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HR 1955 Just Passed/6-404

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Dear Mr. Henderson:

Thank you for writing to me regarding S. 1959, the Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007. It is good to hear from you.

As you know, S. 1959, the Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007, was introduced by Senator Susan Collins (R-ME) on August 2, 2007. S. 1959 would establish a National Commission on the Prevention of Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism to examine the root causes of radicalization and homegrown terrorism in the United States and ways to prevent it. S. 1959 would also create a university-based Center of Excellence for the Study of Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism in the United States. It would also require the Secretary of Homeland Security to ensure that research efforts do not violate individuals' constitutional rights or civil liberties.

S. 1959 was referred to the Senate Committee on Homeland Security, of which I am not a member. An identical bill, H.R. 1955, was introduced in the House of Representatives by Congresswoman Jane Harman (D-CA) on April 19, 2007 and passed the House on a 404-6 vote on October 23, 2007.

Should either S. 1959 or H.R. 1955 come before the full Senate, please know that I will keep your views on this issue in mind. If you would like to know more about my work in the Senate, please feel free to sign up for my updates at http://murray.senate.gov/updates. Thank you again for writing, and please keep in touch.

I hope all is well in Oak Harbor.

Dancing Senator?

"It would also require the Secretary of Homeland Security to ensure that research efforts do not violate individuals' constitutional rights or civil liberties."

Right! The same entity (DHS) that propagates the flames and wants growing budgets every year for the synthetic War on Terror is going to make sure your constitutional rights aren't defecated upon!! They think we are stupid.

Why didn't this invertebrate take a stance? Democratic (Communist) Coward!

If this disgusting anti-American legislation flew by in the House (404-6), good luck finding Senators with balls!

Email your senators!

It takes maybe 20 minutes of your time, but it is so necessary to let them know how their constituents stand. They probably think this is a no-brainer to pass and will not even read it. We will make them think twice.

Go to:
http://senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm
choose your state from the dropdown and you can find the contact forms from your senators' websites.

I used excerpts from Ron Paul's speech about the bill in the House to fill in the body of the message, which you can find on the official campaign website.

Make sure that you don't mention Dr. Paul's name, however, so that they don't immediately write you off.

I don't know if this has

I don't know if this has been posted but here is Dr. Paul's speech to the House on this issue.

http://www.house.gov/paul/congrec/congrec2007/cr120507h.htm

Ron Paul Ya'll

Ron Paul Ya'll

Traitors to the left of us and traitors to the right....

Don't these traitors know there in for a terrible fight!!

VOTE OUT ALL INCUMBENTS!!! WHO"S WITH ME?

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The bil does NOTHING

All it does is fund some college professors to study terrorism. The definitions are "for the purpose of THIS ACT ONLY" so that they know what to study.

It makes NOTHING illegal.

It provides NO criminal penalties.

It does not change ANY criminal law in ANY way.

Read it yourself, it's copied below.

The ONLY thing it does is to spend money. That's why Ron Paul voted against it; because he thinks it's a waste of money.

Wrong. http://www.house.gov/p

Wrong.

http://www.house.gov/paul/congrec/congrec2007/cr120507h.htm

Ron Paul Ya'll

Ron Paul Ya'll

In the Senate it's S. 1959

In the Senate it's S. 1959 and the last congressional action according to thomas.loc.gov was 8-2-07; so there's stil time to oppose it to committee members:

http://hsgac.senate.gov/index.cfm?Fuseaction=About.Membership

8/2/2007:
"Read twice and referred to the Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs."

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/vote.xpd?vote=h2007-993

http://freedomfighterradio.net/267/hr1955-violent-radicaliza...

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/C?c110:./temp/~c110QBnMbB Thought Crimes
bill

HR 1955 RFS

110th CONGRESS

1st Session

H. R. 1955

IN THE SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES

October 24, 2007
Received; read twice and referred to the Committee on Homeland Security and
Governmental Affairs

AN ACT
To prevent homegrown terrorism, and for other purposes.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United
States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

This Act may be cited as the `Violent Radicalization and Homegrown
Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007'.

SEC. 2. PREVENTION OF VIOLENT RADICALIZATION AND HOMEGROWN TERRORISM.

(a) In General- Title VIII of the Homeland Security Act of 2002 (6 U.S.C.
361 et seq.) is amended by adding at the end the following new subtitle:

`Subtitle J--Prevention of Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism

`SEC. 899A. DEFINITIONS.

`For purposes of this subtitle:

`(1) COMMISSION- The term `Commission' means the National Commission on
the Prevention of Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism established
under section 899C.

`(2) VIOLENT RADICALIZATION- The term `violent radicalization' means the
process of adopting or promoting an extremist belief system for the purpose
of facilitating ideologically based violence to advance political,
religious, or social change.

`(3) HOMEGROWN TERRORISM- The term `homegrown terrorism' means the use,
planned use, or threatened use, of force or violence by a group or
individual born, raised, or based and operating primarily within the United
States or any possession of the United States to intimidate or coerce the
United States government, the civilian population of the United States, or
any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives.

`(4) IDEOLOGICALLY BASED VIOLENCE- The term `ideologically based
violence' means the use, planned use, or threatened use of force or violence
by a group or individual to promote the group or individual's political,
religious, or social beliefs.

`SEC. 899B. FINDINGS.

`The Congress finds the following:

`(1) The development and implementation of methods and processes that
can be utilized to prevent violent radicalization, homegrown terrorism, and
ideologically based violence in the United States is critical to combating
domestic terrorism.

`(2) The promotion of violent radicalization, homegrown terrorism, and
ideologically based violence exists in the United States and poses a threat
to homeland security.

`(3) The Internet has aided in facilitating violent radicalization,
ideologically based violence, and the homegrown terrorism process in the
United States by providing access to broad and constant streams of
terrorist-related propaganda to United States citizens.

