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Big Brother: Police Seize Cameras at public forum featuring congressman

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this is from August of 2011!

this is from August of 2011!

To Jason

who paraphrased JFK ..A government that makes peaceful protest impossible makes violent protest inevitable...

So we have hundreds of tanks moved north from CO, across Tx, UN troops in the US, Russian paratroopers "practicing" at Denver airport, A billion rounds of ammunition ordered by gov, tons of MRE's ordered, fema camps all over the country, NDAA, prob CISPA, plus what I've not listed.

Do you suppose if peaceful doesn't work and violence becomes inevitable...depopulation?

Peaceful had better work....Thank God for Ron Paul. I believe he said "an idea whose time has come cannot be stopped". Lord keep him safe and healthy.

As for we the people...keep gathering steam and bring the freedom train home.

Remember

They'll say all those tanks, troops, ammo and supplies are for public safety. The fact is, they're for the self-preservation of government - even at the expense of the safety of certain members of the public.

Even if there is violent protest, the safety of no private citizen is at stake - only of public officials who have their hands around our throats. Those are the ones who deserve to feel unsafe.

Question

Considering this involved a public building, a public official at a public event, and nothing trumps the 1st Amendment. If someone claims a law does trump the 1st then the onus is on him/her to prove it AFTER the fact in court, ensuring that the 1st is upheld at that point and time, as it should...

What ever happened to Citizen Arrest? Couldn't a bystander who sees what happens approach the officer and tell him that he is now under Citizens Arrest?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizen's_arrest

What about Constables?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constable

We need to cover ourselves since "msm" and "law enforcement" will not any more. This country is STILL ruled by Constitutional Law so it is up to us to preserve it - not wait until they shred it and then address it after the fact.

Are there any experts who can chime in?

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

"What ever happened to

"What ever happened to Citizen Arrest? Couldn't a bystander who sees what happens approach the officer and tell him that he is now under Citizens Arrest?"

I keep up with police issues pretty closely and I belive that if you tried that, no matter if you were within some mythological on paper "rights" or not, you would probably not survive that encounter and if you did your health would never be the same. You'd probably be killed to be honest. Police know this even if a lot of people still think we live under rule of law.

Possible Charges

In criminal law, kidnapping is the taking away or transportation of a person against that person's will, usually to hold the person in false imprisonment, a confinement without legal authority. This may be done for ransom or in furtherance of another crime, or in connection with a child custody dispute.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kidnapping

Abduction means the crime of taking away of a person by persuasion, by fraud, or by open force or violence. Originally abduction applied only to such taking away of women and children, but now in most states also apply it to an adult male. Abduction is distinguished from kidnapping, which requires an element of force or threat of force.

http://definitions.uslegal.com/a/abduction/

This is about upholding

This is about upholding Constitutional Law, and violation of one persons attempt to restrict those rights from another person.

If we can not uphold the Constitution, then what is the point in even having a Constitution? It seems to me that that is the precise angle the PTB and neocon/dems are using to abolish it.

In a room filled with patriots, if one person stands up against tyrrany I would certainly hope that others would back him/her. Much like at a ball game where arrests are seldomly made for fear of spectator riot (sometimes they are made, but not usually).

Furthermore, nobody mentioned abduction. This pertains to an officer breaking the law of the land and a citizens arrest made. Maybe this would simply encourage the officer to simply BACK OFF.

Lastly, law enforcement loves to spout "there is no excuse for not knowing the law" and we all are required to abide by them. Law enforcement personel is NO different - there is no excuse for them to not know our law of the land. If we do not enforce this, then there is no hope or defense.

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

authoritarian statist tyrant

do you realize what the founders did with evil tyrants like this. it did not involve a judge or jury. the founders would be ashamed of us for what we're putting up with.

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I'm not sure I agree

As the video points out, there are at least two television cameras on site. Are the TV stations co-conspirators in this, to make sure the truth never leaves the gymnasium?

The cops asserted that it was to "protect the constituents," presumably the constituents' privacy? Is that not a legitimate aim?

