, WW2, etc. And for that reason I - and Dr. Paul - will always view a liberty-believing atheist as a brother.

Go watch Dr. Paul's "Value Voters Straw Poll" speech from 2011. It is one of the few times where he brings his religious beliefs to the forefront in a VERY heavy fashion. He cites tons of scripture, and does a phenomenal job of connecting it to modern-day politics - economic policy, foreign policy, the family... It's one of his best.

Proof God is in favor of individual liberty

I write carefully because it seems that many people make dubious claims that God is on their team. To the extent that a philosophy contains any truth its supports are correct that "God is aligned with them" or, it could be more accurately said, they are aligned with God's truth. Of course all humans and human philosophies fall short of the perfect truth of God.

Finding proof that the God of Judaism and Christianity favors individual liberty is actually quite easy. (The gods of other faiths I do not know and so I cannot write about them definitively.)

The God who made the world and told Adam to name the animals clearly gave him a lot of individual liberty. The God who instructed Adam not to eat the forbidden fruit but still made that choice available to him is either incapable of constraining man’s behavior or he believes in the liberty of each man. But surely the creator could have prevented a bad choice. So apparently He is willing to suffer the consequences of people making the wrong decisions in order to offer liberty to each of us. And suffer He did, but that is another topic.

Some will say, “But surely God intended us to prevent the uneducated from [your favorite terrible action here]?” My response is “Yes, God did make us accountable for how we influence the lives of others. He expects us to be charitable and helpful. He expects us to teach the truth and guide others away from error. But never does he expect us to coerce another, except in the special case of parents in their responsibility for their children.”

Which brings us to some great questions for any believer:

  1. If the omniscient and perfect God of the universe is willing for each man to be free – free to make decisions good or bad - then which man or institution among men should be so bold as to take it upon themselves to interfere?
  2. Why would we empower politicians and governments to coerce behavior when God Himself has granted liberty?
  3. When we demand that others who do not believe as we do follow our moral codes, whose example are we following?

Clear thought reveals that the God of the universe intended for every person to be free and accountable, free to decide what they will do with the opportunities they are given and accountable for the results. That is the path of liberty. It is not a path without pain, but the blessings outweigh the costs.

Since I got

thumb down, I need to elaborate.

Ron Paul in his lamenting confused the issue. It is not about religion per say, but self interest (as always, even in altruism.) Thus, when a religious group is in minority and threatened by other groups & non-believers, they may embrace Libertarian idea. If they are in safe majority, however, they will reject it (like it was all through the history and even now with Pope condemning moral relativism.)

Same applies to business - when business is small, they love free-market. When they find out they cannot compete or achieve monopoly status, they would rather seek government protection claiming dog-eats-dog capitalism is not fair.

Doug Wead should run for

Doug Wead should run for office.

This sign is for all supposed followers of Christ in America.

As a "Christian" I must say that I really like Ron Paul's domestic policies, but his foreign policy is absolutely shear insanity!! To all these holy rollin' , political geniuses I just love to tell these type of people this now famous quote, "I like Ron Paul except for his foreign policy.......I like Jesus except for that part about loving your neighbor."

I really hope that the

I really hope that the Religion of the candidates doesn't become a big issue during this election process. Must I remind you that Dubya was a supposed Christian!! I'm a Mormon who has supported RP hard core ever since 2007 when I was exposed to the message of liberty by one of Aaron Russo's films. I don't like Romney for a list of reasons but his Religion isn't one of them. For many years I really didn't know what religion Ron Paul was neither did I really care, because he had integrity, he was telling the truth, and in America one's Religion really should be one's track record and how one's lived ones life day in and day out!! I just hope all of these mormon haters realize just how many lies, wars, and devastating policies have been sold to the American public by self proclaiming Christians. That's another reason I've always personally really liked RP 'cause he doesn't through around all the religious grande standing, but rather lets his actions and track record do the talking!!! JCM

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Ron Paul FLIX Show - Apr 11 2012 - Doug Wead Explains Santorum Dropout Impact
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I have been in Christian Ministry for 12 years

You really have no idea the lengths that many Christians will go to in order to keep a Mormon from becoming the nominee. Some because of ignorance and hate and others because they have actually researched the history of the Mormon faith and learned some troubling things.