`(4) While the United States must continue its vigilant efforts to
combat international terrorism, it must also strengthen efforts to combat
the threat posed by homegrown terrorists based and operating within the
United States.

`(5) Understanding the motivational factors that lead to violent
radicalization, homegrown terrorism, and ideologically based violence is a
vital step toward eradicating these threats in the United States.

`(6) Preventing the potential rise of self radicalized, unaffiliated
terrorists domestically cannot be easily accomplished solely through
traditional Federal intelligence or law enforcement efforts, and can benefit
from the incorporation of State and local efforts.

`(7) Individuals prone to violent radicalization, homegrown terrorism,
and ideologically based violence span all races, ethnicities, and religious
beliefs, and individuals should not be targeted based solely on race,
ethnicity, or religion.

`(8) Any measure taken to prevent violent radicalization, homegrown
terrorism, and ideologically based violence and homegrown terrorism in the
United States should not violate the constitutional rights, civil rights, or
civil liberties of United States citizens or lawful permanent residents.

`(9) Certain governments, including the United Kingdom, Canada, and
Australia have significant experience with homegrown terrorism and the
United States can benefit from lessons learned by those nations.

`SEC. 899C. NATIONAL COMMISSION ON THE PREVENTION OF VIOLENT RADICALIZATION
AND IDEOLOGICALLY BASED VIOLENCE.

`(a) Establishment- There is established within the legislative branch of
the Government the National Commission on the Prevention of Violent
Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism.

`(b) Purpose- The purposes of the Commission are the following:

`(1) Examine and report upon the facts and causes of violent
radicalization, homegrown terrorism, and ideologically based violence in the
United States, including United States connections to non-United States
persons and networks, violent radicalization, homegrown terrorism, and
ideologically based violence in prison, individual or `lone wolf' violent
radicalization, homegrown terrorism, and ideologically based violence, and
other faces of the phenomena of violent radicalization, homegrown terrorism,
and ideologically based violence that the Commission considers important.

`(2) Build upon and bring together the work of other entities and avoid
unnecessary duplication, by reviewing the findings, conclusions, and
recommendations of--

`(A) the Center of Excellence established or designated under section
899D, and other academic work, as appropriate;

`(B) Federal, State, local, or tribal studies of, reviews of, and
experiences with violent radicalization, homegrown terrorism, and
ideologically based violence; and

`(C) foreign government studies of, reviews of, and experiences with
violent radicalization, homegrown terrorism, and ideologically based
violence.

`(c) Composition of Commission- The Commission shall be composed of 10
members appointed for the life of the Commission, of whom--

`(1) one member shall be appointed by the President from among officers
or employees of the executive branch and private citizens of the United
States;

`(2) one member shall be appointed by the Secretary;

`(3) one member shall be appointed by the majority leader of the Senate;

`(4) one member shall be appointed by the minority leader of the Senate;

`(5) one member shall be appointed by the Speaker of the House of
Representatives;

`(6) one member shall be appointed by the minority leader of the House
of Representatives;

`(7) one member shall be appointed by the Chairman of the Committee on
Homeland Security of the House of Representatives;

`(8) one member shall be appointed by the ranking minority member of the
Committee on Homeland Security of the House of Representatives;

`(9) one member shall be appointed by the Chairman of the Committee on
Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs of the Senate; and

`(10) one member shall be appointed by the ranking minority member of
the Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs of the Senate.

`(d) Chair and Vice Chair- The Commission shall elect a Chair and a Vice
Chair from among its members.

`(e) Qualifications- Individuals shall be selected for appointment to the
Commission solely on the basis of their professional qualifications,
achievements, public stature, experience, and expertise in relevant fields,
including, but not limited to, behavioral science, constitutional law,
corrections, counterterrorism, cultural anthropology, education, information
technology, intelligence, juvenile justice, local law enforcement, organized
crime, Islam and other world religions, sociology, or terrorism.

`(f) Deadline for Appointment- All members of the Commission shall be
appointed no later than 60 days after the date of enactment of this
subtitle.

`(g) Quorum and Meetings- The Commission shall meet and begin the
operations of the Commission not later than 30 days after the date on which
all members have been appointed or, if such meeting cannot be mutually
agreed upon, on a date designated by the Speaker of the House of
Representatives. Each subsequent meeting shall occur upon the call of the
Chair or a majority of its members. A majority of the members of the
Commission shall constitute a quorum, but a lesser number may hold meetings.

`(h) Authority of Individuals to Act for Commission- Any member of the
Commission may, if authorized by the Commission, take any action that the
Commission is authorized to take under this Act.

`(i) Powers of Commission- The powers of the Commission shall be as
follows:

`(1) IN GENERAL-

`(A) HEARINGS AND EVIDENCE- The Commission or, on the authority of the
Commission, any subcommittee or member thereof, may, for the purpose of
carrying out this section, hold hearings and sit and act at such times and
places, take such testimony, receive such evidence, and administer such
oaths as the Commission considers advisable to carry out its duties.

`(B) CONTRACTING- The Commission may, to such extent and in such
amounts as are provided in appropriation Acts, enter into contracts to
enable the Commission to discharge its duties under this section.

`(2) INFORMATION FROM FEDERAL AGENCIES-

`(A) IN GENERAL- The Commission may request directly from any
executive department, bureau, agency, board, commission, office, independent
establishment, or instrumentality of the Government, information,
suggestions, estimates, and statistics for the purposes of this section. The
head of each such department, bureau, agency, board, commission, office,
independent establishment, or instrumentality shall, to the extent
practicable and authorized by law, furnish such information, suggestions,
estimates, and statistics directly to the Commission, upon request made by
the Chair of the Commission, by the chair of any subcommittee created by a
majority of the Commission, or by any member designated by a majority of the
Commission.

