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Are Texans really this stupid? Fat chance!

I mean, I know they liked the Bush family (supposedly)...but...A liberal Massachusetts cultist?:

http://www.texastribune.org/texas-politics/2012-presidential...

I find this REAL HARD to believe.




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Susie 4 Liberty's picture

And I caught on to your tongue-in-cheek title, Steve Martin

And should have gone to bed before I read the comments. I'm tired; we all are.

I'm glad you posted the article so I can remember who/what the Texas Tribune was and still is...

Thanks

Susie 4 Liberty

If the republican party in TX

If the republican party in TX was coalescing being Romney, 34% would not still be voting Newt! Let's see a poll of Romney VS Paul in Texas and then see what they say. Something tells me with Newt out, Ron Paul will easily pick up 20% the rest will follow. I just saw a PPP poll that showed Ron Paul VS Obama in Montana is a bigger lead than Romney VS Obama because RP beats Obama by 22% with Independents! Big things are happening!

Paul will do better than Debra Medina

Texans might come out to vote for Romney over Obama, but they won't waste their day in a primary vs Paul.

Romney, can't pull 300 people at an event, he has no backing, less than half the numbers McCain was pulling in 2008 and the entire media establishment backing him, he is toast if he goes against Obama, Paul is the only one who can win.

Susie 4 Liberty's picture

BUT Debra Medina had to overcome ole Glenn

And people have caught onto him... He went 'somewhere' with 'someone' and returned a different person

BUT BEFORE he left, he'd already 'thrown in' with Perry.

Debra Medina still has a role in TX politics, for sure! In fact, leading a Legislative Hearing in the morning which I want to attend.

So, Good Night...All

Susie 4 Liberty

YES! Bible belt blue blue

YES! Bible belt blue blue blah blah!!! very rough here in north tx. I've had drag outs w/my brother who told me I was crazy(i am) After 2008, he finally came to US. Told me yesterday Ron Paul was propaganda and was all about Romney!!! He said he knew about the delagate process. Didn't know about last wk, did'nt know about anything except Romney would be good for US. WHAT!? Also w/other relatives, Ive begged them to look up Ron Paul. Romney is a business MAN and will help us. WHAT!? Collin County is total NEOCON. It's been the WE generation for 40 years. Don't wan't to vote you down, Anywhere but here HE Will Do Very Well!! Love you Ron Paul. Wish I could do more.

Keep on working at them -

Keep on working at them - sooner or later they will be for Ron Paul or wish they were.

I've never understood

I've never understood "Pro-war christians"... it just sounds to me like a "contradiction in terms"

Think that's crazy? Try "Pro-preemptive war christians".

Guess the motto is "Do unto others BEFORE they do unto you"?

The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself.
Friedrich Nietzsche

It absolutely is.

Well, said.

"Truth is an absolute defense to the charge of paranoia."

I hope fellow Texans dislike that article ...

... and rebel against it. Texas is a huge place, with as much variety of people in it as anywhere else, except they tend to be exceptionally proud of being Texans.

C'mon, Texas, be proud! Take offense at this article and vote Ron Paul in protest of Romney, at the very least.

"Moderation in temper is always a virtue; but moderation in principle is always a vice." -- Thomas Paine

Susie 4 Liberty's picture

I hated the 'heck' out of it...

BUT apparently all replies go on FACEBOOK. (?)

Susie 4 Liberty

JustLiberty4US's picture

Ross Perot

Speaking of Texans, does anyone know if Perot supports Dr. Paul?

Perot supports one person....

....Perot.

Speaking from personal experience.

Steve Martin
Platform Committee Chairman
United We Stand
Franklin County, ME '92-'93

"Truth is an absolute defense to the charge of paranoia."

I don't know how

One can isolate one state's citizenry from another regarding the group think that hard liners in both parties steadfastly cling to. Might ought to think about changing your title for one!

you might want to change your

you might want to change your name, because i think you should..
see how stupid that sounds? its his title, get over it. the polls he's questioning are about TEXAS thats why he asks about TEXAS, WHY IS THIS SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND?

