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Doug Wead: Ron Paul to Obama and Romney: “Jerusalem is the capital of Israel”

News is now leaking out about a private meeting between evangelical leaders and presidential candidate Ron Paul which took place last Wednesday night. The leaders asked Dr. Paul about an Executive Order moving the American Embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem. “The real issue here is not what America wants but what Israel wants. We have no right to chose their capital,” Dr. Paul said, “If they say it is Jerusalem, then it is Jerusalem.” (cont'd)

http://dougwead.wordpress.com/2012/04/14/ron-paul-to-obama-a...



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I say...

...withdraw from the UN and kick them out of New York. I'd be happy to see it dissolved and to stop seeing an 'international community' hovering over the dealings of sovereign nations with each other.

Great article. All of my evangelical relatives will be getting

this ASAP. My headline will read" Billy Graham Consultant: Ron Paul is a Born Again Christian untainted by DC Corruption".

Is this the 3rd Great Awakening?

Christians have forgotten the words of Jesus. If we read the Golden Rule and the Beatitudes with open minds and hearts - we will see our errors.
Christians have become aggressive and forgotten about peacful humility and turning the other cheek; that it is only he who is without sin that should cast the first stone...
any thoughts?

Who's counting?

;) But an Awakening has already begun. There are many truths that are being revealed to the people all over the world. Unfortunately, most of these truths aren't very pleasant. But they are necessary to serve as contrast to help us see a vividness between the world we're fed and the world we want to create.

I'm not religious but I am deeply spiritual. No need for a "middle-man". Speaking of Jesus however, his message of unconditional love is what christians need to live most. Do unto others as you would have done to you. Perhaps people need a more concrete understanding of how to live with love in their hearts. I'm not sure if this is the place to get all metaphysical but if people are looking for a good read, check out The Kybalion.

wikipedia: "The Kybalion was first published in 1908 by the Yogi Publication Society and is now in the public domain, and can be found on the internet."

I'll save you the trouble. Free Audiobook and PDF of it here:

http://www.thoughtaudio.com/titlelist/TA0094-Kybalion/index....

"We are not human beings having a spiritual experience; we are spiritual beings having a human experience"—Pierre Teilhard de Chardin

Why is this not the top headline at Drudge?

He should be all over this. I hope it's not because he's in the tank for Romney.

I just tried submitting this as a news tip...

...on Drudge, but got a 503 service not available message. Anyone else know another way to get this to him?

get that a lot lately too

either the site is busy most of the time

OR

the auto reject is set to words like

Ron Paul

the daily paul

my ISP #

( wouldnt be the first site to do that ha ha )

when is the last time we saw a Ron Paul article on dr udge??

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These church leaders

are late to the party, now they are coming to Ron Paul. I guess this os why the Bible states even the very elect will be decieved. I can't help but feel the end of the world is coming really soon.

Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must. like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it.-Thomas Paine

The R3volution requires action, not observation!!!!

Can God channel new information?

http://www.godchannel.com/index.html

Freedom is my Worship Word!

Yes and East Jerusalem will

Yes and East Jerusalem will be the capital of a future Palestinian state.

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Great article!

Thank you Doug Wead.

Debbie

This is HUGE!

The mainline conservatives may very well now begin to wake up and cut through the propaganda from neo-con radio and TV that Dr. Paul is anti-Israel. I am cheering for Dr. Paul...he's true to his principles, but is now clearly explaining them so the fog is lifting from others' eyes! Keep this going Dr. Paul. :) Sell them on George Washington's foreign policy that they are searching for in their heart of hearts, but are needing some guidance to find once again.

Oye veh,

while this is wholly consistent with the Doc's stance on ISis-Ra-El's 'sovereignty,' and I do not blame him for his honesty and frankness on the matter, this is obviously going to be very contentious to the Palestinians, aka the REAL natives of Palestine, NOT ISis-Ra-El, the REAL "made-up" people.

Frankly, if there is ANY nation that President Paul SHOULD ask the CONgress to declare war against IS Israel and UK for their DIRECT (indirect for UK for supplying covert intel network that is the entire CIA-MI5/MI6-Mossad nexus) attack and sinking of the USS. Liberty.

We have NOT forgotten, nor have the many dying surviving American sailors!

Frankly this has always been the pattern for the govt terrorists: a war of attrition in hopes they'll bureaucratic redtape-to-death and delay just compensation for the whistleblowers and survivors of ANY event in which the HIJACKED US Govt was DIRECTLY culpable for mass murders in.

