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CISPA To Remove 4th Amendment Rights - Stop CISPA




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I think everyone should have

I think everyone should have privacy. And no one but him, should know this. CISPA for the crime is a cool idea. But suddenly, in CISPA will work employee who wants to sell the information to the same cyber thieves about good people, such as musicians,actors, businessmans and etc. What us I do then? If this law would work, we will have to be used for surfing in the Internet Anonymous VPN services such as Hideman software, or other. Let's wait what will happen in the future.

Cispa

Cispa Art:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/expd/with/7117962933/

Good artwork for explaining Cispa in a single glance.
A picture is worht a thousand words.

Let it not be said that we did nothing.-Ron Paul
Stand up for what you believe in, even if you stand alone.-Sophia Magdalena Scholl

Our elected representative

Our elected representative are suppose to represent us, as in We, the people... Our elected representatives are sworn in to uphold the Constitution. So disgusting what is happening to this country.

Vote Ron Paul, he will stop all of this madness!

4th "Amendment Rights"?

Oh....we still have that right?

Keep dreamin'

I can't wait until "enhanced interrogation" (Torture) is considered to be a right. You darn well know it's going to happen! Say, why not get rid of that Amendment that allows 18 year olds to vote? They don't need to vote and shouldn't be allowed to vote. Then you can replace that one with the "enhanced interrogation" Amendment.

That's a pretty good idea. What do you think?

To all those asking about Paul not voting...

Ron Paul was in Texas for campaign events. Unlike the President being able to robosign bills from a distance, members of Congress have to physically be present in order to vote.

We can still fight this in the Senate. The President has threatened to veto this bill, but he also said the same thing about NDAA 2012. With Obama's track record of destroying the Constitution and the protections it codifies, we must assume the worst when it comes to his dealings in these matters.

Please call your Senator and tell them to vote NO on this bill.

Don't Count On Obama

Obama apparently wanted to veto the bill because he felt it didn't go far ENOUGH.

http://reason.com/blog/2012/04/25/white-house-threatens-veto...

Worse Now

This article says that new changes in the bill make it much worse than it was earlier:

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120426/14505718671/insani...

Wrong Matt

We don't need another bill. There are already plenty of ways that Law enforcement can catch criminals. All any new bill will do is allow them to police the internet like they do traffic.

The Internet is basically Freedom of speech and we should be able to say what ever we want and post what ever we want. There are always consequences to your actions but we don't need a possible shut down of a person or a group because they said something the government doesn't like.

IE Bradly Manning

"If you think we can't change the world, it just means you're not one of those that will"

Jacque Fresco

Sooo.... wait a minute...

Why didn't Ron Paul vote "No" on this atrocity of a bill? It says he didn't vote at all, which is a bit odd, given his track record on liberty.

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2012/roll192.xml

Matt

Posted by Justin Amash on Facebook

Amash ~ "I voted "no" on CISPA. The bill passed 248-168, but my amendment to protect library, tax, gun, educational, and medical records also passed 415-0."

Blessings )o(

Debbie's picture

Awesome - thanks for the info. I would love to see his

speech about the amendment.

Debbie

Did he really just say that government agencies need to be in

control of the net?

Patriot Cell #345,168
I don't respond to emails or pm's.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=qo8CmO...
Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution, inevitable.

Dumb Comment

Yea, it was a dumb comment by Matt. We don't need more laws on the internet. There are already ways to prosecute someone for "Breaking Laws" online. IE Bradly Manning

"If you think we can't change the world, it just means you're not one of those that will"

Jacque Fresco

Exactly.

We're fighting for LESS government intrusion, not more. AS you say also, we ALREADY have the necessary abilities in place for the law to do what it needs to do.

Patriot Cell #345,168
I don't respond to emails or pm's.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=qo8CmO...
Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution, inevitable.

Just passed the house

The bill just passed the house and is on to the Senate. We need to stop this now!

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/04/house-passes-cispa/

Please call your state Senators and voice your opposition to the bill. Many Senators are up for re election in November, let them know they will be held accountable!

If you don't know your Senators (shame on you) you can find the information here:

http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_c...

peace + liberty = prosperity

Done

Although I voiced my objections strongly, it's likely in vain, but likelihood should NEVER stop one from doing the right thing. ;)

As I've been discussing elsewhere, it's time to seek alternatives to the InterNet which includes DRM (Digital Radio Mondiale). I'm NOT joking and further delay in locating and purchasing transmitters will only worsen the problem for 2012. If my ISP is granted immunity to spy for the "Homeland" Security, do you honestly think that I'll retain my ISP? Think again. We're potentially just days away from this real possibility.

Blue Skies

Michael,

I still plan on fulfilling my commitment for $20 by June. Apparently, I'll have to send it via the mail. If this CISPA bill passes basically intact *, I'll be abandoning the InterNet (WWW) within days. Hence, the ability to conduct financial transactions over the InterNet will also disappear as I don't see any way to secure those transactions via public WIFI. I'll still access the InterNet intermittently via WIFI until that capability disappears, but no financial transactions will be conducted. So, this crazily irresponsible bill will now cause financial harm to both my ISP and online retailers. Too bad. Thankfully, HF digital is almost as good, but not quite due to the lack of immediate interactivity. Hopefully, a group of liberty-minded folks will move their presence to HF digital. For example, create a group around a broadcaster and lease some time for transmitting HTML data, graphics, or video along with the broadcast.

