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STOP NAMING DELEGATE NAMES/SLATES - The Campaign Will Get the Information

We're all excited. We love to post the names of people up for a Ron Paul slate and watch people cringe when we win.

Romney's campaign isn't stupid. There are probably tons of moles on here...since 2007/08. They collect our information, etc. Don't make it any easier for them to railroad us like they did in ND.

Just my two cents.




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The truth will be known soon enough :)

A whole lot of talk going on right now. Let history take it's course as we all actively participate. The next few months will be interesting indeed!

if it wasnt for daily paul

i wouldnt know who to vote for saturday. so it helped me

From the liberty storm, Philadelphia

Dont listen to this guy. At the RP rally in Philadelphia last Sunday, the campaign had a tent set up where they were distributing delegate cards. The organizers of the event mentioned several times for people to look up the delegates, get to know them and spread the word.

Trust me folks, Romney's people know who they are but some fence paul voters or those who might not be savvy with the process might not be as familiar.

member for 2 hours, really

In Louisiana 2008, the McCain and Thompson groups came in on caucus day handing out slates of delegates and alternates that with the heading Reagan Family values. It implied that someone looked up all the delegates and chose the best ones to represent family values.
It did not have the name of the candidates on it, only family values. Another slate listed Christian values, with delegates and alternates in a list. There was no mention of the candidates names anywhere.
I mean Really, who is against Family??? So people who came in uninformed, or if their pastor told them to look for a certain slate, those are the people who they voted for.

Now I was an alternate for Ron Paul, and I am a Marriage Family Therapist. And surprisingly, my name was not listed on either slate.

So we need a Ron Paul slate, but if we learned anything we also need a slate that states, opposed to abortions, gun owners rights, accountability for federal spending, keeping out liberty per the Constitution. And include Paul delegates on this list.

politepaulite

The best Poker players know....

You show nothing...you tell nothing until you are safely home.

You don't count your money (or your delegates) infront of the competitor...it only pisses them off, makes you look like a show off, and will most likely get you jumped when you least expect it.

In Pa...it is like this....
You have the "establishment", you have "us", and you have the uninformed.

"WE" should know who we are voting for already but if we don't...look for familar faces.
"They" know who they are pushing..and when one of "them" show up, they already know who they are voting for too...
So it comes down to the "uniformed". So...we have just as much shot at the "uniformed" as they do. This is when you have to think like the standard Politician. You win votes with smiles, handshakes, friendly faces, a few kind words or compliments, and a well placed "party card" in a voter's hand.

That is EXACTLY what the "establishment" does...and that is why we NEED someone to be at EACH polling place. (preferably your own so you will be familar to your neighbors...or the one you grew up in)

No Ron Paul gear...No Ron Paul "philosophy"...because this is not the time. Those who are going to vote Dr. Paul will do so without you...and those who won't don't need to pass our delegates because they associate them with Dr. Paul.

Our delegates in PA are NOT Ron Paul delegates...they are merely concerned citizens from YOUR district that wish to represent the Republican Party's platform of Conservatism. (now who they choose to vote for at the convention....well...that is to talk about AFTER the convention ;p)

Do you still not realize the

Do you still not realize the very obvious REALITY that most of Ron Paul's voters are NOT rabid voters who do tons of resaerch online to find out the delegates they should vote or before they head to the voting place? Saying WE should know just shows that you don't understand. WE is a VERY small percentage of the 1.2 million votes Ron Paul has gotten thus far. (probably less than 10%) If you are counting on WE, then Ron Paul is going to lose BADLY the rest of the way.

Or are you suggesting that the official campaign, and Ron himself are bad poker players and don't know your rules of poker?

Actually....

I think its YOU that doesn't understand.
I worked my local polling place..and our delegates did rather well there considering the low turn out there was.
Wanna know why....because I STOOD there handing out our delegate cards right there at the polls.

In PA the "establishment" hands out "party endorsed" cards...and so the way to counter that was to hand out cards as well. And so THAT was ONE of the ways to get the word out.

Physically being at the polls handing out our cards actually gave us a fighting chance. Posting the names too early would have given the "endorsed" crew too much time to work against us.

But you're entitled to your opinion. And for the record..being snarky won't get you very far.

