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Subs for Votes Scandal: Romney is TOASTED!

"Subgate" is here, right on tape. Romney is toasted by his own actions. He is now being investigated by the Wisconsin DA, right in the middle of his campaign. Spread this all over the Internet. It's a huge scandal. He should have stayed with Bain and out of the race.

The man doesn't belong in politics. Use this thread to come up with great ideas to spread this everywhere. Talk radio, TV, print: whatever it takes.

Let's bring this up. It is illegal for candidates to buy votes. This is a felony. Anyone who covers for him is an accomplice in the felony. You would never see Dr. Paul doing this.

Read More: http://youthrevolutionarycouncil.org/?p=1264

and also: http://democurmudgeon.blogspot.com/2012/04/subs-for-votes-po...

and in SC, reports are votes for ham sandwiches:


Send this link to the Waukesha DA, and let him know we are watching--and taking action!! Let's let the FEC know we know.

Note: Romney is DIRECTLY associated with people involved in child abuse, notably Mel Sembler, his main money bundler:


Sembler said: "Romney's finance team is gearing up a series of fundraisers focused on the general election. "We're shifting gears right now," said St. Petersburg developer Mel Sembler. "Everybody understands Romney is our nominee. It's over."

C'mon, people. Let's fight back. Let's make sure its OVER for them.

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The video clearly shows Paul

The video clearly shows Paul Ryan participating in the handing out of Subs during this Romney campaign event.

Might Paul Ryan have some trouble headed his way due to this as well?

Here's part of the law that one of the websites linked above quoted:

any person who offers, gives, lends or promises to give or lend, or endeavors to procure, anything of value

Might be a good idea for this video to be backed up by anyone who is inclined to do so: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4k4LlVL7eE


Great Paul minds...

Great Paul minds think alike. I had my husband back up some videos from YouTube showing the whole Cousins Subs video because others I've watched aren't there anymore.

The two most important days in your life are the day you are born...and the day you find out why. -Mark Twain

Paul Ryan is the one we need to take down, Romney is attached...

...at his hip.

It is like dominos, one falls, then they each go down one at a time.

Paul Ryan knew better, he is from there, and he was so giddy stroking Romney that day that he lost his bearings and traded subs for votes actually taking the lead role in the multiple felony counts...

...500 subs at a $5,000 fine per felony count = $2.5 million.

Ryan and Romney should each be fined and convicted on each and every one of these felonies; starting with Paul Ryan.


They knew...

I saw a report on MSNBC that this really will be a big problem for Romney because all campaigns were told in advance that it is a felony to give away free stuff on election day there. Couple that with Paul Ryan being a representative from Wisconsin, they can't claim ignorance.

My bet is they'll say it wasn't a bribe, but Wisconsin's law defines what a bribe is, and it's anything that costs over $1.

I say we help the Democrats out on this one.

The two most important days in your life are the day you are born...and the day you find out why. -Mark Twain

Politics makes strange bed-fellows

I now actually agree with Pelosi (only with her view of Romney: Bring it on!) If they try to hand us Romney, we use the same information to prevent him from getting the nomination, if possible. ((BTW, loved that tagline, made me smile)

"Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the office of a thoroughly nasty business concern." ~~C.S. Lewis
Love won! Deliverance from Tyranny is on the way! Col. 2:13-15

A bump

To keep this in the news.

"Its easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled."
Mark Twain

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We should all be posting that

We should all be posting that first article URL to Drudge suggestion box. Here's the law, and here's the evidence. Now where's the arrest?


By claiming there is no conspiracy, you prove to those who believe in the conspiracy that you are part of the conspiracy.


Has anyone sent this to Ben Swann? I'm not sure if it's the type of thing he reports on since it's not fraud against Ron Paul, but he might be interested.

Also, matlarson10 has a good video up about this as well at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBb5j_gu448



When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign: that the dunces are all in confederacy against him. ~J. Swift

Betty Liberty

LOL!!!Thank You!!

In this country

the monied insiders never pay.
The poor regular folk are put away.

Bastille Day is coming to the US.

I find it hard to believe

that you didn't go for the triple-rhyme with "USA" instead of "US", or break the line up and add some syllables for a quadruple:

The monied insiders never pay.
The poor regular folk are put away.
Look out for the next Bastille Day.
Coming soon to the USA.

The way they campaign is the

The way they campaign is the way they will govern

Food stamps

Paul Ryan and Mitt Romney both receive government salaries.

