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California Plan to Win

Just some thoughts...

I don't understand the campaigns decision to place the California HQ in Venice Beach. Orange County is (and has always been) the Republican stronghold. If the campaign wanted to sway demorcrats, they'd be better off by far placing the HQ in the heart of Los Angeles, effectively near the most people.

With California (170+ delegates) television ads from the campaign and SuperPACS are thus far nowhere to be found. Do you guys think we can hold somesort of moneybomb to air a few spots? Trust me, California needs it!! For those of you that think things are going good here, they're not! California will go the same way as New York if we don't do something about it! Also, most people don't think about it, but they're a lot of mormons here, and at a 95% vote rate for Romney, our odds look even worse that one might think.

We need A LOT of help here guys, campaign SuperPACS and grassroots! If we lose California, we're in trouble. Delegates are won by congressional district. We can win our share of the 170+ if we come together and kick-ass!!

P.S. Don't be fooled by the record crowds you saw when Dr.Paul spoke. It's a record population state. It's amazing to see UCLA packed out, but we're going to need much, much more to pull of a victory here, trust!

Any thoughts guys ?

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I am a registered Democrat in Los Angeles, and just printed out a new voter registration form to change my political party to Republican.

I spent a thousand dollars so I could attend a fundraising dinner for Ron Paul at the Ayres Hotel off the 405 and Rosecrans tomorrow night, May 1, 2012.

I see comments recommending to just focus on the many Mormons that live here, and I have to agree. Some of my aquaintances give me a funny look and ask "Ron Paul is still running?".

My point is the word on the street is Ron Paul doesn't even exist.

I have to agree that it looks all uphill to win California in the Primary. The media black-out has worked very well here, sad to say.

I am looking forward to shaking Ron Paul's hand tomorrow, and more importantly learning what I can do to help more.

Keep your chin up everyone, nose to the grindstone!

I started a thread a while back

to address some of this:


Please have a look at that for some thoughts on which California Congressional
Districts might be the best prospects for Dr. Paul. And definitely check the
extensive advice by John P. Slevin about how to work the target districts
effectively with a grassroots effort.

Note that California's delegates are awarded on a winner-take-all basis
*by Congressional District*.

I looked at what RP's best districts were last time and also analyzed the
2008 results to see which districts had the most "bang for the buck" in the
sense that some districts require a much smaller number of absolute votes
to move the percentages than others.

Basically, in districts where there are few Republican voters at all, as little as
slightly over 100 votes can equal 1% of the total vote for the CD, whereas where
the number of Republicans is much greater 1% might equal 600-700 votes.

Nearly all the districts that are where the overall Republican totals are small
are, not surprisingly, mostly heavily Democratic liberal districts. The small number
of Republicans in those districts makes it relatively easier to contact them
directly. Also, those areas tend to have numbers of strongly anti-drug war/anti-war
in general/pro-civil liberties folks who are not currently registered Republican
but could be persuaded to switch if they were approached right...

Big media buys will hopefully be forthcoming (personally I like RevPAC's commercials
more than what I've seen from the official campaign, though). But in any case,
there are CD's out there where grassroots efforts could win it for Dr. Paul.
But the most winnable ones may be the *least* Republican ones..

Here are that facts about delegates in California

California is a Winner-Take-All *per* congressional district and a closed presidential primary or should i say an open primary for everything on every level of voting *except* when it comes to the presidency.

California has 172 delegates on the line, 53 congressional districts, each district gets 3 delegates (3x53=159), 10 at-large delegates going to the overall winner of the state, and 3 delegates (technically unbound) go to top Republican members; the National Committeeman, the National Committeewoman, and the chairman of the California's Republican Party.

Win a District and get those 3 delegates period. Delegates are picked by the campaign of the district winner, RP himself could pick them personally i suppose if he wanted. No county convention, no state convention, only the RNC (no practice *sad face*). Who the delegates are bound to for 2 rounds of votes at the RNC is purely based on popular vote of each district.

Source: http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P12/CA-R

Listen up RP supporters who are Independents and Democrats, register to vote as Republican by *MAY 21st* (we say 14th in case of mistakes or corruption) and vote for RP on June 5th. IF YOU DON'T you are hurting the revolution.

All we have to do is win the Republican nomination. If we succeed in that then winning the presidency will be easy as the most effective tool, even though it is a lie, the MSM has against RP is there claim of RP being unelectable. Win the nomination and the Presidency will follow shortly with, i predict, a 70% landslide at minimum. RP already won the presidency by Nov. last year... That's why *they* had to steal it.

