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Krugman Loses Debate with Ron Paul, then Dismisses the Debate Forum and Ron Paul

Ron Paul seemed to have got the better of Krugman in their recent televised debate.

Krugman's response?:

Face to face debates are useless! He belittled Ron Paul's arguments as "Gah Gah Goo Goo"

http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/05/01/on-the-uselessne...



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Susie 4 Liberty's picture

Dr. Paul's comment about inflation...

"Inflation is THEFT!" Had heard that before from him, but for some reason, this REALLY hit me hard today! As hard as I've worked and as frugal as I am and the few "things" that I buy that are not absolutely necessary... And I see what I've saved dwindling away?!

Kept an article from years and years ago entitled "What's the Use of Being Prudent?" And it had to do, even then, with the Govt's over-reach into 'saving us'...

And so, the question remains: WHAT'S THE USE OF BEING PRUDENT?

Susie 4 Liberty

I look

back on all the times I said "no" to things I wanted in order to "save" my little pennies--even as a kid. Even when I retired with all those little pennies, the banks raided the retirement accounts and many of us "prudents" lost all the hard earned pennies.

I don't know how this young generation is going to survive. College debt, housing debt, credit card debt, and more and more debt.

mickey45

Ron did great

but he either fibbed or made a mistake when he said the Byzantine empire never fought a war because of the gold standard. That's factually incorrect. The empire was embroiled in bloody conflict throughout its existence.

Yes you can tell Krugman got to him a bit.

And some of RP's responses like "FED is a fraud" is hard to follow up on.

He should prob hammer Krugman more on stuff Krugman didn't know like "I didn't know you can go to jail if you used silver dollars" and expose krugman for an ivory tower kook. Or press Krugman on the "I like free markets but not all the time" and get Krugman to defend the bailouts.

But his position that inflation is theft was well espoused.

Susie 4 Liberty's picture

I understood him to say

their bloody conflicts were what brought them down...?

Susie 4 Liberty

I'm sitting here looking at the 'data' and..

his downplaying of the debate because of not being able to present data is a joke.
i am sitting here at my coin shop in oklahoma, looking at my case full of 'data'.

this is hard government data published in or before 1964, in the forms of dimes, quarters, dollars, etc.

..and well, as of today, ron paul's argument is winning by a margin of about 24.5 to 1

$.30 bought a gallon of gas in 1964

a 1964 90% silver US quarter is now worth about $5.50
"debase the currency-goo goo gah gah"-there is makes sense even to a baby!

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You are correct

Even a child can understand...I did this demonstration to a kid and they got it right away.

http://www.dailypaul.com/227195/inflation-demonstration

What does that say about Krueger?

I'm not sure if the correct defense would be to say debates are useless.

Really, what does is say about a person who willfully participates in something that he himself acknowledges as useless?

"I think debates are useless. I participate in debates. I think things are useless and yet I do them anyways."

And we should listen to your advice on the economy why?

"So why did I do it? Because I’m trying to publicize my book, which does have lots of data and facts — but those data and facts don’t matter unless I get enough people to read it."

Ahh that's better.

"I jump on TV to sell my book, but I do it under the guise of a debate. I say I'm doing one thing, but really I'm doing it for a completely different reason. BTW you should trust me when I tell you things."

LOL re your comments about Paul "Krueger"

Yes the argument goes, Debates are only good if I get to speak and everyone gets to listen. And only if the listeners are my supporters.

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Austrian Economist Robert Murphy has issued a debate challeng

Austrian Economist Robert Murphy has issued a debate challenge to Krugman.

Krugman is only comfortable in a one sided conversation where no one challenges his brilliance

http://www.krugmandebate.com/

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You would think a real "intellect" would pen a rejoinder

You wouldthink a real "intellect" would pen a rejoinder or make follow up points that were not made during the debate
You wouldn't expect the out of hand dismissing of the debate itself.
I think he was pwned and knows it

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Peter Schiff must be jealous!

Peter Schiff has been hankering for a debate with Krugman-Krugman refuses to acknowledge the invitation to debate
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rG9OLL_iRPc

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I've been dying to see a debate...

between Peter Schiff and Paul Krugman!

stopped reading after

"I don’t think my supporters are quite the same, "

KRUGMAN has supporters ? show them to me , certainly not a schiff or celente or Fabre. probably a corzine

"He's this eccentric Ghandi-Like figure that you cant touch with the normal bribes that people respond to."
the man Doug Wead on DR. RON PAUL

Krugpot has supporters.

One of my professors from college loves him and posts a Krugman article every two weeks or so. I have gotten into some marathon economic debates with him and a few other uber liberal professors.

I have tried my best but they will not budge on socialized medicine (or they call it universal health care which is a misnomer) or proactive federal government involvement in property rights (which they of course call "protecting the environment.")

Bastiat has the most magnificent explanation of all time: "Socialism, like the ancient ideas from which it springs, confused the difference between government and society. As a result of this, every time we object to a thing being done by government, the socialists conclude we object to it being done at all."

Ask your professors

is 2% inflation really "OK" when food and healthcare and college tuition is up 12% p.a. when flat screen tv, smartphones, pc are down 10%. If you had one leg in boiling water and another in ice, "on average" are you really "OK".

Krugman doesnt like debates for one reason

he will lose against anyone who really understands economics!

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Krugman actually has a following

you can read his drivel in the NY Times Column-conscious of a liberal

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Krugman should listen to Einstein-If you can't explain it simply

If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough.
Albert Einstein

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I guess Krugman thought Einstein said

I guess Krugman thought Einstein said

If you can't explain it simply so a baby can understand it, you don't understand it well enough.

That would explain his GOO GOO GAH GAH comment in appealing to readers of his "column"

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Intellectual arrogance is not too smart

and has no place in a real debate

Either the strength of your arguments are clear or they are not.

Being misunderstood does'nt mean you are smarter

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its actually intellectual immaturity

to complain about the debate after the fact
For those that saw it-he didn't come back after the break

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How old is Krugman?

For him to "realize" (after he loses a debate) that his brilliance doesn't come through in a debate and that its a useless forum, doesnt sound like a very evolved or intelligent soul.
I suppose he just wants us to be impressed with his Nobel prize

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The GOO GOO GAH GAH charactization

of Ron Paul's arguments by Krugman is a dead give away of an immature intellect!

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Next Krugman will be saying that books have no meaning

if people who write them disagree with him

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Krugman is implying

he is too smart as are his followers to listen to anything so compelling as sound money and no counterfeiting

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