Take back the GOP and Restore America Now.

If they are so worried about their identity and safety

If certain individual Constituents are so worried about their identity and safety at a plublic hearing, in a public place, paid for by other taxpayers besides just themseleves, then they can stay at home. No one forced them to come there. They have every right to be there, but no one is forcing them to come if they don't want to.

Police are to Serve and to Protect. Not to harass and confiscate from people that are taking an action this not causing any harm to others.

I have every right to drive on roads that I help pay for, but I am not forced to drive on them. If I am so afraid of other taxpaying drivers, then I'll stay at home.

"If we lose freedom here there's no place to escape to. This is the last stand on earth." -Ronald Reagan

When they took us off the Gold Standard they took away our money... in order to make it theirs. -OneTinSoldier

The reason

"The Press" is allowed to record is that they control, they ARE The Press. They will release what they want and dispose of lies and inconsistencies down the Memory Hole. This is why they fear the Internet and want to control THAT. People are seeing their lies as past videos are compared with new ones.
And no, constitutents who speak up in these townhalls, or any public hearing have no right to deprive another of free speech or the right to record because they might not want to be seen/heard. THEY are the ones who need to stay away. When did THEIR rights start superceding everyone elses?? And who decided that?
TRANSPARENCY and TRUTH are more important. The Press doesn't give a rats about jamming their intrusive cameras in other peoples (little peoples) faces all the time. Where are the cops and their great concern THEN?? These cops are the THUGS, the Praetorian Guard of the political class. They do NOT protect the average person.

Start buying spyglasses, pen cameras and such.

It's that or slap the cop silly for breaking the law.

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Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution, inevitable.

Someday someone will do just that

Beat the livin bejeezus out of a cop who is outta control. Won't be me and I don't condone it but as JFK (paraphrased) said:

A government that makes peaceful protest impossible makes violent protest inevitable.

Not everybody has the fortitude of MK Gandhi.

Thanx,

Jason

You can't get clean in a dirty bathtub.

They know they're breaking

They know they're breaking the law, so they'll simply drop the charges at a later date. Temporary net benefit: Politicians who do not want to be held accountable for their actions.

Sadly, you're right about the cameras. They fight for our freedom you know. Our freedom to have to resort to purchasing small cameras to hold public officials accountable. Otherwise we're thrown in cages for doing something well within our rights and duties.

Like this?

http://tinypic.com/r/6hq7pw/6

I'm not sure how well that would work. What do you think?

(That was humor BTW)

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Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution, inevitable.

Carry Statutes and Court Decisions

Know your rights, and citations, and show them to the officer: they respect such things, too.

What do you think? http://consequeries.com/

Obviously they don't.

My bet is, he knew what the law was but didn't give a shit.

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Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution, inevitable.

He was

a toadying goon of the political class, the kind who stomps people at the whim of some slimy crat or pol....a "hero".

unbelievable - the cop says "that's what I've been told"

I suppose I can tell a cop that something is illegal and he then has a duty to arrest the person doing whatever I say is illegal? I hope they filed a complaint!

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know Peace." - Jimi Hendrix

"To protect and

"To protect and serve..."

They have no legal responsibility to protect civilians, so who exactly are they protecting and serving?

Themselves and the ruling

Themselves and the ruling class.

You actually make a very

You actually make a very interesting point. Cops almost always serve the establishment, whether it's the store that calls the cops on someone or the politician giving the speech. Cops see themselves as protectors of the power structure rather than on the side of the people. Law doesn't really matter in America anymore.

personally

i don't think they make that distinction.

"The two weakest arguments for any issue on the House floor are moral and constitutional"
Ron Paul

I don't either, I think it's

I don't either, I think it's the default setting for most of them. The people are always the potential enemy. That's why Oathkeepers can't even be mentioned around some police departments.

I think you are correct about this.

It's not an overt decision made at the point of the contact.

It is an ingrained subconscious pillar in the psyche of police, like a "default setting" which you mention.
Their minds are not their own. They are fully owned and operated by another, like robots.