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Near Sweep for Ron Paul in Massachusetts

We just swept MA district 7, getting the 3 delegates and 3 alternates.

And I heard the same about districts 2, 3 and 5.

We might just sweep this whole state -- and then some.


UPDATE: regarding the sticker issue, just wanted to add that they were handing those out inside the building at district 7 as well. Barring that, the rest of the meeting ran smoothly and without controversy.

Thanks for the video link, FreedomLovingPatriot


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Not all...

...are Romney people but certainly a majority.

thank you very much

thank you very much

ZERO coverage in local press...

You can't really blame them, this isn't something they usually cover and I doubt many of them even know what happened. So, why hasn't the Paul campaign blasted them with a press release? You can't blame them for not covering a story they don't know about.

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These are stealth candidates and bound to Romney

The news could be "Big whoop: Delegates that are bound to Romney elected at sleepy MA caucuses."

I think the MA caucus being non-proportional for the primary winner + being Republican is a non-event to everybody in the world who doesn't know what the "Ronald Reagan Liberty Slate" is/was.

Currently consuming: Gatto: "Underground history of education..", FDR; Wii U; NEP Football


the Boston Globe covered the event today (online, but not yet in print):


If the Paul camp wants to shape the media narrative, they should send out a press release before this is printed tomorrow.

that was to Paul's advantage

There was really no announcement of these caucuses anywhere. If it had been broadcast and more people attended, most would have been Romney supporters. It helped Paul to have it be secretive, but of course it hurts that since no one cared in the first place, no one is going to talk about it afterward.

All the more reason...

to do a press release. I'm sure they'll get to it, I just question the wisdom of waiting.

It is not official yet.

There are still provisional ballots to be counted. All caucuses have been recorded and ready to be uploaded soon.

True, but it is clear we've won overwhelmingly...

the establishment recognizes this and they're licking their wounds. Even Romney's former Lt. Governor was defeated. That's not news you sit on.

Rules of the republican party

Share this with everyone you know, turns out the RNC rules state the delegates may NOT have to vote for their "bound" cantidate? Read this article and share it!
In the article is a link for the rules of the republican party. specifically look at rule #38 and rule #42. 38 clearly states that "No delegate or alternate delegate shall be bound by any attempt of any state or Congressional district to impose the unit rule.
‎42 states that rules 25 through 42 are "temporary" rules of the next national convention and its committees and subcommittees. I assume they mean the previous election, but still interesting nonetheless.

Tommy F is right

You are wrong about this. You should remove your posts so as to not cloud the chances and give misinformation.

I don't think you are

I don't think you are completely right. The party rejects any attempts from the states to interfere in its internal affairs, so the governor or the legislature has no say BUT regulations decided by the GOP state committee or state convention does not violate that particular provision of Rules of the Republican Party.

However, the sanctions imposed on delegates not abiding by state rules on bound delegates are generally imposed by state law. This leaves a loophole. This might best be discussed in a closed forum.

Some time, Rock, when the team is up against it, when things are wrong and the breaks are beating the boys, ask them to go in there with all they've got and win just one for the Gipper.

You are correct

LPR is posting this link and info on many posts and pages and it is incorrect information. We need to stop passing around incorrect information.

Simply Put - A "Bound" Or "Pledged" Delegate Is Comparable To

A Politician Who Makes A Promise To Vote A Particular Platform Once Elected To Office...Essentially a campaign promise... In the end you cannot force a delegate to vote one way or another whether it's first ballot, second ballot, whatever ballot. Your Vote=Your Right. It's called VOTING RIGHTS!!! As delegates we simply are exercising our voting rights. Also The Constitution 15th Amendment addresses the issue of binding and supersedes the election code, see below:

The Fifteenth Amendment (Amendment XV) to the United States Constitution prohibits each government in the United States from denying a citizen the right to vote based on that citizen's "race, color, or previous condition of servitude" (for example, slavery). It was ratified on February 3, 1870.

Part of Speech: noun
Definition: slavery
Synonyms: bondage, bonds, chains, confinement, enslavement, obedience, peonage, serfdom, serfhood, subjection, subjugation, thrall, thralldom, vassalage, yoke

Part of Speech: noun
Definition: sign of good faith
Synonyms: bail, bond, collateral, deposit, earnest, gage, guarantee, guaranty, pawn, security, surety, token, warrant, warranty

Part of Speech: adjective
Definition: obligated; destined
Synonyms: apprenticed, articled, bent, bounden, certain, coerced, compelled, constrained, contracted, doomed, driven, duty-bound, enslaved, fated, firm, forced, having no alternative, impelled, indentured, intent, made, necessitated, obligated, obliged, pledged, pressed, required, restrained, sure, under compulsion, under necessity, urged

According to the Constitution 15th Amendment "Bounding" or "Pledging" to effectively limit voting Is Unconstitutional and therefore Unlawful and Unenforceable or Null And Void if written into the election code or any other code...

-LibertyG ... 2 Corinthians 2:16-17 "To some we are a scent of death leading to death, but to others, a scent of life leading to life. And who is competent for this? For we are not like the many who make a trade(for profit) but as those with sincerity...

Unbind Yourselves?

This is just a thought and might not even be able to be done since all the states are so different in their party rules .... but

Have you considered that the rules for the State GOP are set at State GOP conventions. This means that if your state rules bind the delegates, the only time that rule can be changed is when all you guys attend the state convention. If there is a plurality of Ron Paul people, then does it not follow that the majority of people there can vote a new rule making your state delegates unbound?