Senator Peter Schiff 2016

What was he even thinking.....



"Romney is TOASTED!" would have been a better pun...but I digress. "Subgate" has been the funniest I've seen, lol...

Let's be realistic, people. This is in fact a "clear" violation of the law. But this won't derail his campaign. Many of the Democratic camp are also blowing the whistle on this...despite the fact that Obama gave away boxed lunches in '08 or an Al Gore supporter's previous "Smokes for Votes" fraud. Neither of which derailed either of those campaigns.

Is this really the table we should be betting our chips on?

Romney has money. He'll most likely admit guilt, probably be fined, reference that he "didn't know", and all will be forgiven on both sides. He'll continue on his way, with little or no repercussions. Frankly, "Smokes for Votes" was much more sinister, considering they took advantage of homeless people or people who weren't even aware why they were being given cigarettes, or if they did, didn't even care.

A free sandwich is a free sandwich. It doesn't mean a guaranteed vote. If it's for free, people will take it.

A law was broken, yes. But nothing a few Goldman Sachs dollars can't fix...sadly...

Better to starve free than be a fat slave.

Your quips and additions are added

Thanks. No reason to let go of this. Let's spread far and wide. Dr. Paul is as straight as an arrow. Everyone should know it.

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You are probably right...

Money will fix it.

But there is a difference between this and what happened with Obama and others. Namely, the actual candidate himself was directly doing it and on video.

Generally, this is handled via underlings that can be hung out to dry, given a slap on the wrist and a little money for their trouble. But in this case, he put himself in the position of being directly responsible.

If by some chance this does stick, that leaves Ron Paul and Newt in the race... We can only hope...

The Philosophy Of Liberty -

Yah we can see how much damage it did to the Obama campaign

Gonna have to try harder than this. Selling access at $50,000 a pop seems more threatening than breaking a state law that forbids giving away "anything of value" on election day. Seems like this is a law itching to have its constitutionality tested.

Take back the GOP and Restore America Now.

Can't get to it from the office....

....but it looks like the sort of 'wink, wink, nudge, nudge' stuff that both major parties have a great knack for brushing under the table.

Nothing that a few more carefully placed Goldman Sachs donations can't nip in the bud....

This deep-sixes Romney's whole Campaign...

What do you even mean "its just what all the parties do" in the first place? Giving away a few seats for a speaking engagement is NOTHING compared to this level of fraud.

This guy just turned around and committed election fraud by selling thousands & thousands of votes for Subway sandwiches. He did it on tape, so everyone arrogantly saw it! Even families!

Mitt Romney flat broke the law. He is an absolute idiot for doing this in front of the D.A. Also, this is a CONSTITUTIONAL lawyer, so Goldman Sachs won't help Romney much given the proof they got on him.

And in the second place, Romney even did worse than this: He turned around and started selling seats & access to his official Presidential Inauguration retreat!!

Dead serious. Does this guy think America is plain stupid? Millions of dollars in illegal bribes, and he's just selling them away!! You can bet that in this trial, Romney is going to get indicted on record.

He could try brushing it off but this ridiculous scandal is about to flood the media too, just what is Romney even thinking!?

They're investigating him on selling his "Presidential" seat access, bribes to Ed Falcone and now the lynch pin: SUBWAYS for VOTES!

Does he just automatically think Americans are as corrupt as him!?!
And what is this about the convention? After being indicted? Does he think he automatically bought Ron Paul for the Vice President spot? Does he just think he's going to buy the whole process or something? I've never seen such blatant corruption. If Romney thinks this is how he's going to "save" the chosen ones, he has flipped his lid because millions of people are just disgusted.




Fogetta bout it

you know it's a mafia. The question might be: What are you going to do about the destruction of liberty and freedom?

Enjoy life and all wonders within. Wars on Drugs before declaration. Poor but freedom was near. Comedies of the man who used to toss joints to the crowd like it was legal. Let's play Paperball for Ron Paul: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydp2qMyVkbo

Can we make a commercial out

Can we make a commercial out of this? That would be about the hardest hitting thing you could do and the news would end up reporting it.

To climb the mountain, you must believe you can.

The White Hats are after him

The White Hats are after him too.....I don't know why he just doesn't bow out.....they are ALL criminals except the DOC!

This is a clear violation of

This is a clear violation of the law. No other way to put it.

Looks legit. That's a clear violation.

What effect if any it will have on Romney is questionable, but as far as guilt this is pretty cut and dry.

What is the penalty for this?