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Petition Asks FBI to Investigate Mitt Romney and Bain Capital

http://www.petitionbuzz.com/petitions/mormonreform

This petition is asking for an FBI Investigation into Romney and Bain's involvement with Mormon Church financial losses.

"WHEREAS: The Assets of Beneficial Life, another Church Asset, also appears to have been plundered through the use of subprime mortages and derivatives that may involve Ensign Peak Advisors, Mitt Romney, Bain Capital and Leaders of the Mormon Church.

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Romney is such a joke now, bribing/selling away seat access...

I really, really wonder if Romney even knows how much of a crook he appears to be nowadays? I passed the petition onward. This is truly sensational stuff piling up, he is downright foolish because its clear as day laws were broken.

Mitt Romney caught on record selling seats for access, bribing officials to attend a "pre-inauguration" festival
http://www.eutimes.net/2012/04/romney-is-already-selling-sea...

Romney caught red handed committing vote fraud: Penalty is 10 years in prison(or 2 for him), over $50,000 total monetary damages
http://www.phibetaiota.net/2012/04/eagle-mitt-romney-almost-...

Romney video tapes himself on camera: Giving away hundreds of sandwiches in exchange for votes in State where its a felony
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdy1pVgxMb0

Romney tied to extortion-embezzlement scheme: How many are investigating?
http://tdarkcabal.blogspot.com/2012/04/april-7-2012-white-ha...

This is truly beyond pathetic, & beyond corrupt! I'm sorry, I think he's a decent man but the level of crimes this guy has committed recently is beyond belief & beyond pathetic. He basically indicted himself on camera and I firmly believe Romney's going to be indicted by a Grand Jury & Prosecutor long before he reaches the nationals..

I could understand if he just made a few mistakes, but this is just ludicrous. Romney is apparently a serial crook who has broken the law so often, it makes people question who's behind this guy. I really see why Santorum is afraid of the guy's handlers getting control, and how bad it would be because Romney endorses Agenda 21 without a doubt.

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Here is a...

...huge stack of more criminality.

Lets make this thread the place to store all the crimes and misdeeds of the willard mintster.

http://cdn2.dailycaller.com/2012/01/McCain-2008-Oppo-File-on...

And more:

http://americanfreedomwatchradio.com/?page_id=832

And more from a previous post here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_pgfWK3sxw

Keep adding the reports here people.

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Likely

There's definitely something rotten in Denmark.

Wish they would check out...

...the Falcone case. If it's true it would INSTANTLY end his campaign and career and land him in jail along with alot of other big names you would recognize.

If my need to be RIGHT is greater than my desire for TRUTH, then I will not recognize it when it arrives ~ Libertybelle

Yes Sir!

That's the one...It boggles my mind the level of corruption that the MSM no longer outs to the public. The MSM has gone from the watch dog of government to the lap dog of government. This story makes the Obama birther issue small potaotes by comparison.

Thanks for adding the link, I was hoping someone like you Truthbearer, would add it to my post. I like to throw out bait and see if piques someone's interest enough to do some research. (But, I get the feeling you already knew about this case!)

If my need to be RIGHT is greater than my desire for TRUTH, then I will not recognize it when it arrives ~ Libertybelle

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Yes Mam!

The circle of intrigue and corruption gets larger every day.

Ya gotta laugh sometimes when they keep at each others throats in the typical Hagalian way, while at the same time not having anything bad to say about Ron Paul and his sterling record.

http://www.crossroad.to/articles2/05/dialectic.htm

Same old carp.

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ahhh yes...I am familiar with

ahhh yes...I am familiar with Georg Hegel and frequetly refer to him when explaining how our two party system is just the apperance of opposites with the same ultimate goal. Good you brought him up I hope others see this too!

If my need to be RIGHT is greater than my desire for TRUTH, then I will not recognize it when it arrives ~ Libertybelle

They need to investigate his ponzi scheming company

His son owns it and Romney is on the board and a major share holder. They ripped off lots of people and Papa had to bail him out and pay back people.

Has the Church been compromised?

I had considered baptism recently but didn't feel right. Did I know something?

Thanx,

Jason

You can't get clean in a dirty bathtub.

