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Doug Wead: Ron Paul to Obama and Romney: “Jerusalem is the capital of Israel”

News is now leaking out about a private meeting between evangelical leaders and presidential candidate Ron Paul which took place last Wednesday night. The leaders asked Dr. Paul about an Executive Order moving the American Embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem. “The real issue here is not what America wants but what Israel wants. We have no right to chose their capital,” Dr. Paul said, “If they say it is Jerusalem, then it is Jerusalem.” (cont'd)

http://dougwead.wordpress.com/2012/04/14/ron-paul-to-obama-a...

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My two cents…

I'll be honest here and tell you right up front that I don't care about Israel, the Palestinians, or Jerusalem. That isn't in my country and I feel that it isn't any of our business. I hope that part of the world can get that whole mess figured out, but it should not be dealt with by anyone except those parties who live there. That's my honest opinion and I think that should be our official policy. I realize that probably offends a lot of american christians and jews, but I think they need to go and fight this war themselves and not use our military to intervene on behalf of their personal religious beliefs.

Larry in North Carolina
The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men and women to not support Ron Paul!

tough issue

The natives lost their land in north america, the moslems in Palestine. Spoils of war I guess

Ps. Look at all those Eastern Europeans, African, Asians, etc, that lost their land. Hell with imminent domain I would bet many have lost their land or failure to pay property tax for all you share-croppers out there. lol

donvino

As a Christian, I have been

As a Christian, I have been confused with zionism for years. It did not make sense to me that the "jews" were the chosen people and that those who curse Isreal will be cursed etc. How can these so called Jews be the chosen people yet they go against Christ on everything?

The Media outlets are owned buy the Jews, those media outlets are liberal and won't give Christians the time of day. Look at how they treat Ron Paul. Look at all the big banks all run by Jews, JPM etc. Look at how those banks manipulate markets screwing the public.. we are just muppets havn't you heard?

Look at all the movie outlets. again owned by Jews. Look at the garbage they put out. Look at ABC, CBS ETC.. so something just never sat right with this.

I then watched the protocols of zion. Learned how that most who call themselves Jews are not Jews. I watched and listened to what the orthodox Jews had to say about zionism.

All I can say is my eyes were opened. Those who call themselves Jews are not the true Hebrews of the old testament. Please watch this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANLUncv-M_o

Another verse in the book of Revelation tied this all together for me.
Revelation chapter 2 verse 9. (Jesus speaking)
I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they ARE JEWS, AND ARE NOT, but are the synagogue of Satan.

Once I found out that Zionism came out of the kharzarian empire (sorry if that is spelled wrong), it all made sense. Look up the protocols of zion on youtube.

Basically what you have are imposters claiming to be Hebrews. Many of the so called Jews who claim to be Jews are not jews. They have not one drop of Hebrew blood in their veins.

This reminds me of RINOS, democrats/liberals/marxists who came to the Republican party so compromise it.

As I said as a Christian we were told that he who blesses Isreal is blessed and he who cursed Isreal would be cursed. It took me along time of asking God to make this clear to me. The brainwashing we Christians have endured for centuries has taken a toll. Some of you may dissagree and that is fine. You must do your own research like I have. Learn where Zionism came from and what it is about. At some point you will understand the lie like I have. Those who occupy Palestine are not Jews. They are imposters.

To SIERRAHPBT

Whoever you are -

If you think the Jews have taken over America, then you're wrong. We've taken over much more than just America. We're almost at world domination. Just a few more months ;)

I'm joking of course, but I'm glad you think we're so powerful. Seems to me you're engaging in group-think instead of seeing individuals. Ron Paul would not approve...

You wrote: "We're almost at

You wrote: "We're almost at world domination" What do you mean "almost." Rhetorical question of course.

Larry in North Carolina
The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men and women to not support Ron Paul!

There are a 1.5 billion

There are a 1.5 billion Muslims in the world and only 15 million Jews. Imagine the reverse.

We don't go against christ

We don't go against christ about everything. We simply don't care about christ, because we don't believe in it. So whatever we do is not against or for it. Jesus is just completely and absolutely irrelevant and always has been.

