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So what happens when police beat a totally innocent man in America?

Why nothing of course:

"A jury wanted the city to pay for a police officer using excessive force.

Police took down Dan Halsted while he was just innocently walking home. The officer stunned Halsted five times with a Taser in the back because he thought he sprayed some graffiti.

Halsted was tackled by a Portland police officer in the Northeast Portland neighborhood of Sullivan’s Gulch four years ago.

“I was walking home and all of a sudden a flashlight came on in my eyes and I stopped, and I heard a voice say, ‘Get him!’ And I heard footsteps coming at me, so I turned and I ran.”

In the pitch dark, Halsted thought he was being jumped.

“I didn’t know what was going on,” he said. “I was screaming to call the police the whole time, and I didn’t realize this was the police because they never identified themselves at all.”

Police had mistaken Halsted for a tagger who hit a nearby building.

“The arresting officer in his police report, he made up a whole other story and said that I had been running down the street with a couple other people.”

That’s the same thing the officer testified to in court when Halsted sued. In reality Halsted had been with friends at the Rose and Thistle Restaurant and was never charged with any crime."

Story here: http://www.theagitator.com/2012/04/28/wrong-guy/



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Nothing...

Wake up. You are slaves and servants until you start acting otherwise.

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2012 State Elections

try to get your state officials running to support stand your ground law in your state to apply to everyone than you can defend yourself against them.

Why are tax dollars used as restitution?

We need to change the laws and make the individual officers financially responsible for their actions. I'm tired of paying for the illegal actions of corrupt police, teachers and government reps.

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"The greatest mystery of all is truth." - Me, 2009

I agree about suing the cops, but sue the department too!

The argument that the payments are "taxpayers' money" is bogus. Once the police department gets the money, no taxpayer is ever going to get it back - unless said taxpayer sues for it and wins! Sue the police departments. Starve the beasts.

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"Fully half the quotations found on the internet are either mis-attributed, or outright fabrications." - Abraham Lincoln

Because police have

Because police have unqualified immunity. Pretty much a license to kill.

I agree

It is actually called "Qualified Immunity" and judges have "Absolute Immunity". It is a very serious problem that needs to be repaired as soon as possible.

If I disappear from a discussion please forgive me. My 24-7 business requires me to split mid-sentence to serve them. I am not ducking out, I will be back later to catch up.

Yea thats the problem, there

Yea thats the problem, there are never any consequences for this kind of thing to the perpetrators, only to the taxpayers.

It only costs around $12, at

It only costs around $12, at your county courthouse, to file a lien on a police officers Bond

Don't live in America, it's

Don't live in America, it's that simple! They're all nuts anyway.

Where do you go then? I am

Where do you go then? I am open to suggestions...

You do realize 'murrica and

You do realize 'murrica and her population are but a tiny fraction of the great big world that's out there, no?

Pretty much anywhere. From

Pretty much anywhere. From what I've seen, in almost any country you'd be safer from police abuse than America. I mean, North Korea or Cuba aside.

Police in Cuba are much less

Police in Cuba are much less abusive than American cops. Actually, they're quite polite and tend to overlook a lot of things 'murkin cops wouldn't.

There's just something about power trips in the gringo culture, which probably explains why they think everybody who's actually in power is on some sort of conspiratorial power trip.

I can believe it. The biggest

I can believe it. The biggest enemy to reform is the ridiculous idea that in America we have more freedom than other places. I have a friend that worked in China last year and he was shocked at the freedom there. His opinion was that as long as you don't critisize the government in Beijing then in your daily life you are free to do prety much what you want. He said cops there are polite and helpful and don't mess with you. Although its still a police state that kind of tells you something about where we are in America today.

China technically has less

China technically has less freedom, but in practice their government is much less of a pain in the ass. Surprisingly, you can actually kid and joke and talk to the police there unlike the ones in the states who just stand there looking like some sort of aloof Nazi science project gone wrong.

It's like I've been saying all along, power trips are unique to American culture, which is a very good reason to avoid them entirely.

Evil you might be interested

Evil you might be interested in this. I saw it on an economics blog and cut it out and I forgot where I originally got it but it's still worth a look and illustrates your pont about power trips and how authoritarian America culture has become:

"Two weeks later, after the mini-symposium on “Forecast 2012” in Amsterdam on Saturday, January 21, I had another experience that would surprise many USA citizens, and again demonstrates the disconnect that has subtly evolved between the government and the people it serves. After the very successful mini-Congress, the organizer - Irma Schogt of Schogt Market Timing – invited two other symposia participants and myself to dinner at a well-known French restaurant. We split a fine bottle of wine. We had dessert, and then left to take me back to my apartment. As we drove along the main thoroughfare, the traffic was diverted to the right of the road. We were in a queue. Irma, the driver, said this diversion was for drivers to be given a breath-alyzer test for alcohol. This is what they do at this hour on Saturday night in Amsterdam. It is an “agreement” between the people and the police. No one wants people driving who are drunk and may be a threat to the safety of others. After a few minutes, it was time for Irma to take the breath-alyzer. I was nervous, because I know what happens in the USA if you are pulled over and found to have a blood alcohol limit that is ”too high.” But Irma passed the test just fine.

“What would have happened if you had failed, Irma?” I asked.

“They would have pulled me over and asked me to step out of the car and go eat or walk, or do something, and then come back and take it again until I was under the limit for safety.”

I am thinking. “This isn’t real.” But it was and it is. In Amsterdam, the focus is on prevention of problems via cooperation between the people and its government to provide safety for its people. It is a quite different relationship here in the USA.

Why and how have we become so disconnected from our government, or vice-versa? Why is it that the rest of the world is living our dream, the dream of our founding fathers for a cooperation between the government and the people who elect it to serve? Are we losing touch with this aspect of our national character? Is it true that we are not in a state of decline from these founding principles, as President Obama stated? Can we ever get it back? Answer me that!"

Because America is a racket

Because America is a racket and likes to punish people. For a nation that's so obsessed with Jesus, they sure as hell don't know anything about tolerance and forgiveness!

Why should the city pay?

That doesn't change anything. The city doesn't make money. That's your money. The officer must be sued personally and lose everything he owns. As a side note, accept jury duty every chance you get. Vote "not guilty" when someone's been accused of violating an unconstitutional statute like possessing pot or not paying taxes. Educate other jurors about jury nullification. Just sayin'.

Why not?

The argument that the payments are "taxpayers' money" is bogus. Once the police department gets the money, no taxpayer is ever going to get it back - unless said taxpayer sues for it and wins! Sue the police departments. Starve the beasts.

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"Fully half the quotations found on the internet are either mis-attributed, or outright fabrications." - Abraham Lincoln

If the taxpayers are going to

If the taxpayers are going to arm and hire police, then the taxpayers can assume the liability when they screw up.

You can thank police unions

You can thank police unions for this. They NEVER get fired......ever.

You people have ten times as

You people have ten times as many cops as you actually need. Americans are world renowned as a bunch of whining badge sniffers who want a big bad cop to go and wipe every sniffling wittle nose.