`(B) RECEIPT, HANDLING, STORAGE, AND DISSEMINATION- The Committee and
its staff shall receive, handle, store, and disseminate information in a
manner consistent with the operative statutes, regulations, and Executive
orders that govern the handling, storage, and dissemination of such
information at the department, bureau, agency, board, commission, office,
independent establishment, or instrumentality that responds to the request.

`(j) Assistance From Federal Agencies-

`(1) GENERAL SERVICES ADMINISTRATION- The Administrator of General
Services shall provide to the Commission on a reimbursable basis
administrative support and other services for the performance of the
Commission's functions.

`(2) OTHER DEPARTMENTS AND AGENCIES- In addition to the assistance
required under paragraph (1), departments and agencies of the United States
may provide to the Commission such services, funds, facilities, and staff as
they may determine advisable and as may be authorized by law.

`(k) Postal Services- The Commission may use the United States mails in
the same manner and under the same conditions as departments and agencies of
the United States.

`(l) Nonapplicability of Federal Advisory Committee Act- The Federal
Advisory Committee Act (5 U.S.C. App.) shall not apply to the Commission.

`(m) Public Meetings-

`(1) IN GENERAL- The Commission shall hold public hearings and meetings
to the extent appropriate.

`(2) PROTECTION OF INFORMATION- Any public hearings of the Commission
shall be conducted in a manner consistent with the protection of information
provided to or developed for or by the Commission as required by any
applicable statute, regulation, or Executive order including subsection
(i)(2)(B).

`(n) Staff of Commission-

`(1) APPOINTMENT AND COMPENSATION- The Chair of the Commission, in
consultation with the Vice Chair and in accordance with rules adopted by the
Commission, may appoint and fix the compensation of a staff director and
such other personnel as may be necessary to enable the Commission to carry
out its functions, without regard to the provisions of title 5, United
States Code, governing appointments in the competitive service, and without
regard to the provisions of chapter 51 and subchapter III of chapter 53 of
such title relating to classification and General Schedule pay rates, except
that no rate of pay fixed under this subsection may exceed the maximum rate
of pay for GS-15 under the General Schedule.

`(2) STAFF EXPERTISE- Individuals shall be selected for appointment as
staff of the Commission on the basis of their expertise in one or more of
the fields referred to in subsection (e).

`(3) PERSONNEL AS FEDERAL EMPLOYEES-

`(A) IN GENERAL- The executive director and any employees of the
Commission shall be employees under section 2105 of title 5, United States
Code, for purposes of chapters 63, 81, 83, 84, 85, 87, 89, and 90 of that
title.

`(B) MEMBERS OF COMMISSION- Subparagraph (A) shall not be construed to
apply to members of the Commission.

`(4) DETAILEES- Any Federal Government employee may be detailed to the
Commission without reimbursement from the Commission, and during such detail
shall retain the rights, status, and privileges of his or her regular
employment without interruption.

`(5) CONSULTANT SERVICES- The Commission may procure the services of
experts and consultants in accordance with section 3109 of title 5, United
States Code, but at rates not to exceed the daily rate paid a person
occupying a position at level IV of the Executive Schedule under section
5315 of title 5, United States Code.

`(6) EMPHASIS ON SECURITY CLEARANCES- The Commission shall make it a
priority to hire as employees and retain as contractors and detailees
individuals otherwise authorized by this section who have active security
clearances.

`(o) Commission Personnel Matters-

`(1) COMPENSATION OF MEMBERS- Each member of the Commission who is not
an employee of the government shall be compensated at a rate not to exceed
the daily equivalent of the annual rate of basic pay in effect for a
position at level IV of the Executive Schedule under section 5315 of title
5, United States Code, for each day during which that member is engaged in
the actual performance of the duties of the Commission.

`(2) TRAVEL EXPENSES- While away from their homes or regular places of
business in the performance of services for the Commission, members of the
Commission shall be allowed travel expenses, including per diem in lieu of
subsistence, at rates authorized for employees of agencies under subchapter
I of chapter 57 of title 5, United States Code, while away from their homes
or regular places of business in the performance of services for the
Commission.

`(3) TRAVEL ON ARMED FORCES CONVEYANCES- Members and personnel of the
Commission may travel on aircraft, vehicles, or other conveyances of the
Armed Forces of the United States when such travel is necessary in the
performance of a duty of the Commission, unless the cost of commercial
transportation is less expensive.

`(4) TREATMENT OF SERVICE FOR PURPOSES OF RETIREMENT BENEFITS- A member
of the Commission who is an annuitant otherwise covered by section 8344 or
8468 of title 5, United States Code, by reason of membership on the
Commission shall not be subject to the provisions of such section with
respect to membership on the Commission.

`(5) VACANCIES- A vacancy on the Commission shall not affect its powers
and shall be filled in the manner in which the original appointment was
made. The appointment of the replacement member shall be made not later than
60 days after the date on which the vacancy occurs.

`(p) Security Clearances- The heads of appropriate departments and
agencies of the executive branch shall cooperate with the Commission to
expeditiously provide Commission members and staff with appropriate security
clearances to the extent possible under applicable procedures and
requirements.

`(q) Reports-

`(1) FINAL REPORT- Not later than 18 months after the date on which the
Commission first meets, the Commission shall submit to the President and
Congress a final report of its findings and conclusions, legislative
recommendations for immediate and long-term countermeasures to violent
radicalization, homegrown terrorism, and ideologically based violence, and
measures that can be taken to prevent violent radicalization, homegrown
terrorism, and ideologically based violence from developing and spreading
within the United States, and any final recommendations for any additional
grant programs to support these purposes. The report may also be accompanied
by a classified annex.

`(2) INTERIM REPORTS- The Commission shall submit to the President and
Congress--

`(A) by not later than 6 months after the date on which the Commission
first meets, a first interim report on--

`(i) its findings and conclusions and legislative recommendations
for the purposes described in paragraph (1); and

`(ii) its recommendations on the feasibility of a grant program
established and administered by the Secretary for the purpose of preventing,
disrupting, and mitigating the effects of violent radicalization, homegrown
terrorism, and ideologically based violence and, if such a program is
feasible, recommendations on how grant funds should be used and
administered; and

`(B) by not later than 6 months after the date on which the Commission
submits the interim report under subparagraph (A), a second interim report
on such matters.

