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Could this be the smoking gun against Romney?

He basically harassed a young mother, telling her (allegedly) that she needed to give up her son or else she'd be excommunicated from the Mormon church and go to hell.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2085760/How-Mitt-Rom...

How come this story hasn't been covered more? Some of us should do some investigatin' (i. e., interview the lady, try and find evidence that everything happened the way she said it happened, etc.)

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Lana Lee, You Could Correct This

...by asking the MODS to remove this thread. Yes, your post was interesting in the way that some "National Enguirer" headlines grab your attention in the grocery store line.

Consider that you got eleven votes and yet the posts clearly indicate that your thread is not only divisive, it is disrespectful of all the Mormons who are working hard for Ron Paul and who have pointed out the many reasons they are not for Romney and are for Ron Paul.

Ron Paul does not attack anyone based on their religion or religious practices. Ron Paul is the champion of the Bill of Rights. This is the second anti-Mormon thread today. I am sure you are a loyal Ron Paul supporter; however, it is counter-productive to disenfranchise a whole group of voters and supporters by attacking their religion. What their counselors do inside their temples is not our concern.

I have read your other posts to vet you. You are a good person who IMO made a bad call with this post. We on the DP are, for the most part, self-regulated. I hope that you will consider asking the MODs to take this down. Once again, this is about unity and liberty. Did you not hear Ron Paul say that just because someone has the RIGHT to do or say something, live a certain lifestyle...does not mean you have to endorse it. Ron Paul would never stoop to this. He would not approve your post. Please do the right thing.

fonta

I reject the use of this article and this woman

Reading it, I felt like it was nothing more than yet another attack on my faith. I don't want to see this movement resort to such underhanded tactics as attacking religions just for conveniences' sake. It is unjust.

"Moderation in temper is always a virtue; but moderation in principle is always a vice." -- Thomas Paine

I am not of the Morman faith, but stand with you that it is

inappropriate material to attack Romney on! This information addresses a religious issue, NOT a political one!

The Winds of Change!

Leave

religion out of it. That can have seriously bad consequences. Leave it alone.

Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.

John Adams

No!!!!!!!!!!!!

This article is based on a basic misunderstanding of the LDS religion and the role of lay ministers in counseling other members.
But forgetting for the moment any shortcomings that Brother Romney may have displayed as a counselor in this case, I think that it is political dynamite. Especially at this stage of the election process, promoting this episode could have "unintended consequences".
Many social conservatives who have been generally anti-Romney might actually identify with him in this case. Many evangelicals have their own counseling programs for unwed mothers that have come under sharp criticism for pressuring women NOT to have abortions and put their baby up for adoption. They might actually identify with him and find themselves sympathizing with him in this case.

And that is quite apart from the blowback from Mormons who would find this as an attack on their religion.

How about following the example of Ron Paul and leaving the ad hominem attacks and religious slurs to our ememies?

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The Virtual Conspiracy

Agreed

I am a full-on Ron Paul supporter and Mormon, and *I* feel like this article attacks my religion. It's the same old attacks that we've heard hundreds of times before. I don't want to see these underhanded tactics used in the name of Ron Paul.

"Moderation in temper is always a virtue; but moderation in principle is always a vice." -- Thomas Paine

if that breaks the hypnosis

if that breaks the hypnosis of the media on the masses, so be it.
since reason, economic and historical knowledge seem to hold little sway on how the uninformed/misinformed masses vote, i wouldn't mind this getting traction.

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No.

Romney has plenty of actual things wrong with him and his policies to be concerned about, but this is a sensationalistic non story. It is hearsay from a jaded woman that most likely did not happen the way she says or was highly embellished for political or religious reasons, or both. That is not how Mormon Bishops counsel their members and I doubt even Romney acted that way. Tabloid fluff

Well...I think it IS a smoking gun...

...and I am going to do everything I can to get her on our morning show!

I agree that Romney has many more serious flaws than his religious beliefs, but this kind of treatment is just the kind of thing that most couch potatoes can understand, because the real issues are beyond our dumbed down society.