There is no insult in my title.

Come on, read it. Of course the answer is NO! I've said that repeatedly now.

Of course, the title is saying Texans AREN'T STUPID; and, again, for the 5th time, that the MSM and the smug liars at these "polling companies" THINK YOU ARE.

Give 'em some TX "what for!"...not me.

"Truth is an absolute defense to the charge of paranoia."

One would think that a member with as much time as you...

Would remember the "vote count" in Ron Paul's district for Congressman compared to the SAME EXACT people's "vote count" for President...

Are you really that forgetful, or did you just not know? Since you have insulted my state with the title of this post, I feel confident that you will respond to this.

Edit: I meant the "vote count" in 2008.

since you did not READ, you

since you did not READ, you have shown stupidity and thus insulted OUR state. take the blinders off gain a little perspective, he hasn't messed with texas, but you got your panties so twisted up you didn't finish reading the title

Just so you know...

I did in fact, read the title. However, the title has changed. And now you are the one to show...

I won't down vote you though. The title WAS changed and there is no way you could have known that.

In fairness

while perhaps not the most well thought out headline, the OP was in fact asking a question, and not making a blanket statement.

Considering LBJ, both Bushes, Rick Perry, and all who voted for them, not to mention Jerry Jones, John Hagee and Vanilla Ice, it's a question worth asking IMHO. : )

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Huh…not thought out……

YA THINK??

yeah YOU didn't think about

yeah YOU didn't think about what a question is and what the term fat chance means

Just because someone lives in Texas does not mean they

are a "Texan". (Bush family included)

The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself.
Friedrich Nietzsche

AMEN TO THAT!

W is as Texas as a polar bear.

"Truth is an absolute defense to the charge of paranoia."

Texans are actually quite bright...

Cowboys fans excluded of course. ; )

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Texas Divided

Texans are not stupid, they just have differing sets of priorities. Within the Republican Party you have pro-war Christians, libertarian leaning individuals and the establishment power brokers. Some of the pro-war Christians are part of the establishment.

Ron Paul will do well around college campuses. The problem is that the election this time will be during the summer when students are at home thanks to the federal courts intervention. While it is likely the primary election will stay May 29, a court case is still pending in Washington D.C. that could reschedule the election again.

It is important for non-Texas college students attending college in Texas that have already had a primary in their home state to vote absentee in Texas if they are going to be back in their home state during the summer.

Also remember that Gingrich will be out of the race next week. Texas Republicans will have 8 candidates on the ballot for President to include Santorum and Gingrich.

This poll is a snapshot in time and not real accurate. With Gingrich dropping out, you will find 60-75% of the Santorum and Gingrich supporters going to Romney giving him a majority of the vote.

As of right now (and it could change soon) Texas Republicans allocate delegates proportionally. However if they think for a moment that Ron Paul will get a sizable number the Republican Party has already said it will change the system to a winner take all. This would limit Ron Paul to only getting delegates if he breaks 40% (I believe).

A LOT of education has to go on. Ron Paul has a lot of negatives in Texas due to the large evangelical pro-war christian demographic. While Texans value personal liberty, they are more concerned with fighting war over personal liberty in most cases. To break this prioritization, discussion has to happen with voters door by door, educating those voters who are leaning towards our ideas or those who we know show up at every election regardless of what race is on the ballot.

Our best case scenario is to send as many people to the State convention as possible and if it looks like Ron Paul will not get many delegates to have Ron Paul people run as Romney delegates. While Ron Paul is a faithful contributor to the Texas Republican Party, they do not want him to get any delegates.

However also remember that in a good portion of the state the Presidential race is the main item on the ballot over local races. Since Santorum and Gingrich will be out of the race (but on the ballot) Republicans may very well stay at home thinking the nomination is already settled.

Last night proved that the

Last night proved that the hope that most of Santorum and Gingrich's voters would switch to Ron Paul is wrong. Also..this poll was taken AFTER Santorum dropped out. And it shows that half of Santorum's votes are going to Romney. (Last night showed that as well) While only about 10-15% of them went to Ron Paul.