`(3) INDIVIDUAL OR DISSENTING VIEWS- Each member of the Commission may
include in each report under this subsection the individual additional or
dissenting views of the member.

`(4) PUBLIC AVAILABILITY- The Commission shall release a public version
of each report required under this subsection.

`(r) Availability of Funding- Amounts made available to the Commission to
carry out this section shall remain available until the earlier of the
expenditure of the amounts or the termination of the Commission.

`(s) Termination of Commission- The Commission shall terminate 30 days
after the date on which the Commission submits its final report.

`SEC. 899D. CENTER OF EXCELLENCE FOR THE STUDY OF VIOLENT RADICALIZATION AND
HOMEGROWN TERRORISM IN THE UNITED STATES.

`(a) Establishment- The Secretary of Homeland Security shall establish or
designate a university-based Center of Excellence for the Study of Violent
Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism in the United States (hereinafter
referred to as `Center') following the merit-review processes and procedures
and other limitations that have been previously established for selecting
and supporting University Programs Centers of Excellence. The Center shall
assist Federal, State, local and tribal homeland security officials through
training, education, and research in preventing violent radicalization and
homegrown terrorism in the United States. In carrying out this section, the
Secretary may choose to either create a new Center designed exclusively for
the purpose stated herein or identify and expand an existing Department of
Homeland Security Center of Excellence so that a working group is
exclusively designated within the existing Center of Excellence to achieve
the purpose set forth in subsection (b).

`(b) Purpose- It shall be the purpose of the Center to study the social,
criminal, political, psychological, and economic roots of violent
radicalization and homegrown terrorism in the United States and methods that
can be utilized by Federal, State, local, and tribal homeland security
officials to mitigate violent radicalization and homegrown terrorism.

`(c) Activities- In carrying out this section, the Center shall--

`(1) contribute to the establishment of training, written materials,
information, analytical assistance and professional resources to aid in
combating violent radicalization and homegrown terrorism;

`(2) utilize theories, methods and data from the social and behavioral
sciences to better understand the origins, dynamics, and social and
psychological aspects of violent radicalization and homegrown terrorism;

`(3) conduct research on the motivational factors that lead to violent
radicalization and homegrown terrorism; and

`(4) coordinate with other academic institutions studying the effects of
violent radicalization and homegrown terrorism where appropriate.

`SEC. 899E. PREVENTING VIOLENT RADICALIZATION AND HOMEGROWN TERRORISM
THROUGH INTERNATIONAL COOPERATIVE EFFORTS.

`(a) International Effort- The Secretary shall, in cooperation with the
Department of State, the Attorney General, and other Federal Government
entities, as appropriate, conduct a survey of methodologies implemented by
foreign nations to prevent violent radicalization and homegrown terrorism in
their respective nations.

`(b) Implementation- To the extent that methodologies are permissible
under the Constitution, the Secretary shall use the results of the survey as
an aid in developing, in consultation with the Attorney General, a national
policy in the United States on addressing radicalization and homegrown
terrorism.

`(c) Reports to Congress- The Secretary shall submit a report to Congress
that provides--

`(1) a brief description of the foreign partners participating in the
survey; and

`(2) a description of lessons learned from the results of the survey and
recommendations implemented through this international outreach.

`SEC. 899F. PROTECTING CIVIL RIGHTS AND CIVIL LIBERTIES WHILE PREVENTING
IDEOLOGICALLY BASED VIOLENCE AND HOMEGROWN TERRORISM.

`(a) In General- The Department of Homeland Security's efforts to prevent
ideologically based violence and homegrown terrorism as described herein
shall not violate the constitutional rights, civil rights, or civil
liberties of United States citizens or lawful permanent residents.

`(b) Commitment to Racial Neutrality- The Secretary shall ensure that the
activities and operations of the entities created by this subtitle are in
compliance with the Department of Homeland Security's commitment to racial
neutrality.

`(c) Auditing Mechanism- The Civil Rights and Civil Liberties Officer of
the Department of Homeland Security shall develop and implement an auditing
mechanism to ensure that compliance with this subtitle does not violate the
constitutional rights, civil rights, or civil liberties of any racial,
ethnic, or religious group, and shall include the results of audits under
such mechanism in its annual report to Congress required under section
705.'.

(b) Clerical Amendment- The table of contents in section 1(b) of such Act
is amended by inserting at the end of the items relating to title VIII the
following:

`Subtitle J--Prevention of Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism

`Sec. 899A. Definitions.

`Sec. 899B. Findings.

`Sec. 899C. National Commission on the Prevention of Violent
Radicalization and Ideologically Based Violence.

`Sec. 899D. Center of Excellence for the Study of Violent Radicalization
and Homegrown Terrorism in the United States.

`Sec. 899E. Preventing violent radicalization and homegrown terrorism
through international cooperative efforts.

`Sec. 899F. Protecting civil rights and civil liberties while preventing
ideologically based violence and homegrown terrorism.'.
Passed the House of Representatives October 23, 2007.

Attest:

LORRAINE C. MILLER,

Clerk.

END

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This Congressman Admits He Hadn't Read It

Vote RON PAUL 2008
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A citizen ask Congressman Waxman his thoughts on 1955 // He replies he hadn't read it. He hadn't considered it important enough to read.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wei_hJdwkxY

Now that's scary as hell.

Vote RON PAUL 2008

H.R. 3835 - Support RP's bill, Say Yes

The American Freedom Agenda Act of 2007 (H.R. 3835), which addresses most of the issues outlined below, was introduced by U.S. Rep. Ron Paul on October 15, 2007. Click http://www.americanfreedomcampaign.org/storage/afagenda/docu... to read the text of the bill.)