Ask Dr. Paul, Doug Wead, or

Ask Dr. Paul, Doug Wead, or Jesse Benton, how many delegates we've won, and where and they will tell you point blank its a secret. Geez people, get a clue. You can't go advertising our victories or potential victories without screwing up the whole thing. Doug Wead was asked last week specifically how many delegates Dr. Paul had actually won and he said, and I quote, that is "top secret." So, in other words we need to keep it quiet!!!

Blessings )o(

Shout it from the rooftops.

The slates are published at the caucuses, etc. The other side(s) know(s) exactly who our people are.

The problem is that NOT ALL OUR OWN PEOPLE know who our people are, leading to diluted voting and opportunities for opponents to publish their own slates faked up to look like ours and con us out of our votes.

So the problem is not keeping the opponents from knowing who our people are, but getting the word out to our own people.

Publishing the slate here (and discussing it if appropriate - like if someone spots a known mole on it) is, IMHO, one of the most effective things we can do to spread the word to our own people.

Unless THE CAMPAIGN asks to keep this quiet, I say spread the word.

(If we have a few that were NOT on the published slates but got elected anyhow, I CAN see just publishing the number rather than the names, to keep them from having issues with the credentials committee. But the cat's out of the bag for the ones on the slates.)

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Similarly, Romney's people already know about their "Paul has all these delegates" problem. Finding out from us what our estimate is doesn't help them appreciably. But spreading the news and realistic numbers helps US. It keeps our people inspired, rather than throwing in the towel. It also helps break the MSM blackout on our success, letting voters know that a Romney nomination is NOT a done deal and that voting for Paul will do some good.
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IMHO we should be broadcasting our estimates far and wide, to get some momentum going in the states where the general-population polling has not yet occurred. Especially Texas and California.

These are not things that need to be kept secret. They're things that need to be shouted from rooftops.

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"Obama’s Economists: ‘Stimulus’ Has Cost $278,000 per Job."

That means: For each job "created or saved" about five were destroyed.

Lists

All of these neo-ists(neoconservatives and neoliberals) who support keeping lists. How about we keep a list of them by name. The establishment delegates ect.

What??????

Aren't we all about Freedom of Speech? Geez, if we're winning delegates, shouldn't we be out there shouting it from the rooftops?

What's the opposition going to do with names? Send hit men?

Freedom is my Worship Word!

You need to pay attention to

You need to pay attention to the concerted effort to undermine Ron Paul... for the past 30 years, richgrise!

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rewrite rules to arbitrarily vote them out

making their actions pointless.

"You underestimate the character of man." | "So be off now, and set about it." | Up for a game?

Please remove this thread from front page.

Hiding a slate is the last thing you want to do. You want everyone to have the slate. At the conventions you don't have people saying don't vote for this delegate or that delegate. You have campaigns saying vote for their slate and you want that slate to be available to every single person at the convention.

We even need volunteers to pass out the slate. The printed slate needs to be available to all delegates. A good trick is to also have many styles of printed slates i.e. Conservitive Unity slate, Pro Gun slate, Pro life slate... but just make sure those printed slates have the same Ron Paul delegates listed.

I think we need to take just

I think we need to take just a moment to express our concern for our presidents illness. I can't image what it must be like to suffer from Narcissistic Personality Disorder. Maybe if he lost his re-election bid in Nov. some of the symptoms would subside.

Bob Marshall

pass resolution for texas debate

At the convention, we should try to pass a resolution to get a Texas GOP debate going. Just my two cents.

Huh? You can't pass a

Huh? You can't pass a resolution to force a debate. It is simple..all candidates agreed long ago that there would be no more debates. And it is EXTREMELY rare to have a debate in May. So Rom,ney is not about to have one. And no...you can't pass a resolution to force him to do so.

Hurting ourselves in PA...

In PA we vote for delegates in the primary. There is no caucus. This means, that if I knew now, I would still have less than a week to get out the information to as many people as possible. While this might be a good idea for caucus states I think it will hurt us in primary states. Just my 2 cents.

NOTE: I am not advocating violence in any way. The content of the post is for intellectual, theoretical, and philosophical discussion. FEDS, please don't come to my house.

What it boils down to in Pa is....

Each one of US going to our own polling place and making personal contact with the VOTERS. Smile at them, speak to them, and hand them our "party card" the same way the "establishment" does it.