Interesting article on California says Paul at 24%!


And I saw a comment there that said CA delegates were proportional not winner-take-all. Can anyone in Cali verify?

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What: Rally with Ron Paul at Cal State Fullerton*
Where: ECS Lawn
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When: Wednesday, May 2nd at 7:00 PM
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WTF is the DELEGATE STRATEGY for CA?? Information DEFICIT!!

My question is, can anyone point me to a link with a comprehensive delegate strategy for California?? I'm in the Bay Area and I don't know how I can help in the delegate arena like I see unfolding in other states. I don't even know how it works here, though I understand the process is a little less participatory here.

Dr Paul simply won't win the straw vote here. Not by a long shot. California Repubs are among the stupidest in the country. You've basically got Democrat loyalist ignoramuses, and bomb-all-non-Americans Republicans.

Can anyone give me a link on DELEGATE STRATEGY?

CA deadline register Republican May 15. CLOSED PRIMARY JUN

Look, at this time, our posts should have straight-forward info one HOW TO VOTE FOR RON PAUL.


This is a good source for all states:

Blue Republicans

How to vote for Ron Paul in your state:

Twit and trumpet about it today. Texas deadline is tomorrow, as well Oregon's.

Ron Paul ... forever.

I agree... Moreover I was

I agree... Moreover I was questioning the Campaign/PACS/Grassroots path to victory..

My County Clerk said May 26TH

As long as the voter did not return a ballot, the voter can register Republican up to May 26TH and vote on June 5Th.

What's blueRepublican? Heart is on the Democratic Party? Won't join an RCC and become a delegate for Ron Paul, help out other Ron paul Republicans? Why not Ron Paul Republican? What's so blue" about being a Ron Paul Republican? Blue as in "Gee I really would rather be a Democrat?",

CA GOP won't allow "no party preference" presidential voters

I am looking into changing my political party so I may vote in the presidential primary here in California if Dr. Paul wins the nomination.

At this point it is my understanding registering as a "NPP"
or "no party preference" will not allow me to place a vote on the Republican ballot. (http://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/npp.htm) and my concern is that if Dr. Paul doesn't get the nomination, will I be locked into having to place my primary presidential vote on the Republican ticket?

I believe there is a May 23rd deadline before the primary to state you party preference but I am not positive. Can anyone clarify this situation for me?


Actually its May 21

and there is a thread for this info


Here's what you need to know when voting in the 2012 CALIFORNIA Republican Primary for Ron Paul:

NOTES: CALIFORNIA is an CLOSED Primary with Winner-take-all delegate allocation. (159 congressional district, 10 at-large, 3 Republican National Convention) Voters must be registered as Republican in order to vote for Ron Paul so it is critical to get supporters registered as Republican. Bring a bunch of applications with you to people's homes if necessary.

"Great Men Do Not Seek Power, They Have Great Power Thrust Upon Them"


You won't get cooties by registering repub. You can always switch back to whatever. Just cover your bases and make sure you are eligible to vote for Ron in the primary.!
My good friend thought if she was registered repub she had to vote a straight repub ticket in the general. (but then she was the one that asked me a few weeks ago why Ron Paul didn't run on the repub ticket. That was after I got her to register repub to vote in the primary. Some people just don't listen?)

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Just develop a local strategy and work as hard as you can

Think about what your most effective way to turn voters to Ron Paul is. The campaign doesn't have the funds to compete in such a huge state, so it is up to the grassroots.

Tu ne cede malis.

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I agree with the OP. I live

I agree with the OP. I live in the heart of Los Angeles and there is virtually no presence here except the occasional bumper sticker and the speech at UCLA. We WILL lose CA without a shadow of a doubt if we don't step it up big time. We need tv ads, billboards, brochures and campaign materials being mailed out, signs, and to start appealing to influential groups. For instance, there is a medical community, many of which are Republicans that do have an impact and connection to the politics and are against Obamacare, I think Ron should make a point to reach out to them at Cedars Sinai, UCLA, UCSD, Stanford, and CPMC. Being a fellow Dr., I think Ron Paul needs to use that relationship to his advantage and reach out to his fellow doctors. Also, do not underestimate the Morman vote here.. It does exist. WITHOUT California and Texas, we have no chance so we really need these.

CA specific brochure

We need a brochure which highlights recent delegate wins and urges voting for Ron Paul as only way to defeat war industry (Romney and Obama )

"Know what you know, know what you don't know, and understand and appreciate the distinction."