More people NEED to hear about this! This Proves Ron Paul!

Big Media is not covering it! The only way to get more people to know about it is to TELL people. I told everyone in my work this morning about it and had MANY other people I have never met before come ask me what I was talking about! Make sure you have the proof that what your saying is true so they have NO WAY of denying it. If you get the chance to ask one of the other candidates about this (on TV would be awesome!) DO IT. Scream It! Proof of Government and Media Corruption is OBVIOUS in these programs. HR 1955 is being PUSHED into REALITY behind our backs and being signed by the MAJORITY of the lawmakers. Programs such as the Patriot Act, NAFTA, NAU, 2nd Ammedment case going to the Supreme Court to determine if the Constitution Allows ANY ownership of firearms!! Its an all out attack from all fronts on our rights and it IS NOT being addressed. WE have to make people aware of this. And once we do, the truthfulness of RON PAULS message WILL be realized.

Watch their hands - especially when in pockets - at all times

Before they joined the CFR and after - symbols of power passed down by the ancients. Too dumb to realize we killed Homo-erectus and Neanderthal.

"I have found an honest man."

Diogenes of Sinope

"I have found an honest man."

Diogenes of Sinope

US Senate reconvenes on January 22nd

Please email and call every single U.S. Senator to stop HR1955/S1959. Try to find just one Senator who doesn't like it and beg him to fillibuster it. It's our only chance to stop it.

404 to 6

That bill passed 404 to 6. Only 6 opposed it. Just amazing. All of our elected representatives are not ALL in on the conspiracy, are they? How could this be?

Which leads me to one of two possible conclusions. Either this bill isn't so bad afterall, or there is some even more sinister power at work here, a powerful delusional spiritual power.
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"It is useless for sheep to pass a resolution in favor of vegetarianism while wolves remain of a different opinion." William Randolph Inge

Ron Paul's words on HR 1955

Remarks on Violent Radicalization & Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act, HR 1955
http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul428.html

"Always vote your principle, though you may vote alone, and you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost." -John Quincy Adams.

I just visited dailykos and

I just visited dailykos and did a search on this bill. I came up with nothing. How could they be ignoring this? Anyone know?

The Reat Source of Terrorism

In case you haven't noticed, the Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism are coming out of Washington. It is our politicians who have brought terrorism to our shores. They have made the American people the target of the terrorists. Now, they are going to protect us by taking away our freedom.

All the more reason to spread Ron Paul's message of Constitutional government.

Please sign this online

Please sign this online petition:

"IN OPPOSITION to H.R. 1955 and S. 1959: Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007"
hosted on the web by PetitionOnline.com, the free online petition
service, at: http://www.PetitionOnline.com/19551959/

Dear I wontbackdown

Thank you for posting the petition. Perhaps post the petition in a new forum to get more signatures?

Sign Against 1955

It is easy. See the link above. Write your Senator, but also sign this.
ONLY 2700 PEOPLE HAVE SIGNED. Come on Ron Paul people ...you are hugely against this bill. Please sign.

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E-mail your senators in opposition to S.1959

and send them a link to the petition.
You can find & e-mail your senator via the below link.
http://www.senate.gov/

Thanks for the links

My first exposure to Naomi Wolf.

There's so much information to absorb upon "waking up", but that's a good thing (overwhelming though). This Revolution is huge and growing everyday.

inflamatory language

Why couldn't this be applied both ways? For instance, am I the only one getting tired of hearing RP referred to as an insurgent? We've all heard this word countless times to mean 'the enemy'. Why the heck is our beloved Dr. Paul being labled this way without a challenge?

Guess what country leader .....

Try to guess what country leaders have said the following statements.

1)"What good fortune for those in power, that people don't think."

2)"Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to greater danger. It works the same in any country."

3)An evil exists that threatens every man, woman,and child of this great nation. We must take steps to ensure our domestic security and protect our Homeland.

1) Hitler 2) Hitlers second in command 3) Hitler

Does any of this sound familiar to any of you.

funny who didn't vote...

I realize that the numbers are staggering, however Ron Paul wasn't present to vote, Dennis Kucinich voted against it.

I just don't understand how these people can take an oath to uphold and defend the constitution and vote to pass something like this. Sure in a generality look at the bill it may seem ok and well intended, however if you take a hard look at the VAGUE definitions set forth in it...sigh...Ron Paul is our only hope!

I just felt I needed to vent a bit I guess

Contact your Senators!!!

I challange all of my fellow minuteman patriots who arose so magnificently and pratically shut down congress this past summer in our succesfull defeat of the illegal alien amnesty bill to do the same to this treasonous legislation. I would have never thought a bill more hideous than that could have been proposed but please read over it. This is far more damaging, in that if past, we will not be able to do the same thing again!!! We WILL be supressed next time, I know, after the election, depending on who wins, they WILL bring amnesty back. Count on it.

Sorry, the link didn't work

Sorry, the link didn't work to sign petition, but it does in my other post.
(above)

Read the wording VERY Closely

Read the wording VERY closely... It says "should follow" the consitution on one part and "shall follow" the constitution on another (in regards to doing surveys it says "shall"). Should and Shall mean two very diffrent things to me

HR 1955 passed in the House, not the Senate

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h110-1955

The Senate still hasn't voted on the bill according to the above link. "Just passed" was back in October, 2007, in the House of Representatives.

Why Paul didn't vote and so many did

The reason why Ron Paul didn't vote for this bill was that it was rushed through the House while he was gone. Consider what Ron Paul said about this bill:

I regret that I was unavoidably out of town on October 23, 2007, when a vote was taken on HR 1955, the Violent Radicalization & Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act. Had I been able to vote, I would have voted against this misguided and dangerous piece of legislation. This legislation focuses the weight of the US government inward toward its own citizens under the guise of protecting us against "violent radicalization."