So F'ng tired of tiny dinky POS land that literally is absolutely worthless by ANY nominal, commercial, financial, or even spiritual metrics for that matter (seriously what F'ng egomaniacal lunatics decided that single geographical location was the most important GPS coordinate to the Mankind as a whole? WhoTF gave them the 'right' to decide that their locale is the center of the world at a time when these bozos had ZERO understanding of how the universe worked, or how truly big and diverse the Earth and various cultures outside of the Sephardic/AshkaNAZI blood were?), that caused nothing but incestuous and murderous grief for so long, that just 'happens' to be the home to ALL two major religions of the world + one sorry ass HENO-theistic (out of many, picked one, aka "mono-theistic")-settled-on-one from the former Vulcan, Lunar, and Saturnine cult+Khazari tradtions, aka Judaism. (Anyone who disputes that without doing any research on the origins of the Bible and similar and competing religions of the day, not to mention series of Council of Nicea to the Companion Bible, to the Khazars, have no basis for dissent, so leave your qualms at the door. Don't have time or the patience to parse it anymore.)

Frankly the only way to resolve this issue is to shove ALL Christians, Jews, and Muslims into Israel, don't let ANYONE out of its borders until they resolve this issue once and for all, like a bunch of children that they all are, and can leave the rest of us faithfuls, agnostics, and atheists the F' alone to go about our live in a peaceful manner.

Pfssst, but whenTF is that ever gonna happen?

What a bunch of petulant pathetic children these zealots are.

Be an AMERICA 1ster, or please, kindly STFU neoCON 'evangelicals.' Don't want to hear your scheisse anymore.

So pathetic that we have a political pigsty in which the fate of another country NOT-Amerika must be EXPLAINED, to a bunch of self-professed evangelicals, who actually delude the Zionist Likudniks actually give a F' what the REAL, GENUINE Christians, like Dr. Paul, think, or want.

One of these days, you'd think the Evangelicals would wake up to how the Zionist Likudnik NWO ISis-Ra-El-is really view them, but sadly, they're all too eager to accelerate Armageddon to make it into a self-fulfilling prophecy.

Doug, love you brother, but you're sounding a bit too excited over this comment for my taste.

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

Fighting and dying over

Fighting and dying over invisible lines drawn on a map where we live divided by fear of nationality, skin colour, gender among other things, doesn't resonate with many people anymore. It's becoming too easy to see through the lies. Rather than Armageddon, it's the Apocalypse—a disclosure of something hidden from the majority of mankind in an era dominated by falsehood and misconception, i.e. the veil to be lifted.

Want to meet god face to face? Go look in a mirror. Quantum/Meta Physics proves an intelligent consciousness literally forms everything, yes including us, into atoms, to molecules, to cells, to organisms, etc. etc. Everything around you is literally a vibrating wave or frequency. Guess what—you can feel this frequency in the form of human emotion, our 6th sense (in animals we call this instinct). THIS is the so called "secret" that people feel the need to create secret societies to keep. It's this same frequency or energy field that is responsible for Free Energy devices. Once you can tap this field mechanically you tap into universal creation in the form of infinite energy output. Biologically this is tapped into through meditation. Using your mind's focus to cause your consciousness to resonate with this field. It's not very hard to understand, practice and live. The harder part is unlearning everything someone else has told you to believe. Your parents did it, your teachers did it, your priests did it, your educational systems did it, and naturally your governments did it. There are so many videos online about these breakthroughs but surprise surprise nothing on the MSM and many of us are running around like multi-colored monkeys fighting over metaphors of a single truth. But many are also not. And that's a good "feeling"...

"We are not human beings having a spiritual experience; we are spiritual beings having a human experience"—Pierre Teilhard de Chardin

Glad somebody said it, and I

Glad somebody said it, and I am not surprised it was you. After watching Romney-Santorum and Gingrich fight over who gets to kiss Israel's ass first & longest, and watching Obama brag about increasing Israel's foreign aid in the speech he made to AIPAC, it shocked me to see our camp doing something similar, though not the same.

Ron's stance is that if Israel wants to fight over their capital being in Jerusalem, that is not our business. He knows we're no better in America, we came over, killed off the Indians, gave them reservations (they don't have huge fences like the Palestinian "reservations", but still) and we've been working on populating them out of existence ever since. As similar as our history is to Israel's, that doesn't make us one and the same. This is America, not Israel. We are Americans, not Israelis. We're not going to pay for them to screw around like we have been all these years, by giving them treasonous foreign aid. That will be over with under a president Paul, and THAT is why they call him Anti-Semitic.