It just seems that I see lots of people talking about abstaining when really they could get an alternate to vote for you. Actually changing your status to unbound might be a way to go. This isn't just for MA btw, could not this be done in all other sticky places such as Alaska.

Just double-checking

Even with the victory in Massachusetts yesterday, it don't count towards our five states for Rule 40, does it?

Well, the remaining delegates

Well, the remaining delegates will be selected by the state committee, so we have no chance their. If we had just swept a couple more districts, we would have gotten a majority in the state, so it won't count anyway.


Running round my head last

Running round my head last few days ;)

Don't Look Back by Boston

Don't look back
A new day is breakin'
It's been too long since I felt this way
I don't mind where I get taken
The road is callin'
Today is the day

And I can see
It took so long just to realize
I'm much too strong
Now, to compromise
Now I see what I am is holding me down
I'll turn it around, oh yes I will

I finally see the dawn arrivin'
I see beyond the road I'm drivin'

Trust in God, but tie your camel tight.

"Socialism needs two legs on which to stand; a right and a left. While appearing to be in complete opposition to one another,they both march in the same direction." - Paul Proctor

Romney And Obama.......

They're just opposite wings on the same bird of prey.

It is a mistake to trash the Republican Party...

What we are doing is somewhat Machiavellian. Mitt Romney did win the popular vote as we are taking advantage of the delegate process and our willingness to participate.

If Romney does not attain the required number of votes on the first ballot but in order for that to happen our delegates do not keep their word to be "bound" we will not be respected and deservedly so.

To expect the funding sources to bankroll Ron Paul as the presidential nominee of the Republican Party it would be unwise for us to deal with them in a disrespectful manner.

There was no good reason for our candidates for the delegate positions to hide the fact that they were Ron Paul supporters. We either had the votes present no matter what they said in their speeches or not. It would have been better for them to express just what reasons they thought that Ron Paul would be the better candidate.

Likewise at the convention we should take advantage of the opportunity to enlighten whoever is watching on nationwide or worldwide television.

We will need the Republican Party members to support Ron Paul including the ones who voted for any of the others in the primary season. IF the main idea is to simply dethrone the person in the White House that is one thing. But what we want to do is restore the limited Constitutional Republic and solve the financial crisis with all the unemployment etc.

It is hard to imagine Romney supporters donating to a Ron Paul presidential run if we are disrespectful now.

No Man's need constitutes an obligation on the part of another man to fulfill that need.

They can join the R3volution, or not.

The Republican Party is represented by its delegates at the Convention, not the other way around. The voters select those delegates.

Binding the delegates has been an effective tool for manipulating the process, as the people are easily misled and manipulated. That is why the founding fathers eschewed democracy, for a democratically elected, representative republic under contract with the people.

Machiavelli set a trap for the Prince by helping the Prince establish a tyrannical reign that will collapse under the weight of its own tyrannies. It worked. What did Machiavelli want? A republic.

"The Discourses on the First Ten Books of Titus Livy (Discorsi) nominally discuss a classical history of early Ancient Rome. Machiavelli presents it as a series of lessons on how a republic should be started and structured. It is a larger work than the Prince, and it more openly explains the advantages of republics. It includes early versions of the concept of checks and balances, and asserts the superiority of a republic over a principality. It became one of the central texts of republicanism." ~wiki

Free includes debt-free!

Before you can rebuild a thing

you must first tear the old one down. Romney has disrespected his own ideals, we are just pointing that out. It boggles my mind how RP can be marginalized by the uninformed masses of flag waving patriots, yet when we point out a real liar we need to rein in the truth because it might offend someone. BS, This Train is Bound for Glory...This Train.

"I find television very educating. Every time somebody turns on the set, I go into the other room and read a book." Groucho Marx



Start Planning for the Obama inauguration dinner...

Isn't jamming the Republican convention with "undercover" Ron Paul delegates; a lot like forcing your way into the Obama inauguration dinner after the election?

Obama winning because the Republican vote is split.

Isn't it a bit pointless?

No thanks, I don't eat

No thanks, I don't eat dog...lol

The Constitution stands as a model of cooperative statesmanship and the art of compromise.


The closer we get to winning the more trolls we will see.

First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win

What is POINTLESS is you

What is POINTLESS is you coming on here thinking your going to sway a Ron Paul supporter to vote for Romney to beat Obama.

Not only is it pointless is is downright absurd and laughable!

To arms! To arms! The Redcoats are coming!

All you need to do

is give up on Romney, the progressive liberal RINO, and nothing will be "split".

Start learning how to become a conservative Republican again, and give up on the liberals like Romney.

We have a solid reason to support one of the all-time great conservative icons of the Republican Party.
What's your excuse for supporting one of the most liberal Democrat-in-RINO-clothing losers that has ever come down the pike?

maybe you and romney

can go together.

romney or obama?
what's the DIFFERENCE?

romney would never force healthcare on us.
oh, wait, he's already done so.
romney would never interpret the 2nd amendment to limit us to varmint hunting.
oh, wait, he already did.

your turn.

"The two weakest arguments for any issue on the House floor are moral and constitutional"
Ron Paul


you should join us if you don't want Obama to win. RP is the only one who can beat Obama.