I would like to note that this legislation was brought to the floor for a vote under suspension of regular order. These so-called "suspension" bills are meant to be non-controversial, thereby negating the need for the more complete and open debate allowed under regular order. It is difficult for me to believe that none of my colleagues in Congress view HR 1955, with its troubling civil liberties implications, as "non-controversial."

As a partial excuse to the 404 congressmen who voted for this bill, most of them probably didn't even read it. It was probably pitched as a bill to start researching how other countries handle domestic terrorism (which is what most of the bill is about). They probably didn't realize that it defined domestic terrorism and could be used in that way. I think this is why the bill has stalled in committee in the Senate (though there is still certainly reason to remain vigilant concerning its progress). This is a partial excuse because every congressmen should read their bills fully before voting.

Why Paul didn't vote and so many did

The reason why Ron Paul didn't vote for this bill was that it was rushed through the House while he was gone. Consider what Ron Paul said about this bill:

I regret that I was unavoidably out of town on October 23, 2007, when a vote was taken on HR 1955, the Violent Radicalization & Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act. Had I been able to vote, I would have voted against this misguided and dangerous piece of legislation. This legislation focuses the weight of the US government inward toward its own citizens under the guise of protecting us against "violent radicalization."

I would like to note that this legislation was brought to the floor for a vote under suspension of regular order. These so-called "suspension" bills are meant to be non-controversial, thereby negating the need for the more complete and open debate allowed under regular order. It is difficult for me to believe that none of my colleagues in Congress view HR 1955, with its troubling civil liberties implications, as "non-controversial."

As a partial excuse to the 404 congressmen who voted for this bill, most of them probably didn't even read it. It was probably pitched as a bill to start researching how other countries handle domestic terrorism (which is what most of the bill is about). They probably didn't realize that it defined domestic terrorism and could be used in that way. I think this is why the bill has stalled in committee in the Senate (though there is still certainly reason to remain vigilant concerning its progress). This is a partial excuse because every congressmen should read their bills fully before voting.

Take Action...

This is what I sent to my Senator a while back:

I am highly concerned about a bill called the "Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terroism Prevention Act of 2007 (H.R. 1955), also known as the "Thought Crimes Act". The titles alone are quite ominous as is the VAGUE language of the bill. I understand it is now in the Senate as S. 1959? I respectfully ask that you carefully study the language and I request that you please give me a response so that I can pass along your interpertation to other Colorado residents. I, with a majority of citizens interpert it as being a direct assault on our First Amendment Rights, including communications via the Internet.
Please reject this highly unconstitutional measure.
Thank you for your valuable time and consideration.

Senator Allard's response:
Thank you for contacting me to express your concerns for our nation's national security and the notion of federal infringement on American civil liberties. I appreciate you taking the time write on such an important issue.
Because of 9/11 and the London subway bombings, all areas of national security need to be addressed. As of late, the United States has been subject to an increase in radical Islamists born here in our own country. This group of people has added new dangers to our national security.
On April 19, 2007, Representative Jane Harman introduced House Bill 1955, the Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007. H.R. 1955 would direct the Secretary of Homeland Security to establish a grant program to prevent the use of an extremist belief system for facilitating ideologically-based violence in the United States. Additionally, the bill would establish or designate a university-based Center of Excellence for the Study of Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism in the United States and conduct a survey of methodologies implemented by foreign nations to prevent radicalization and homegrown terrorism.
The Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007 passed the House of Representatives with a vote of 404 to 6. Currently, the bill has been read twice and sent to the Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs.
As your Senator, I have always worked diligently and taken precautions to protect the rights of every individual to privacy and from government intrusion. We must strike a balance between protecting an individual's civil rights and the government's duty to defend the country. As more issues, amendments, and bills come before the Senate for consideration, please be assured I will keep your thoughts and comments in mind.

Also, I signed this petition a while back:

"IN OPPOSITION to H.R. 1955 and S. 1959: Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007"
hosted on the web by PetitionOnline.com, the free online petition
service, at:
http://www.PetitionOnline.com/19551959/
I personally agree with what this petition says, and I think you might
agree, too. If you can spare a moment, please take a look, and consider
signing yourself.
We are only going to make a difference if we respond in LARGE numbers. Last I checked, it is still our country and we must TAKE it back!

Translation: More Spending

That's what I think of his response

Six NO votes! I think the

Six NO votes! I think the good Dr. just found some good qualified cabinet members!

If voting no

for this blatant piece of fascist legislation qualifies you for the cabinet, we're in big trouble. I hope the bar is a little higher.

This is why they want our troops overseas

They know a lot of troops support Ron Paul and the Constitution. They must keep them far away. Interesting how most of our troops are gone yet Blackwater is building a new base right here in San Diego.

Where in San Diego? I used

Where in San Diego? I used to live there.

Test this Bill

Does anyone think that we should test this bill, as a group, in every city, in every state, all on the same day??????? We can raise more money in one 24 hour day, can we put this ridicules Bill to a test, can they really put us all in jail????

Plans for Civilian Internment

I'm sure they're ready for us. I think I'll wait for Ron Paul to get elected first.

This is off Ted L. Gunderson site. He was a Senior FBI Special Agent-in-Charge.

Plans for Civilian Internment:
Stalag 17 American Style

By Mary Louise
http://www.tedgunderson.com/Articles/Plans%20for%20Civilian%...

This site has more information...

FEMA CAMPS in the U.S.
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/camps.htm

 

"The Price Of Freedom Is Eternal Vigilance."
Thomas Jefferson

HR 1955 and other unconstitutional legeslation

1: The Bill should never have passed

2: Ron Paul should have voted,,, this bothers me a lot. I don't care how busy he is. It would have made splendid headlines. Think about it.

3: These people don't give a hoot about the constitution. They now have a militarized police, god know how many alphabet Federal Agencies and the military. Even my hero MacArthur went against veterans in the 1930's who just wanted bonus money promised them.