This is when we have to get out from behind the computer, take a day off from work, and from 8 - 8 put on the charm.

This is not the time to debate Dr. Paul's philosophy...not time to try to educate...This is the time to shake hands, kiss babies, nod and smile.

This is when being the friendliest, more trustworthy face is going to swing the vote.

If you don't know who our delegates are in your district by now...then just make sure you turn up to vote and hope that someone is at your polling place that can give you a card. =(

Look up the candidates on Facebook.

If they have a picture of Ron Paul some where, they probably are for Ron Paul, so vote for them. Call the Ron Paul campaign to find out who is for Ron Paul.

It's not enough to know who's for Ron.

It's not enough to know who's for Ron.

If we have more candidates than slots we have to pick a subset that is the number of slots and ALL vote for them.

If we each pick a random set of candidates from among the Ron Paul supporters we spread our votes around among the candidates and dilute them while our opposition focuses their votes on on THEIR selected slate. Then their slate members get more votes each than our crowd. THEY win even when WE have an overwhelming majority.

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"Obama’s Economists: ‘Stimulus’ Has Cost $278,000 per Job."

That means: For each job "created or saved" about five were destroyed.

It would encourage voters in PA to know how well RP is doing

I think it's a mistake to be so cagey about Ron Paul's victories. The voters in primary states would be far more likely to support him if they knew how well he's really doing.

Secret Delegates

The Ron Paul slates with the names of the delegate nominees will be circulated to pretty much everyone on the floor at state conventions. The Romney camp has their own slates which will be available for everyone to see, as well. What do we gain from withholding the names of nominees and potential nominees between now and our respective state conventions? Not trying to be contrary here, I'm just looking for the big picture on it.

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This is a great point.

We DO NOT WANT TO KEEP OUR SLATE SECRET!..... We want everyone at the convention to have our printed slate on their seat, in their delegate bag, passed to them at the entrance to the convention and available at all liberty booths.

We should make sure the print style is unique and secret so that the unethical and childish Romney campaign doesn't copy our printed slate style. That is the only secret we should have.

This thread should not be at the top of the page. If we try to make our slate secret then we end up confusing sympathetic supporters who would have voted for the slate if it was available.

I'm noticing the...

..backlash in posting specifics concerning our delegates. I know that it is very exciting to win the majority but it is imperative that winners should be "humble" instead of being outright celebratory. While we evidently have won a bunch of caucuses people from other campaigns AND the "powers that be" are prowling all over the place and we now know through their carefully planned onslaught on RP supporters in the forthcoming caucuses to the extent that they bend and twist all the rules to thwart the proceedings. Please refrain from giving too much info.

Rather post the names of Rmoney ones as likely RP ;)

Rather post the names of Rmoney ones as RP support - if GOP cancels them - there is a good laugh about their Stasi and Anti-Democracy measures - on our side ;)

When Neocons & Facism go to sleep, they look under the bed for Ron Paul and "WE THE PEOPLE"!

"Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." M.Mead

Calling all MODS

If anyone can stay on top of this, you can. Please delete posts or threads divulging sensitive information. Thanks.

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Good Suggestion to the MODS

I agree, Velveeta, it is a good idea to delete sensitive information.

In one case, I think we should provide the RP delegate names: for those states who do not caucus. On Tuesday we have the PA primary; we elect our delegates just like we vote for the candidate. No caucus, discussion, etc. So in order to find out who to vote for, it took a couple of hours for me to locate the information. Shouldn't we provide the delegate names in this case, so RP voters know who to vote for when they enter the booth?

Yes...but...

The way to do this is to actually BE at your polling place and greet YOUR NEIGHBORS and hand them a "party card" of our delegates.

We do not want to give the "establishment" any ammunition...

Go, be personable, let your neighbors see you..relate to you as a person from THEIR home that is concerned about the same things they are. No Dr. Paul gear...no Dr. Paul "discussions"....just simply one neighbor to another..looking out for each other.

Also...for the record...they are NOT Ron Paul Delegates....they are merely concerned citizens of that district wishing to represent the Republican Party's platform of Conservatism. (who we support as a Candidate has no bearing until we get to Florida ;p)

Keep this BUMPED!

The campaign has said OVER and OVER - Do NOT post Delegate/Alternate names, slates - ANYTHING about it!

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