* Not only do I despise snoops, snitches, and spies as themselves, I certainly can't stand the prospect of PAYING a corporation to snoop, snitch, and spy on my personal life. I seriously can't see how mere amendment of this bill will change my decision as long as the provision of governmental and corporate cooperation and immunity remains.

fauxnews says this was passed

You can use these links,

email came in:

Sophia,

Wow -- just, wow: The last 48 hours have been extraordinary.

More than 15,000 of you have called Congress, and more than 100,000 have sent in emails to your lawmakers in opposition to CISPA.

And all of that work is starting to pay off: President Obama issued a veto threat late yesterday.

But we're not done yet: We need to keep up the pressure on Congress as they get ready to vote on Friday.

Please ask your friends to urge Obama to stand strong and to email their lawmakers to ask them to vote against CISPA.

You can use these links, and/or forward the email at bottom to your friends:
[fb] If you're already on Facebook, click here to share with your friends.
https://www.facebook.com/login.php

[fb] If you're already on Twitter, click here to tweet about the campaign: Tweet
http://twitter.com/intent/

Let's keep it coming.

-Demand Progress

Please click here to urge Obama to stand strong, and to let your lawmakers know that you support Obama's veto threat.

CISPA is up for a vote this week. It would obliterate any semblance of online privacy in the United States, giving the government -- including the military -- broad new powers to spy on Internet users.

http://act.demandprogress.org/letter/obama_cispa/%20%20?akid...

DemandProgress.org

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Spread the word

I contacted my Congresswoman this morning and then sent an email to 45 Ron Paul supporters in my area urging them to do the same.

call your rep

now!

Facebook

I have a feeling Facebook is going to lose accounts,over this. We need a site that refuses to send our information to anyone else. And, we need a smaller government, that sees no benefit in invading our God given right to privacy! I hope the Facebook stocks drop in value. If I had the smarts,and money, I would start a site that would refuse these over-reaching government hacks! They never think of the, unforeseen, consequences. The government continues as usual....

SNAFU!!!

Phone Number

Maybe it would be helpful to add the main phone number for Congress to the top of this post. When I called I got right through and we need to be overloading the switchboard right now. I knew who my rep was but I think they will help you out if you don't.

202-224-3121

they need to be liable for introducing failed legislation

if it is "substantially related" to previous failed proposals within at least a 4 year SOL.

And we should be able to enjoin them from continuing this... and the forum should be the district the congressman sponsoring the bill represents.

Why oh Why is there no law on the books

Whether you think you can or you can't, you're right. -Henry Ford

Dr. Paul Said to Call Your Reps

So, that's what we need to do. I think the House votes tomorrow. He said it made all the difference with SOPA.

Fed-Up

Take Dr. Paul's Advice

Call your Reps. about CISPA today. Time is running out as the House votes tomorrow. Please encourage your social network friends to call as they would be affected by this bill.

Fed-Up

Title of this thread has me laughing

in an admittedly crazy way. STOP Cispa? Who are you talking to? As if we can stop ANY of this sh*t.

We no longer have a representative government. At all. It's all smoke and mirrors.

Might as well lie down and

Might as well lie down and drone about our day-to-day lives without questioning authority, right?

That's basically your theory in a nutshell. Why are you supporting Ron Paul? It's certainly not to turn the system on its head with that type of attitude.

Ok

I should have said you can't stop it by just contacting your reps. They don't listen. So why waste our time with THAT.

As far as I'm concerned, you're either misinformed or delusional if you fail to see we are already under tyranny. And how can you solve your problems if you don't understand what they are? Do you know who and what you are fighting against?

No need to put words in my mouth and address me like I'm someone I'm not. Obviously, being here over 3 years, I'm not your run-of-the-mill docile shmuck.

Live free or die.

Not to single you out...

FLP I do not wish to single you out, but your headline displays a lack of rigor in our speaking that I believe is a concern going forward and ought to be an area of focus for our revolution.

We must first awaken and then help bring clarity to the minds of our fellow countrymen if we are to prevail over the forces of evil and promoters of ignorance for their benefit.

Here's where I'm going with this:

There is no such thing as 4th amendment rights. There are only 4th amendment PROTECTIONS and GUARANTEES against usurpation of GOD GIVEN rights.

As such, there is absolutely nothing CISPA or any other legal nullity produced by criminals and oath breakers on some piece of paper can do to remove those rights, and it doesn't remove the standing guarantees either. Does that mean they won't bust down your door and shoot you or haul you off? No, of course they will if they see fit, but not legally by any stretch.

We as those who are way better informed need to be clear in our speaking. There simply IS NO LAW if it is in such clear violation of the protections afforded We The People by our constitution. (See Marbury v Madison or read Tom Woods)

Let's be careful to accurately characterize these statements of criminal intent which are otherwise nothing but legal nullities.