4: A large segment of RP supporters won't leave their comfy chairs to vote. I have seen people I know pass up empty polling stations en route to work or home with plenty of time. With that in mind RP won't be elected no matter how much you blog!

5: The reason they passed the bill is us. They need to shut everyone up and they know it. They also know they have us believing we have to obey all unconstitutional law passed, That said, bullying us won't be a problem for now.

6: Read an article on WorldNetDaily where a sheriff and ten swat team members invaded a home. The reason for using a swat team was,
"the father was a "self-proclaimed constitutionalist" and had made threats and "comments" over the years" of course the sheriff couldn't remember anything specific to support his statement.

7:Scumming it up, We're toast. In less than ten years most of us will be good little corporate fascists saluting our leader/s.

Get ready for it...

flyboy

Ron Paul DID vote and

Ron Paul DID vote and comment on it!
See who authored and voted for this piece of literate affront:
Go to: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_House_Resolution_1955
Shame on them!! The same right they are trying to eradicate is the same one they used to write this atrocity!

May God help us!!

HR 1955 *IS* dangerous!

Just reading through the definitions:

"planned use, or threatened use, of FORCE ..."

to " intimidate or coerce the United States government, the civilian population of the United States, or ANY SEGMENT thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives "

"to promote the group or individual's POLITICAL, religious, or SOCIAL
beliefs..."

For anyone who doubts the insidious nature of this proposed legislation, hmm, let me think of a present-day example:

** A group or individual (RP supporter(s)) used or planned to use FORCE (BOYCOTT) against ANY SEGMENT of the population (a corporation operating in the U.S. - Fox) to promote their POLITICAL BELIEFS (promoting RP's message of economic freedom & individual liberties for Americans) ... **

See how this can be used?! Very frightening, indeed!

As for "protecting constitutional rights" - that is an argument easily subdued (in the current environment) in the name of "national security" and other such nonsense. (remember how they play with the term "enemy combatant" to deny U.S. citizens their rights)

So, please, call your Senators and create an uproar to avoid this passing!

And call your Reps too! Even if they voted for it as almost all did, with enough of a backlash they may take action -they still have influence with the Senators, and may be able to help sway a Senate no vote if they report that this is making constituents VERY angry!

Working for US policy in the mideast that serves AMERICA's interests http://www.councilforthenationalinterest.org/

Just sent this to my Representatives.Feel free to use the Format

Representative Rofles,

I am absolutely sickened by the knowledge that Washington State Voted for approval of HR 1955. This Act is based on a foundation that appears VERY un-constitutional and I DO NOT SUPPORT it. I request that you review HR 1955 and compare it to what our Constitution says and I am very sure you will find a huge discrepancany and lack of oversight. The Act also clearly states this act will be in compliance with the Constitution but it is clearly not enforceable or usable using this pretext. It hints that any "force" can result in prosecution. I may be wrong but any action that creates a reaction can be considered a "force" and this can be applied to pretty much everything to include public speech. It also hints a loss of National Sovereignty by using foreign governments to assist in making our nation policies, loss of personal privacy, a "preemptive strike" mentality, a mentality that we ”grow" terrorist in our own country, and even hints that the internet will become moderated. HR 1977 is VERY bad idea as it is vague on its purpose and appears to be extremely flexible in its scope/implementation. This could result in massive restrictions on free speech, profiling of citizen’s, etc. Again I plead with you to consider the validity of this ACT and to press on its destruction. I will be sending a copy to many of other people within your district and I am sure they will not be very please with what they read, Again I plead with you to do what ever you can to have this ACT destroyed at the earliest opportunity.

Thank you for your time and please contact me concerning your position on this.

Time to email and call all U.S. Senators

Click on U.S. Senator's name, then click on "Contact Me" for email address. In your email ask for a response.

http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_c...

Use Ron Paul's Statement on HR 1955 to help write your email:

http://www.house.gov/paul/congrec/congrec2007/cr120507h.htm

You'll be sorry if this bill passes and you didn't try to stop it.

Sad to say

that my MN senator (Norm Coleman) co sponsored this bill. I did contact him this past fall, and received a reply exactly like the one received by iwontbackdown, posted above. Nice to see we the people are sent from letters addressing our concerns.

"One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors."
- Plato

"One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors."
- Plato

I have contacted my

I have contacted my Louisiana Senators. Please do contact yours!

The WORDS are very important in this......

You all BETTER read this and try to think LIKE a lawyer. There is alot of room for interpritation in their wording. I really pissed off about this so please forgive me if i miss represent it. Please READ it and make your own opinions.

I really like the part about how they select their commissions members... seems at least 4 of the are right out of the Homeland Defense agency and depending on who the other members are selected it could be VERY ugly.

Note that its hinted they will be putting this program into schools . "shall establish or designated a university based center of excellence for the study of...... (does this mean you will soon be able to get a degree in HOMEGROWN TERRORIST'S?)

Not that in says the Qualifications of individuals being selected for appointment to the commision are that they can use terrorism (does this mean they can use known terrorist? Doesnt say its pretty vague), foreign governments, behavioral scientists, counterterrorism, information technology (this would be TV/internet/telephone/etc/cell phone/computers/blah blah blah) , juvenille justice (your kids), organized crime, etc,etc,etc, (THIS IS VERY SCARRY)

Its also noted that they mention the Internet being a risk..... How is it we got the word out about Ron Paul. If we loose the internet we loose EVERYTHING. It has been shown the media only shows you want they want you to see. Take a look and then ask yourself why it has not be in main stream media: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=59566 They do not want you to know and the internet is their only weak spot they have not been able to regulate (yet).

I wouldn't sweat it.

First of all it IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL. And thanks to us it is breathing again and alive. They can't lock us all up and we are not going away and we are growing too fast. Their situation rooms probably look like the floor of the stock market during a sell-off!!!