That's like saying everything an African Bushman does is against Buddah. The two have nothing to do with each other.

who are we?

like most people jews are ignorant of who they really are. back in the year 650AD the Khazars moved out of Turkey and inhabited the area around the Black and Caspian Sea. They excelled in manufacturing, trade,
commerce, art, culture and all things we consider today as hallmarks of civility. When the crusades started the khazars were being pressured by the Russians to become catholic and by Turkey to become Muslims. The King built a bunch of synagogues and converted his populace to Judaism. Now, humans being what they are tend to forget and soon these folks were intermingled with the other jews. These Khazars are the people who are what we today call zionists. Zionists are NOT JEWS. A Jew would not bulldoze an olive tree orchard or steal someones well in the desert climate. My grandfather was a zionist who worked on the oil wells in Palestine in the 1950's. He was a sick man. Our current VP, Joe Biden said it all, "you don't have to be jewish to be a zionist". How true that is. In fact, it was the zionist faction that aided and supported Hitler, Stalin and Mussolini. It is the zionist clan that is the bankster gang. History is written by the victors, but the victory is not all their's yet.

affirmation: President Paul 2008

Justice For Rachel Corrie Delayed

By Stephen Lendman
http://republicbroadcasting.org/?p=20102

thanks for posting. a christian = who believes in & honors Christ, = the real Maseah, son of a virtuous mother, - these zionists reject & slander both of them. ask ~ visit
http://brothernathanaelfoundation.org/

Thank you, Doug, for update

Some of RP campaign managers would rather keep such information secret not to offend anti-Semitic portion of our base. I remember how much resistance was to give Bruce Fein adviser position.

I would trade Santorum fiscal conservative evangelicals for our anti-Semites. Sure, anti-Semites can stay here too (in a free society they will get a bullet between their ears if they physically assault somebody.)

OK, time for vigorous thumb down by the collective.

Bruce Fein was the likely

Bruce Fein was the likely source of the "rumor" of a Paul/Romney deal. There was probably good reason to oppose him.

someone confirmed before...

...Liberty_First is CNN reporter...Gloria Borger. Google her with Ron Paul together. You can see her interview with Paul. She doesn't seem to care much for him or us.

If Jerusalem is under the

If Jerusalem is under the control of the Israeli government, it shouldn't matter if the UN says it's the capital or not. I've been very opposed to the US-Israel "special relationship" because of the wars and whatnot, but if Ron Paul was president, this wouldn't bother me. If a country attacks us because we've been attacking them, they would be justified. If they attack us because they don't like where we put the stars on our maps, they are not justified. That's the difference.

Jerusalem is not under the

Jerusalem is not under the control of Israel, it is legally a corpus separatum overseen by the U.N.

If the Israelis want to call it their capital I doubt anyone would mind.

Good point...

The 1947 UN Partition Plan DID make it a "corpus separatum" to allow the three monotheistic relgions to share such a sacred place to their respective faiths. But then Israel unlawfully annexed East Jerusalem:

"Israel captured East Jerusalem during the 1967 Six-Day War and subsequently annexed it. Currently, Israel's Basic Law refers to Jerusalem as the country's 'undivided capital'. The international community has rejected the annexation as illegal and treats East Jerusalem as Palestinian territory held by Israel under military occupation. The international community does not recognize Jerusalem as Israel's capital, and the city hosts no foreign embassies."
-cited from Wikipedia

So if our embassy's location and Israel's capital include East Jerusalem, then there are those who would actually mind -- most directly, the Palestinians.

"Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, and you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost." -John Quincy Adams

Maybe...

...it's best to listen to the Orthodox Jews instead of the secular jews (or anyone favoring their Israeli citizenship over their U.S. citizenship, like Rafi here) for a change; the Neturei Karta have it right--Israel will never be legitimate in the eyes of a religious jew:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdR1L_6jAYc&feature=related

And these Orthodox Jews have been meeting for years with and are welcomed by Ahmadinejad to broker peace in the region! See that anywhere it the MSM?? A U.S. embassy in occupied Palestine will further the hate against the U.S. Do we really need any more blowback, folks?

"Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, and you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost." -John Quincy Adams

Israel is becoming a country divided

JEWISH UPRISING PROTEST AGAINST ISRAELI COLONIALISM AND APARTHEID http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRQITqQtkA0&feature=share

and this - candidate states American Jews migrating to Israel part of the problem as well as politicians who cater to AIPAC to get donations. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCDWq30B-3M

RP R3VOLution

Maybe not...

RP2012RP - Calling the Neturei Karta "the Orthodox Jews" is like calling the Neo Nazi Skinheads "the Ron Paul supporters".

Your opinion...

... let's allow the forum readers to decide for themselves if these Orthodox Jews bear any resemblance to "Nazi Skinheads".

http://www.nkusa.org/aboutus/index.cfm
This website has translations into multiple languages as well.
Knowledge is the key to freedom...

"Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, and you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost." -John Quincy Adams

My point is not that Neturei

My point is not that Neturei Karta are like Nazi Skinheads. They obviously are different.

My point was that considering the Neturei Karta to be the "actual real Orthodox Jews while all the others are fake" is like considering Neo Nazi Skinheads to be the "actual real Ron Paul supporters, and all the others are fake."

By resemblance,

I meant through word and deed. I am not one to judge who is more of a Jew than another; this group just follows the Torah, the book I believe, for all Jews. If it's their interpretation of the Torah that you have a problem with, then address that and have an intellectual discussion on this, as opposed to marginalizing a group you disagree with and equating them in some form or fashion to "skin heads."

"Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, and you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost." -John Quincy Adams

I'm not excluding or marginalizing anyone

The NK are Jews just like me. We're the same blood, same family. Of course I disagree with them. I am simply responding to those who are saying that they are the "real Orthodox Jews" where as I am a "Khazarian fake Jew" because they don't like the fact that I live in my homeland.

Skinhead Neo Nazis who support Ron Paul are also real Ron Paul supporters. You agree with them on that issue - that's fine. Doesn't bother me if Nazis and I can agree on something.

I see, it is difficult for you to

admit that Ron Paul and his policies are actually good for Israel. I understand your pain after supporting the doctor and thinking "if we just cut aid to Israel, we can weaken her."

But wait, under free-marker capitalism Jews will be even more prosperous. Is it time for you to switch to socialists?

I agree with you...

...that Ron Paul's "policies" ARE good for Israel. And I don't know anyone on this forum who has advocates weakening Israel--who are you quoting? By keeping "alliances with no one" this strengthens the U.S. Any consequence of that to other nations is of no consequence. And yes, under free market capitalism EVERYONE will prosper, including the Jews. So what's your point on that?

"Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, and you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost." -John Quincy Adams

Wow,

cornered by the event, but emboldened by backing of the collective, you began talking with a forked tongue. Sure, you cannot fool me.

It should be anti-Jews...instead of anti-Semite...

I agree with your comment. I only want to point out the wrong use of the word anti-Semite: Semite refers to all the different ethnic groups of people who speak the Semitic language which is pretty much covers all groups of people now living in the Middle East. Arabs are also Semitic people. That word has been inaccurately used to refer to one religious group and it should be corrected whenever it flares up. I have nothing against the people in the Middle East--the Semites, but I strong disagreement with the actions of the Israeli government and find offensive those living in America that cares more for Israel's well being before the United States. You need not worry about Paul's international views which is the United States first, and this is what the corp., media is stanch against--why they blacked Paul out.

I say: if you can't make it better, don't make it worst!

Fake hyper sensitivity to words

is a hallmark of progressives.

Sure, you are free to lobby dictionary authorities, but you have no say among people who like individual liberty. Semite and anti-Semite HISTORICALLY have different meaning. Therefore, unless you are a fresh Pakistani student, normal Americans understand difference without going to meaning of its components.

For example, anti-Nazi does not mean being against a socialist worker party who has national aspirations.

There is another definition

There is another definition of anti-Semite: An anti-Semite is not someone who hates Jews, but someone Jews hate.

That's some truth right there, phylax.

Big +1

What does it mean if not

What does it mean if not opposition to the German National Socialists?