Also shown to be wrong is the notion that "People will assume it is over and therefore not show up." While that IS true...Last night (and pretty much EVERY election ever) has shown that people stay home PROPORTIONALLY. If anything, it is the voters for the "losers" that stay home more. Lots and lots of people that would have voted for Ron Paul last night didn't bother to vote. Because like with ANY candidate, the vast majority of the 1.3 million or so people who have voted for Ron Paul are casual voters. They have never once done anything for the campaign but vote. No donations. No sign waving, no phone from home, etc. They are going to stay home too.

If you are expecting voter apathy or people switching from dropped out candidates to overcome a 40 point deficit, you are going to be disappointed.

as for your "It will be winner take all if Ron Paul looks to get a sizable percentage...well, you just made that up on the spot. Because they have REPEATEDLY said that it would NOT go to winner take all...after everyone but Romney wanted it to. (Including Ron Paul) It is NOT going to be Winner Take All. That was a last chance desperation Hail Mary by Santorum and Texas's GOP said no.

Not to mention...they wouldn't even NEED to. If Romney gets just half the Texas votes, that is plenty. The ONLY hope anyone but Romney has is to Romney to get beat BADLY. That is why Romney was the only one that DIDN'T want to change the rules mid-game and make it winner take all. Counting the rest of the states that Romney will easily win, and giving him just a low estimate 40% in the other proportional, Romney easily sails past 1144 with just half of Texas. And that is not eve counting the unbound delegates from previous states or all the super delegates he is going to get.

I agree that the turnout is

I agree that the turnout is proportional and hurts those trailing the most. What I am seeing in Texas is that Romney will get over 50% of the vote in Texas.

The winner take all comment comes directly from my SREC rep that says they have the signatures to call an SREC meeting and the votes to change to the winner take all....if they chose to in the future. While the RPT has its oppinion of how it should be, the SREC has the votes to call an emergency meeting to get around the State Chairman....this info again comes from my SREC rep who has been working to change it to a winner take all. They have repeatedly voted to remain a proportional state but the SREC members have said they want it changed. Right now it makes no sense to change it since Gingrich and Santorum will be out and Paul is under 20%.

Romney did not want a winner take all before because he was going to lose the state. Now that he is going to win the state he may change his mind.

Paul will get delegates at the State Convention probably as Romney 1st Ballot delegates. Realize though that the delegates are not bound when it comes to voting on party platform, resolutions, RNC Chairman etc. If you look at how Ron Paul did in Virginia when it was really just two people in the race, the potential is in place, albeit a slim one for Paul to break 40% because it will be down to him and Romney. Ron Paul could end up with the majority of the delegates at the National Convention, just not bound to him and make significant changes in party leadership, platform etc. They also get to chose who the VP candidate will be...and they are not bound on that either.

Mitt Romney is not a cultist

Don't forget how many of us Mormons are ardent supporters of the Good Doctor. Remember, it is the collectivists who want us to think in terms of "Texans are stupid", or "Mormons are a cult", or "all people from Massachusetts" are liberals. I'm sure the Paul supporters in Texas are working just as hard as anyone else.

"It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds."-Samuel Adams
http://brushfiresinthemind.blogspot.com/

Maybe, maybe not.

cult /kəlt/ Noun:

1. A system of religious veneration and devotion directed toward a particular figure or object.
2. A relatively small group of people having religious beliefs or practices regarded by others as strange or sinister.

The following links are for informational purposes only. My personal belief is that religion and religious practice are non-essential to an understanding of, or relationship with, that which is Divine. I also do not believe that adherence to a particular religious sect and it's teachings or a refusal to embrace any particular set of doctrines or dogmas either ensure or deny entrance into what is commonly referred to as "heaven", "eternal life" etc.

http://www.albertmohler.com/2011/10/10/mormonism-democracy-a...

http://www.inplainsite.org/html/mormonism.html

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