We STILL have 3 branches of government. Anyone arrested under this law will have enough support and lawyers to take it to the supreme court. That is the checks and balances that WE are fighting for. Civil Disobedience is not against the law. Just don't get physical and don't threaten with violence. Being toooo loud with derogatory remarks could spunk some cops. But the cops are still people. They aren't those THUGS from BlackWater... YET!

It's basically CFR vs RON PAUL, THE CONSTITUTION AND US!!!

Imagine that world with Ron Paul the Prez. Our troops home with their families. Daddy's and Mommy's with their kids. Fear slowly dissipates with the shining light of LOVE.

That is what we are doing. That is what we fight for. Peace.

I love you all for giving me new hope. Thanks

Does my burka make my butt look fatwa?

List of agencies that have used Blackwater for training

Blackwater training police in American cities and towns
publication date: Oct 14, 2007
http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2007/10/366850.shtml

The mercenary firm Blackwater USA is well known for the controversy involving its "shoot first, ask no questions" policy in Iraq. It is also known that Louisiana's Department of Homeland Security contracted with Blackwater to provide public law enforcement services in New Orleans following hurricane Katrina. Blackwater is also planning to establish regional training centers in Potrero, California and Mount Carroll, Illinois, billed as Blackwater West and Blackwater North, respectively.

These training centers, in addition to Blackwater's Lodge and Training Center in Moyock, North Carolina -- Blackwater East -- and a possible fourth rumored to be slated for the Pacific Northwest -- Blackwater Northwest -- may result in the establishment of a network of Blackwater-trained police, sheriffs, and other police units around the country. Given Blackwater's dismal record on human rights and brutality, this spells trouble for civilian control of police and paramilitary forces in the United States, from major metropolitan areas to small rural towns.

On October 14, the Washington Post ran a story, which included photographs from Blackwater's Moyock training center. However, what was most intriguing was a photograph of a police and military patch board at Blackwater's headquarters that indicated the police agencies that have sent their officers to Moyock for training.

Blackwater is secretive about its non-federal, as well as its foreign clients, which the Post pointed out includes Jordan, Azerbaijan, and Burkina Faso, but a WMR inspection of the photograph of the police agencies has yielded the following list of agencies that have used Blackwater for training:

1. Iowa Department of Natural Resources

2. Maricopa County, Arizona Sheriff's Department

3. Matthews, North Carolina Police

4. Atlanta Police

5. Chillicothe, Ohio Police

6. Charleston, South Carolina Police

7. Port Chester, NY Police

8. Highland, Indiana Police

9. Unalaska, Alaska Police

10. Metropolitan Washington, DC Police

11. Charlottesville, Virginia Police

12. Metropolitan Washington Airports Authority (Dulles and Reagan National Airports)

13. St. Louis County Police (Missouri)

14. Queen Anne's County, Maryland Police

15. Prince George's County, Maryland Police

16. FBI SWAT Team

17. Gloucester Township, New Jersey Police

18. Tempe, Arizona Police

19. New York Police Department

20. Yonkers, New York Police

21. Fairfax County, Virginia Police

22. Maplewood, New Jersey Police

23. Gastonia, North Carolina Police

24. Tampa Police

25. U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA)

26. DeKalb County, Georgia Police

27. Arlington County, Virginia Police

28. Baltimore Police

29. U.S. Coast Guard

30. Suffolk, Virginia Police

31. Franklin City, Virginia Police

32. Milford, Delaware Police

33. University of Texas Police

34. Norfolk, Virginia Police

35. Ottawa-Carleton, Canada Police

36. San Bernardino County, California Sheriff

37. Plattsburgh, New York Police

38. Chicago Police Department

39. Oregon State Police

40. Los Angeles Police Department

41. Tonawanda, New York Police

42. Special Forces of Colombia

43. Jacksonville, North Carolina Police

44. Harvey Cedars, New Jersey Police

45. Elmira, New York Police

46. Department of Corrections, New Jersey

47. Lexington, Kentucky Police

48. Willimantic, Connecticut Police

49. Georgia Department of Law Enforcement

50. City of Fairfax, Virginia Police

51. Alexandria, Virginia Police Special Operations

52. Illinois State Police

53. Dallas, Texas Police

54. Hamilton, Ohio Police

55. Morganton, North Carolina Police

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A number of the police departments that have been trained by Blackwater have abysmal civil rights and police brutality records, most notably the Chicago Police and Illinois State Police, both cited by former Illinois Governor George Ryan as being guilty of police misconduct in his decision to commute the death sentences of Illinois' death row inmates. It was a decision that likely had much to do with his indictment by the Bush administration on corruption charges -- political misuse of the Department of Justice that has been seen in the indictments and investigations of Alabama former Democratic Governor Don Siegelman and HealthSouth former CEO Richard Scrushy, Qwest's former CEO Joseph Nacchio, Democratic campaign contributor Martha Stewart, Coastal Corporation's former Chairman and Democratic contributor Oscar Wyatt, and Democratic-leaning trial attorneys around the United States, as well as the firings of several U.S. Attorneys who refused to engage in political prosecutions, and a Justice Department workup on North Carolina presidential candidate John Edwards in 2004.

The training and potential political indoctrination of police officers by the extreme right-wing and proto-fascist Blackwater, coupled with the politicization of the Justice Department and U.S. courts, has the potential for the streets of Chicago, Dallas, Los Angeles, Atlanta, New York, and Washington, DC, as well as Chillicothe, Harvey Cedars, and Elmira to turn as bloody as the streets of Baghdad and Fallujah.

Citizens have a distinct opportunity of confronting their local elected city, county, and town officials over Blackwater training of their police officers. Local officials should be pressured to reveal the numbers and identities of officers trained by Blackwater, the subjects covered by the training, the revenues spent, and a public demand should be made to cease and desist in such training.

"The Price Of Freedom Is Eternal Vigilance."
Thomas Jefferson