No

But that does not mean that some in the church may have been deceived or have been compromised in regards to this case. Overall I believe the church is true and the gospel is true, but the church, as in all churches, is still made up of mortal fallible men subject as all men are to the temptations of the devil. They are not immune and some will fall if they are not careful.
God allows man free will to see whether we will obey him or not. Even those closest to Him. Take Judas for example.
Some are humble and penitent and trying their best to seek God, others are not. They will eventually have to answer for their deeds here on earth, whether in this life time or the next. The work of God cannot be stopped though corrupt men may try. If there is wrong doing in this case, let justice be done.

"The works, and the designs, and the purposes of God cannot be frustrated, neither can they come to naught.

2 For God doth not walk in crooked paths, neither doth he turn to the right hand nor to the left, neither doth he vary from that which he hath said, therefore his paths are straight, and his course is one eternal round.

3 Remember, remember that it is not the work of God that is frustrated, but the work of men;

4 For although a man may have many revelations, and have power to do many mighty works, yet if he boasts in his own strength, and sets at naught the counsels of God, and follows after the dictates of his own will and carnal desires, he must fall and incur the vengeance of a just God upon him."
DC 3:1-4

It really has nothing to do with the Church, so leave that out..

Its nothing about the Church per-se, or anything of that about religion.

It is a covenant that is made in the Doctrine, that covenant requires Romney to save the souls of the Zeromites, Jerobites, Ishmaelites etc.

He's fulfilling his role by committing crimes (I know, weird as it sounds its all true) that they may find their path back to God.

He may well go to jail or whatever it is again, but he has a clear conscience because what he does out there...as governor (or an office held) is teaching the Jacobites and so forth, NOT to steal, cheat, lie, destroy people's lives. And to repent and seek doctrine. For their soul and that of their people. The Church wishes him well but does not cart-blanch support this. Yes true, he may not save them all some may go to jail and many things might occur but in the end....he will have done what doctrine commands.

I'm sorry no.

None of that is true. That was a bunch of made up gibberish you just posted there. Your posts are usually pretty good simplesam and I enjoy reading them, but Im not quite sure what you were getting at here. No offense but are you feeling well?

There's no such thing as "zeromites" or "jerobites". Perhaps you meant Zoramites and Jacobites, which shows you may not know what you're talking about, but even then what do they have to do with anything, especially this thread? There's no such covenant requiring Romney or anyone to save them let alone "by committing crimes that they may find their path back to God"?? I mean honestly, Romney may be corrupt and hollow as all get out and should be prosecuted if the evidence supports it, but I don't understand why you're making stuff up about his religion?

Here's what it says.....

If you didn't know this, good, learn something new everyday.
"We are held responsible for presenting the Gospel of Christ to all the nations of the earth, to warn the Gentiles, to prepare for the return of the lost ten tribes of Israel, and for carrying the Gospel to the whole tribes of Israel."
http://www.gospeldoctrine.com/DoctrineandCovenants/DC%20138.htm

Different areas people interpret it differently, but it says...
"And it came to pass, you will be held responsible for the fruits of those that may be saved; by spreading my gospel."
Nephi:“It is by grace that we are saved, after all we can do. What is is the phrase ‘after all we can do’?“‘After all we can do’ includes living His commandments.“‘After all we can do’ includes loving our fellowmen & praying for those who regard us as their adversary.
http://seminary.lds.org/manuals/Book-of-Mormon-seminary-teac...
http://www.pleaseconvinceme.com/index/Common_Claims_and_Conc...

For outsiders: Does that mean Mormons are wrong, fools, etc? No.
It means we are highly unusual people, we are held accountable for *all* their works, meaning the works even of the Bankers aka Zoramites. It's written in our record. Am I wrong for stealing, sinning or all those things - as Romney would be? You bet-I'm to blame. But I have repented, & because of the gospel, I'm not tempted anymore. I never touch bad films, I do not fall prey to XXX filth like most churches do; I have no desire for endless wealth, wrong thoughts, alcohol, or anything else. I hardly ever think of them anymore - & I certainly did them all.

Mormons are abnormal- we are tasked to save souls of Jerusalem - repent of all sins, & bring others too to Holy Spirit. Only through spirit, will they stop sin (or hardly ever sin anymore) - Romney is what he is, because that is our mission. He may not be president, yet Romney will play a role - why? Because we "Mormons" are who prepare a world for the 2nd coming of the Savior - due to this you may call us "evil"- Goldman Sachs are converting as well. I assure you, we aren't evil - we are *100% unique* - perhaps only true Church. We forgive the worst(yet repent, to our best), so that all can be offered a chance to be saved. Through baptism.