The name of the game here is BEAT ROMNEY...in case the campaign has forgotten....

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"Truth is an absolute defense to the charge of paranoia."

The Name of The Game

is not Beat Romney. The name of the game (and, to me, it is no game) is to restore Liberty to the people by electing Dr. Paul.

This is not status quo politics as usual. Due to Dr. Paul's character and wisdom there is a return to civility and respect.

Hope you reconsider pushing this on your show; however, if you do...please don't in any way insinuate that it is something Ron Paul or the majority of his supporters would approve of.

I know you are a loyal Ron Paul backer; however, whenever you include something in your program that you *think* would help Dr. Paul, ask yourself if he would ever say "I approve this message." He would not approve this message. It is way beneath him, unnecessary and almost sleezy.

fonta

The ends justify the means, huh?

Sure, go ahead and participate in the persecution of a minority religion so you can poke Romney in the eye. Of course we LDS Ron Paul supporters will thank you for that as we try to explain our support of Ron Paul after RP supporters participate in religious persecution. Way to go, representative of Ron Paul.

Sarcasm off, now. We can't afford to play double standards here. "Sure, we'll play fair ... except against Romney. Yes, we believe in being tolerant of other people ... except when convenient for us."

We cannot win this battle to convert hearts and waken minds if we act this way.

"Moderation in temper is always a virtue; but moderation in principle is always a vice." -- Thomas Paine

Cold.

Coincidence that the son Dane resembles Willard.

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Formerly rprevolutionist

How cute. An attack made to

How cute. An attack made to make Willard appear to be a some kind of far right conservative.

you want to see just what kind of man Romney really is?

Clayton Holton of Granite Staters for Medical Marijuana asks Gov. Mitt Romney if he will have seriously ill patients like himself arrested for using medical marijuana with their doctor's approval. Gov. Romney doesn't answer the question and turns his back on Clayton.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NY6UTnS6Z-A

I submit that Romney is ineligible to be POTUS on the grounds that he isn't even a human being.

Truth, Justice and the American way.

I remember that

Thanks.

I tell you a story.
Talked with an apolitical guy about Paul vs Romney and he was surprised that Romney is a republican he thought he was a democrat LOL

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LOL

Well, he wasn't exactly WRONG http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWDJEc92d38&feature=youtu.be

What are you fightin' for?
Caught in the middle?
Freedom is only for those with the guts to defend it!

The PTB like him

the same holds true concerning the Obama scandals.

"Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the office of a thoroughly nasty business concern." ~~C.S. Lewis
Love won! Deliverance from Tyranny is on the way! Col. 2:13-15

hey Libera you just gave me an idea

Since both Obama and Romney are funded by the same bunch of banks etc it makes sense for them to run on the same ticket.

Obama Romney vs Paul Napolitano

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Great Idea!

That would actually give us a real choice, instead of paying the carnival barker's flip coin game where the coin has two tails, (or two heads, depending on what you chose) so you never win.

"Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the office of a thoroughly nasty business concern." ~~C.S. Lewis
Love won! Deliverance from Tyranny is on the way! Col. 2:13-15

I liked the comment about Planet Kolob

"Why didn't he just tell her to ship the baby off to Planet Kolob? That's the nearest planet to where God resides, so the Mormons say. He'll get his own planet, one day, too, if he's a good boy. "

Mitt Romney - If You Could Hie to Kolob
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeqQ1gAzGtw

And they call us "Wing Nuts"?

I like Earth and want to stay and live here as a free and independent human being born of nature and abiding to the natural law of Earth, thank you very much! He should be running as president of Kolob, if that is his destiny, not here on our beautiful Earth.

So, we send the current occupant of the White House

where? To his own native country? (if America, how do we get him impeached? if it is not America, how do we get the Congress to gain a spine?)

"Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the office of a thoroughly nasty business concern." ~~C.S. Lewis
Love won! Deliverance from Tyranny is on the way! Col. 2:13-15