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Virgil Goode: Constitution Party Nominee - Not Good News

According to the following article, Virgil Goode secured the Constitution Party's nomination last Saturday. Sadly, his voting record while in congress left much to be desired.

Here's the article mentioning his nomination:

The New American regularly compiles a Freedom Index, which grades our congressman on how closely they vote to the Constitution (0% is the worst, and 100% is the best). In case you're wondering how legitimate their scoring is, Ron Paul is the only person to consistently get 100%. I looked up Mr. Goode's voting and was quite disappointed.

You can find their freedom index compilation here: http://www.jbs.org/index.php?option=com_rokdownloads&view=fo...

He served in the House from 1997 to 2009. Though the website only goes back to 2006, you can get an idea of how he voted.

2006 - 64%
2007 - 63%
2008 - 72%

I did this to inform those considering voting for the Constitution Party candidate, if Dr. Paul doesn't get the GOP nomination. As you can see, you'll be better off writing Paul in or staying home than wasting your vote on Mr. Goode. Though he scored about twice as high as the average congressman, that's a low bar to compare against. My bars are the Constitution and the Scriptures, and only Dr. Paul comes close.

I've been reading on this site for a long time, and I've been a member for a couple of months (I think), but this is my first post. I was a delegate at my district conventions in Georgia, will be an alternate delegate (maybe move up to delegate) at the state convention, and have donated hundreds of dollars to the campaign. I've been a constitutionalist since about 2005, supported Ron Paul in 2008, and successfully persuaded several of my Fundamental Independent Baptist friends (including my pastor) to be Ron Paul supporters. I only say this to minimize troll accusations because I'm a first-poster.

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So it is time to retake the Republican Party.

Throw THEM out!


In 2008 I voted Constitutional Party.

Not this time. It will be Ron Paul if/when he gets the Republican nomination, and if not it will be Libertarian Party.

Barr was the reason I did not vote Libertarian in 2008 and Goode will be the reason I could not vote Constitutional in 2012.

"Bend over and grab your ankles" should be etched in stone at the entrance to every government building and every government office.

I don't think I'll ever write anybody in.

I just believe in voting for people who are actually making an effort to win a particular office. It could be that this Virgil Goode is the best choice we have on the ballot if Dr. Paul doesn't get the nomination. Personally, that will depend a lot on how non-interventionist his foreign policy is.

If Paul doesn't get the nom...

...I will vote for whom he endorses. He would endorse someone like himself. In 2008 it was Chuck Baldwin...that's who I voted for. He still has recently wrote some very good things about Paul. He has a website and is a Pastor. You would like him.

here's a quote from racist

here's a quote from racist fool virgil goode: "if American citizens don’t wake up and adopt the Virgil Goode position on immigration there will likely be many more Muslims elected to office."

i guess the constitution party doesn't believe in freedom of religion anymore?


If he means Muslims who want

If he means Muslims who want the Sharia then he's right about that. I'm not sure he knows the distinction considering he was a neocon while in the House.

who cares about the constitution party this cycle

Bob Barr is gone and Gary is much better

I vote for the person - Goode is no good

I voted for Chuck Baldwin in 2008 (I knew Bob Barr was a snake!)

Baldwin had very "Ron Paul" stances on things, and hearing him speak I felt justified and ethical voting for him. But....I disagree with the Constitution Party in many ways. The Constitution Party is a bunch of theorcrats that want to ignore the parts of the Constitution they don't like. They also run contrary to the American Enlightenment of Thomas Paine, Jefferson, etc...

Seeing the history of Goode just confirms that he is not worth trust.

"In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot."--Mark Twain


And what religion wants the United States again? Have your Civil Religion. I never want Christianity to be attached to the warmongering United States. I will let you have it. I will just go back to my Church. Also, get the State out of my Church. Never tax the Church, get the tendrils out. We do not need the State.

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I never want Christianity to be attached to the warmongering United States.

to that, Burning S.Ω™ Amen to that!

Predictions in due Time...

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

virgil is no goode!

here's a quote from racist fool virgil goode: "if American citizens don’t wake up and adopt the Virgil Goode position on immigration there will likely be many more Muslims elected to office."

i guess the constitution party doesn't believe in freedom of religion anymore?



On your fist post.
Although this info is, as you say, "not good news", it is news.
...and isn't the exchange of info and such why we are all here?

Information is power...keep it coming.

"Beyond the blackened skyline, beyond the smoky rain, dreams never turned to ashes up until.........
...Everything CHANGED !!

The Constitution Party is

The Constitution Party is ineffectual and irrelevant.

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"Fully half the quotations found on the internet are either mis-attributed, or outright fabrications." - Abraham Lincoln

All parties are ineffectual

All parties are ineffectual if people don't get behind them and support their platforms. I don't find the Constitution irrelevant at all. That is what our platform is based on.

Unconditional Support for the Constitution

CPIndiana wrote:
"All parties are ineffectual if people don't get behind them and support their platforms. I don't find the Constitution irrelevant at all. That is what our platform is based on."

Unconditional support for the constitution and its principles, put the constitution first because of its principles.

Principles have priority and, reasonably, logic must be used to define that priority. Or . . . or "emotional reasoning" is not constitutional.

It would appear very logical and consistent with uncondititonal support to see the constitution party provide unconditional support through support for an Article V convention, the first constitutional right of Americans.