Ok, you're still making stuff up and mashing together

partial truths and half quotes to make erroneous conclusions. Almost seems like a bot pulling words and phrases from random websites. What's the deal?

gospeldoctrine.com is not an official website of the church,
and pleaseconvinceme.com is a traditional christian site not even affiliated with mormonism nor prone to be accurate on mormon doctrine.

Your first quote is a partial quote of a former president of the church but has little to do with the discussion at hand.

Yes, Mormons, are responsible for spreading the Gospel to all the world, just as all Christians are, but there is no "covenant in doctrine" or anything like that saying Romney or anyone in the church must specifically go after and save the zoramites and jacobites or ishmaelites, much less through criminal means.

Also zoramites ≠ bankers. I don't know where you got that idea.

Your next quote, about being "held responsible for the fruits of those that may be saved; by spreading my gospel", is not found anywhere but between your quotation marks leading me to believe you made it up. It's definitely not scripture.

Your third quote, that you attribute to Nephi is a partial quote of 2nd Nephi 25:23 which you have poorly bundled with unscriptural commentary and teaching helps from the seminary website making it seem like Nephi said those things. Which he didn't, but once again the quote and additions are irrelevant to anything being discussed.

I'm happy for you that you were able to repent and overcome your sins and short comings, may we all. Mormons do believe all can be saved from their sin through Jesus, but not in their sin. They must repent of their sin first. If there are Goldman Sachs guys with a shred of their soul left to repent that's great. Good for them, I hope they do. Do I believe Romney is effecting that change in their heart? Certainly not something I would lend high probability to.

I'm sorry but your posts seem like rambling distortions of half truths and I would ask that you please refrain from doing so.

You are equating things that aren't true.

You are forgetting what it says in the book of Nephi, about the withered Olive Tree as well as the known plight of the withered fruit.

I know what the exact quotes are, since we just had a lesson about the very subject. It is very important to memorize those quotes, as the one above isn't it but its closer to what the quote says.

I'm simply saying you are spreading an incorrect position - it *is* written as a doctrine, meaning a commandment that you will be held accountable for those you do not save. That means you should save them, spread the gospel no matter what- otherwise, you are responsible for them NOT coming to know the lord's fruit.

Alma 5: 21 'I say unto you, ye will know at that day that ye cannot be 'saved; for there can be no man be saved except his garments are washed white; yea, his garments must be purified until they are cleansed from all stain, through the blood of him of whom it has spoken by our fathers, who should come to redeem his people from their sins.'
Alma 5: 22 'And now I ask of you, my brethren how will any of you feel if he shall stand before the bar of God, having your garments stained with 'blood, and all manner of filthiness? Behold, what will these things testify against you?'

He's talking about the sins of the world; **those sins** you are HELD accountable for attached to those you could have saved. That is what he's referring to. Romney & a few of the leaders may have done things outside of doctrine, for which they're judged; but they are doing certain sins with the goal in mind of actually saving Lord's people. As I understood it, that was explained in our class with both book of Alma, Nephi & Jacob- we carry responsibility.

So in a different context; this could be an excuse (spiritually) for Romney doing unusual things to bring atonement to these Bankers. I don't mean that Romney is a great man, he's flawed. But - if you are true to yourself or know doctrine - you can't disagree.

What you say?

Be more specific.

Try this

http://www.pleaseconvinceme.com/index/Common_Claims_and_Conc...

We are the most unusual faith out there. By far.
We are commanded to save the Zoramites & Jaredites.

That includes the folks at Goldman Sachs. Romney is converting them, many of them to the gospel. There is also enormous corruption at the major bank you speak of - so he joined with that bunch, & really committed some crimes to try to show them a better way - buy people through sandwiches. What he did is very odd you're right, his punishment is soon. But he did it with the intent of saving another.

ME 4!!!!!

Rmoney the truth is never HIDDEN!

Yeehaw!

Money for Ron Paul and a kick in the boot for Romney!

Pushed straight up.

To the top.

Thanks Again for the Bump

People need to see how corrupt Romney really is.

I just signed and now..........

And now I am going to donate to the Money Bomb again!

" In Thee O Lord do I put my trust " ~ Psalm 31:1~

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