I can't imagine this release will change the minds of the Zionist leaders who are pulling strings all over the place in the US, but it may be enough for the Evangelicals to accept and throw their votes, and hopefully some generous donations our way. We need the support and as always we need it bad.

Stop feeding the propaganda machine. Turn off your TV.

AMEN!

this is why to those who have no clue as to the basis of philosophy in which the Doc draws from, everything to the collectivist statist RINOs as well as to liberals, his platforms SEEM 'schizophrenic,' ironically, cognitive dissonantly not recognizing the fact that it is THEY who are truly schizophrenic and lack ANY truly philosophic guiding principles.

The Doc's answer is WHOLLY consistent as he has ALWAYS been. He is courageous to a fault: he knows that answer may not come off well to the Arab/Muslim R3VOL like those in Michigan, but even to them who 'get' where the Doc is coming from, NONE of this is an issue.

And as usual, he says and does them, because they're THE RIGHT THING to do, and say. Damn the consequences.

Nope, don't think I can ever top that.D

Because all he's saying is that sure, a US Embassy is typically in ANY nation's capital. And NO, America has NO right to decide where ANY Country's capital should be. But IF you do choose it to be location X vs. Y, no matter at what time in history, we'll honor it.

That said, like on the war issue, if Israel is moronic and suicidal enough to start WWIII kicking off a truly global nuclear holocaust in NONE of us will recover from, guaranteeing that anything remotely "Jew" or "Israel" will then be FOREVER hated by generations of radiation infected humanity for the next 5MILLION+ yrs (half-life of nuke particulates, that is IF the human family survive that long beyond Israel instigated WWIII), he's saying 'be my guest,' but as he'd say the same domestically, 'don't expect the rest of us to bail you out, or pay for your mistakes.'

God, I absolutely LOVE that man, like my own grandpa.

I WISH I can be THAT brave, bold, principled, and consistent. SO far, by modern standards, I have hard time imagining anyone NOT born during the Great Depression, and having subsequently lived through EVERY single important human epoch in history, can be as principled or brave. More impressive, through all those epochs, he's always remained true to himself.

I'm not being hyperbolic, he truly is someone who comes along once in a century, if not centuries. I just hope unlike many sages of yore before him, we CAN successfully carry on by being LIVING examples of his and others' philosophies that have inspired him and us as well, striving higher, and let the message and philosophy flourish, instead of perpetuating idolatry or even desktop bust of the Doc, as brilliantly sweet a gesture it may be, and wouldn't mind having it myself personally. As long as it's just ONE expression of appreciation of who he is, what he has done, and what he and WE will do.

Okay, but come on, this IS too cool!!!

Only my beloved R3VOL would be as so inspired to do this:
http://www.amazon.com/Ron-Paul-Head-Bust-Standard/dp/B007R6E84Y

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

I thought that Jerusalem...

was supposed to be divided into four sections as one of the conditions for the land in Palestine to be given to the Jews for a homeland according to the 1948 U.N. agreement. There was to be the Armenian section, the Christian section, the Muslim section, and the Jewish section. Tel Aviv was to be the capital of Israel.

Do the Israelis have a right now to make Jerusalem their undivided capital? What would happen to the Christians, Muslims, and Armenians in Jerusalem if this were to happen?

I seem to remember that Obama groveled before AIPAC promising an undivided Jerusalem as Israel's capital when he was first running for President.

Minnesota Mary

"Do the Israelis have a right..."

Well, if they're their own country, don't they pretty much have a right to do whatever they want to do?
(except make wars on their neighbors, of course.)

Freedom is my Worship Word!

Jerusalem is not part of

Jerusalem is not part of Israel; it is legally a corpus separatum.

Those four sections that you mentioned

are in the old part of Jerusalem, which is very small. Everything outside of the old city is by far the biggest part of Jerusalem, and that is where our embassy and other such places would be located.

The partition of Israel is

The partition of Israel is the business of the United Nations, not the United States. If the U.S. had ever refused to support Israel's agression and usurpation of land with vetoes in the Security Council, Israel would still be the small area intended by the Balfour Declaration in 1917. Jerusalem is no different than the rest of Palestine that was ripped off during the 1967 war - that is to say, it was never given to Israel; it was taken.

I'd be happy if the UN...