Strategy and tactics...

depend on the rules. I can't even find the voting rules online so I suspect most voters won't participate. And you have 5 weeks to sway the voters.

The grassroots is doing its thing everywhere across the country. Its a given. Can California do anything different? And for what purpose?

I suggest a rally. The bigger the better and don't invite Ron Paul on ANY official campaign folks. 100% grassroots. It should be an Anti-war rally. The idea is to draw a simple line; a vote for Obama or Romney means perpetual war. Option #1 is Ron Paul. The strategy is to get on the news...a HUGE splash...free publicity.

Official campaign? Who knows what they are doing. I say forget 'em. The most you will get out them is crappy ads that probably turn off more voters than they turn on.

Good luck!


Wait a Minute, I Hear You, H-Daddy,

...BUT, the grassroots is NOT a given and portraying it that way is not going to prompt ppl to get up and help walk districts. I am exhausted here is SD. I know what it takes to go to the door of every registered voter in a precinct, I've done it, am doing it and WE NEED MORE HELP...NOW. We could beat Romney and hand RP the 3 delegates for our district if we had the boots on the ground doing the boring and vitally important work of walking door to door and handing out literature. It's the only way we can fight the media black out. It's really that simple. You don't even need to ring the door bell if you're shy, just get the info to the ppl.

It is EASY, we will teach you and set you up with everything you need, we just need more of YOU!

With more help we can win, please, please, please join us!


If my need to be RIGHT is greater than my desire for TRUTH, then I will not recognize it when it arrives ~ Libertybelle

Sorry. I didn't mean

to imply that more help isn't needed. It is always needed. And, MANY thanks to you for your colossal efforts on behalf of Dr. Paul and the rEVOLution. I encourage anyone in California to help you.

But it is a given that there are folks like you all over the country. What isn't a given, sadly, is that the official campaign will support your efforts.


It would help if you used a LIST OF SENIOR CITIZENS WHO VOTE!

This can be gotten cheap from WWW.USADATA.com Remember to go after the senior citizens because THESE PEOPLE VOTE---you will get the most BANG FOR YOUR BUCK.

You can buy LISTS OF SENIOR CITIZENS (for example) one mile from a given address. This is called a "walking list". In buying the list you

l. age of senior citizens you want to target
2. how far away you want them from a starting address (for example YOUR HOME so you just have to walk 1-2 miles from your home)
3. Income level (if you want), homeowner if you want or not whatever

I have used their lists. You can also buy the lists with phone numbers in excel and put the list in something like CALLFIRE.com and bang out
500 calls a day.


Thank you!

Thank you!

If my need to be RIGHT is greater than my desire for TRUTH, then I will not recognize it when it arrives ~ Libertybelle

CA is a closed primary, it wont help to try to get democrats

attracting republicans is the smart way to do it. I don't know when its too late for people to switch parties but its probably coming up really soon. That's my one fear about those big rallies in CA, what if they were all democrats that couldn't even vote for Paul.?

I Beg to Differ!

I have personally convinced and registered many, many dems for Ron Paul by going door to door. There is still time as May 22 is the deadline.

If my need to be RIGHT is greater than my desire for TRUTH, then I will not recognize it when it arrives ~ Libertybelle

I imagine the campaign itself

I imagine the campaign itself is also looking at California and scratching their heads about what the best way to approach such a huge, heavily-populated state with limited resources. It's undoubtedly gonna take a lot of money to get the word out and soon... I suggest a "The Big 2 Moneybomb" for Cali and Texas (or is it too late for TX?). I'd be willing to donate to something like this and I'm sure many others would as well, even if its only comes to another mil.


California NEEDS a Money Bomb ASAP!

We can NOT afford to lose California! Do not let the ball drop on this!

I am not from that state but I will contribute whatever I can. Get it done!

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Do you think there would be enough

participation to do some billboards, paid for by grassroots money? Maybe some outdoor media companies would be supportive to Paul and give some good deals.

TV and radio spots

Do you think those would be more effective and reach more people?

There are many ways

In absence of a money bomb try to get a meetup together (meet at a restaraunt, home, wherever) and put a jar out asking for donations.

You can rent billboard space pretty cheap, it would be only until primary is over.

Some small and medium businesses support Ron Paul, ask for donations.

One main key is getting as many people as possible to work the polls handing out delegate slips. This is more important than anything else that you can do.

Best of luck! Go Ron Paul!

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