I wish that evangelicals came to Ron Paul on their own and not because he is their last hope but "it is what it is". Go easy on them, they have been fed lies for decades and some good truth from Dr. Paul will help them get some better clarity on the issues.

Let me also say this, I agree with every single position of Ron Paul, I am not one of these "except foreign policy" people. I am a Christian and I support Ron Paul and will uphold the things I have learned from him until the day I go to be with God.

"Once you become knowledgeable, you have an obligation to do something about it."- Ron Paul

Yes, no contradiction in being both Libertarian and Christian

at the same time.

I'm a Christian [Greek-Orthodox like Nassim Taleb] and thanks to RP a Libertarian.
The fight to free everybody from tyranny is compatible to the fight to free oneself from ones own inner passions [or the tyranny of the will].
Allowing others to be free not to follow your beliefs is compatible to allowing oneself not to be enslaved by ones own desires [the tyranny of the will].
Being a Libertarian helps me fight the tyranny of others over me, being a Christian helps me fight my own tyrannical will-to-power.

Great post and excellent comparison of Orthodox Christian...

spirituality and Libertarianism.

I'm also a Greek Orthodox Christian (convert)... Fantastic to find at least one other here on the Daily Paul! Take care, and may you have a blessed Pascha!

Great comment!

I used to be one of the deceived Christians in the church. Many do not study much of the back rounds of the politicians, they tend to think Fox News is a "good" resource for all their information. We are all changing that. Thanks again!

I'm sure it was my imagination, but at the end of the video,

during the musical coda, I was hearing "Please don't vote for Romney".

Wishful thinking?

I love the optimism and information

What I would like Doug Wead to answer is what happens at the State Conventions when the delegates vote for Ron Paul and put their ballot in the Diebold Casino machine that's per programmed to favor Mitt?

What is the campaigns plan to take a proactive approach to this before we even get to that point. The last thing I want to see is some hind site speech on how we were screwed.

Sell me! Let me know the plan?

For Freedom!
The World is my country, all mankind is my brethren, to do good is my religion.

California Libertarians Use the Conga Line

At conventions, the CA LP delegates get in line on one side of the room, and "conga" up to the ballot box, where someone checks credentials, and they put their ballot in the box, then follow the conga line out the door. Once everyone has voted, we come back in and the counting begins.

Sure, it's low tech, but it's fun. (And, no, we don't have a problem with the ballot box being switched while we're out: plenty of observers are still in the room, even if some unprincipled person made it into the convention.)

What do you think? http://consequeries.com/

We count by hand and have observers.. No Machine

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More videos like this

Keep them coming RonPaulFlix, more interviews and more regular updates.

I wish we could flood all states with TV ads or some of the best grassroots videos. Were are the official TV ads with the growing crowds?

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But I still wish he was there on the ballot in November no matter what

so good to hear logic spoken ...

its become so rare these days

Doug Weade is a fine player on Ron Pauls team.

That was funny

at 4:58 he calls the establishment Satan.

That was an awesome Weadism

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I can't listen to the video,

I can't listen to the video, don't have speakers. Can someone give me a quick/short run down of what the video says?

Also: The media's 'Romney's won the nomination' narrative...

may very well backfire on them and unwittingly sabotage their boy, Mitt. That is, it may serve to further diminish an already lower than normal voter turnout which could (let's hope) have the effect of bolstering Dr. Paul's results in the straw polls (as long as that same false narrative doesn't effect the turnout of Ron Paul supporters to the polls...)

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Sure, Relating to Santorum's

Sure,

Relating to Santorum's delegates:

He may choose to unbind them, if not they have to vote for Santorum in the first vote.

If he unbinds them, then not all are Santorum supporters to begin with. They are establishment GOP members who only care that their party wins so will vote for Romney.

Many are also Ron Paul Republicans who will vote for Ron Paul.

Relating to if this is good for the campaign or not:

Christian leaders are holding meetings with the Paul campaign to know what we already know: Whether he is in it to the end. There might be a wave of support from them now that Santorum is gone and Gingrich is looking shaky.

However, chances of a brokered convention are now very slim with Santorum having dropped out and Gingrich looking like he's going to follow suit.

Delegates:

We are doing better than before having swept all the delegates at St. Charles and racking up delegates everywhere even though Romney got one up on us in Nevada.