...was dissolved, as corrupt and globalist an organization as it is. I would much rather see Israel and her neighbors working things out on their own than having some 'international community' hovering over everything, intervening, and bossing them around. Let them break bread together on their own, fight wars if they choose to, make peace if they choose to. I don't care what role the UN has had in the past; I think it should have never existed to begin with, so I'm not going to say that any sovereign nation should bow to their demands. From Dr. Paul's speeches, I think he would agree that we would be much better off without the UN around.

Israel is the creation of the

Israel is the creation of the United Nations. That creation and the resulting displacements and wars are very good arguments against the international body. We would be better off without the U.N. and we would be better not being the sponsor of a Jewish state in the Middle East.

absolutely correct.

But it's gotten so F'ng politically correct that even a column and staircase WITHIN the Temple had to be divide amongst Armenian Orthodox, Jews, Muslims, and Christians: ie. no joke, within a single staircase, one phase of the step's rise is considered to belong to one religion, where as the vertices are allotted to another.

This is how F'ng insane religious zealotry has become.

Jesus would DISOWN THEM ALL, let alone be satisfied that an actual Church, aka, Cerse, aka, Kirk, were built and murdered for, on behalf of his name.

No true prophet in history WANTED any idolatry of himself or an organized entity dedicated to worshiping him, but not the essence of his philosophy, aka the Gospels.

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

If Israel is a sovereign nation...

...they can choose to put their capital in Jerusalem. Even if they agree later on to terms of sharing the city, what would preclude them from making the sovereign decision to keep their government seat in whatever sector of Jerusalem is under their direct control?

Gotta love downvotes...

...with no explanations. :D

Islamist Appeasement not fulfilled.

you didn't say what they wanted you to say, your suppose to say death to Israel and long live Palestine, or they get their internet defense force and vote down lol. o btw this is apparently an exception to the non intervention foreign policy rule and yes they don't care if we get nuked in the process trying to make a worthless state by fighting Israel.

This is the first I heard of this

Smart move on Israel's part. Having the capital in Jerusalem is safer because of the Dome of the Rock. NO Muslim would ever dare bomb Jerusalem in a big way, like nuke, because that is one of their most sacred, holy places. Insurance for Israel.

Healthnut4freedom

The lip of truth shall be established forever: but a lying tongue is but for a moment...Lying lips are abomination to the LORD: but they that deal truly are His delight. Prov 12:19,22

Do you really think...

that if Israel got total control of Jerusalem as their capital that the Mosque would be left standing for very long?

Minnesota Mary

dismantling the DOME goes on...

"The Aqsa and Dome of the Rock mosques sit above the ... If the Dome goes down Israel will go with it and WW3 will..."

Latest update 00:00 04.02.07

City of David tunnel excavation proceeds without proper permit
from the Israel Antiquities Authority (IAA), as required by law.

In addition, there is no operative plan for developing the site by the Israel Nature and National Parks Protection Authority (INNPPA), which legally administers the area.

Nevertheless, no steps are being taken against the two IAA archaeologists who violated their license; instead, they are being allowed to dig in an area extending another 100 meters, to "explore" the site.

The archaeologists, Professor Gabi Reich and Eli Shukrun, began the dig in the area of the village of Silwan a few months ago, following the discovery of part of a road that may have been Jerusalem's main street in the Second Temple era. The dig is being financed by Elad, an association that, inter alia, works to settle Jews in East Jerusalem.

Late last year, the archaeologists showed senior government officials a plan to continue tunneling under Silwan to the Old City's Dung Gate, some 600 meters away, and perhaps even as far as the wall around the Temple Mount.

The goal, they said, was to expose the entire length of the Roman road, on the assumption that it originally led from the Silwan spring to the mount. Shukrun told Haaretz last week that the project would take about three years.

This is a very sensitive region for a dig. Should it approach the Temple Mount wall, it will certainly elicit angry reactions from the Muslim Waqf (religious trust), which has repeatedly accused Israel of trying to excavate under the holy places on the mount.

Moreover, most of the excavation site is inhabited by Palestinians, and thus far, no effort has been made to get their permission, as required by law, for digging on and under their property.

But on top of all that, it recently emerged that the dig violates the terms of the license that the archaeologists received in January 2006, and has not been approved by the INNPPA.

Dr. Gideon Avni of the IAA discovered this situation when he visited the dig in December. The current excavation, he wrote the archaeologists, "is not included in any way" on their license application. "Therefore, this is an unlicensed excavation."

more of this ILLEGAL action by israel :

http://www.haaretz.com/news/city-of-david-tunnel-excavation-...

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