It would appear very logical and consistent that the constitution party endorse that citizens are informed that preparation for a general Article V can restore a large degree of constitutionality and that use of Article V IS the ultimate tool of defense for the constitution.

It would also appear very logical and consistent with unconditional support that the constitution party seek to inform soldiers that they would like to see soldiers defending the constitution, constitutionally. Lawfully and peaceful.

This thread is about that.


Can we stop doing all the things we are doing that we do not want to do while still doing what we need to do?

So then what?

In effect, so are all of the parties not in control. We need to fight together whenever we can, especially Libertarians, Constitutionalists and Independents.

Goode, good enough

I am convinced I will never see my perfect candidate in my lifetime, though Ron Paul is as close as I will probably ever see. However I will not write in a name for president, most of those votes are not even counted(especially in my county) so I will vote for someone on the ballot or not at all. I will be supporting Virgil Goode if Ron Paul does not get the nomination. He is much better than he was 5 years ago and was a member of Ron Paul's Liberty caucus. I have given up on the Republican party hope to live to see its demise. My hope is that my kids will get to chose between the Constitution party and the Libertarian party and that they will not simply become what the Republincans and Democrats are today. My main concerns are a free market, pro 2nd amend., pro life and private property rights, I feel that Virgil Goode would help protect those.

Donate and Help Thomas Massie First Please

We all can focus on the general election in the fall campaign. The Constitution Party across the nation will receive between 150-225k votes. If we help Thomas Massie can past the seven way primary in the Commonwealth of Kentucky we will continue Dr. Paul's legacy in the US Congress. So, let us support him and other liberty candidates. Please help by going here: http://www.thomasmassie.com/

Looks great!!

I will pass this info on to my family and Friends in Kentucky. He looks like a great candidate.


Dang I forgot state sovereignty!!!

Goode Regrets Past Votes

Virgil Goode made it known in his acceptance speech at the Constitution Party's National Convention that

#1) By being involved and mentored by leaders in the party, he realized that some of his past votes did not line up with the Constitution

#2) He said his past vote for the Patriot Act was a mistake and as President he would repeal the provisions of the act as they apply to American Citizens

#3) He said his vote for the Iraq War was a mistake and has made it known to those in our party (through debates and questionnaires) that we should never go to war unless it's declared by Congress. He made it clear he would end the war in Afghanistan and bring our troops home

Virgil will be the only 100% pro-life candidate. He supports ending unconstitutional programs and foreign aid. He's the only candidate that supports stopping illegal immigration and closing our borders. He fought hard for that when he was a Congressman.

There are several reasons why the Constitution Party is not endorsing Ron Paul. Our former Midwest Chairman (currently now our new national Vice Chairman) wrote about those reasons here... http://www.cpindiana.org/ron_paul.html We love Ron on the issues, but he is running in the wrong party. One that has never supported his Constitutional views.

Last Election

The CP supported Rep. Paul until the GOP selected McCain and THEN they offered Baldwin. Why could they not do this again? Why undercut Ron Paul if he can get the GOP nomination? In that case, you would be helping reelect Obama.

Excellent first post

Post more!!!

To Goode's credit he did say

To Goode's credit he did say he regretted voting for the PATRIOT Act, and he also said that he wants to bring our troops home (though he hasn't said he regretted his Iraq War vote)

Also to his credit he is a foe to global government.

That being said, his overall voting record leaves much to be desired. Granted Johnson supports the Fair Tax, but overall I think Johnson has better experience, a better record, and better positions. I know some people here can't vote for him because he is pro-choice. But I must remind people that he still believes it should be a state issue and I remember hearing him at one point in time saying he supports overturning Roe v. Wade, and several pro-life groups gave him a good record because as governor he signed several pro-life legislation.

All in all, I hope the third party candidates get to debate amongst each other if they can't get on stage with Obama and whoever the Republican is. Even if its only on CSPAN, I think it would be fun to watch a Green, a Libertarian, and Goode all debate each other on the issues. Especially since they probably agree on more things then they disagree.

liberty lover in Nor Cal!

So did Bob Barr. Then he

So did Bob Barr. Then he voted for Gingrich this time around and endorsed him. I don't trust him. Not to mention the fact that he's a christian theocrat.

If Ron Paul is not the

If Ron Paul is not the nominee then this will be the person I vote for. I can not vote for Johnson since he is pro choice. Even thos this cat may not be a 100%er.. it is still a protest vote. This protest vote is my way of telling the neocons and communists that they don't own me. It tells them that I am on to their game. It is my way of giving them the double bird.


As I recall, he was somewhat cheated in the last election.

I think this guy was coming around and that is why he lost.

Voting like he did in Virginia must of put him at odds with the party leadership imo.


Stay the course

We are taking over the GOP so stay the course....America needs you to! Time to squash these NeoCon Cockroaches....

"If ever time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin."
Samuel Adams

Just another reason to stay and fight in the Republican party!

Bob Barr (and the stupid libertarians who nominated this HAWK) is the only excuse I need to fight it out as a Republican.

If well intentioned libertarians would crossover and vote Republican we would dominate one of the two major parties.


It is odd that people have to

It is odd that people have to explain themselves on here. I have only been a member for a few months, but that doesn't gauge my support from Paul (Kind of supports a fellow poster on here about a similar subject.) In any regard, I appreciate the post although I planned on writing Paul in anyways ;)

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