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(Update iii: Here's the proof of abstaining) Doug Wead Joins Stossel In Predicting Something Big Next Week!

Here's a piece of what DW had to say.

Next Wednesday, May 9, 2012, will be an important day. I will be online that night at 9PM to talk with anyone who wants to join the discussion. Here is the link.

http://www.facebook.com/DougWeadOfficial

read the full blog: http://dougwead.wordpress.com/2012/05/04/ron-paul-how-many-d...

This combined with John Stossel TWICE this week saying Ron Paul was going to take off next week. Does this mean something big we don't know about yet or am I missing something? Reading too much into nothing? theories?

Edit:
DP post about jptv with link to video: http://www.dailypaul.com/230123/jon-stossel-on-pjtv-talking-...

DP post about hannity interview: http://www.dailypaul.com/230089/john-stossel-tells-hannity-r...

New REALITY CHECK, this could be it
http://www.fox19.com/story/18133202/reality-check-rnc-breaki...

UPDATE II: !!CHECK OUT THIS ADMISSION!! MSNBC CONFIRMS THE ABILITY TO ABSTAIN!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=flQ...

UPDATE III:
First, here is a 2008 article talking about the ability to abstain
http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2008/sep/07/paul-backers-giv...

Second, here is the rule about nomination: Rule 40(d)
(d) When at the close of a roll call any
candidate for nomination for President of the United
States or Vice President of the United States has
received a majority of the votes entitled to be cast in the
convention, the chairman of the convention shall
declare that the candidate has been nominated. [emphasis mine]
http://www.gop.com/images/legal/2008_RULES_Adopted.pdf

Thirdly, here is RRO rules on abstaining
Do abstention votes count?

Answer:
The phrase “abstention votes” is an oxymoron, an abstention being a refusal to vote. To abstain means to refrain from voting, and, as a consequence, there can be no such thing as an “abstention vote.”

In the usual situation, where either a majority vote or a two-thirds vote is required, abstentions have absolutely no effect on the outcome of the vote since what is required is either a majority or two thirds of the votes cast. On the other hand, if the vote required is a majority or two thirds of the members present, or a majority or two thirds of the entire membership, an abstention will have the same effect as a “no” vote. Even in such a case, however, an abstention is not a vote and is not counted as a vote. [RONR (11th ed.), p. 400, ll. 7-12; p. 401, ll. 8-11; p. 403, ll. 13-24; see also p. 66 of RONRIB.
http://www.robertsrules.com/faq.html#6
This means that every abstain is one FULL vote removed from Romney he MUST have 1154 votes to get nomination. [edit to fix #required]

Fourth, here is the preamble of the The Rules of the Republican Party stating that the current rules are in effect until the convention
BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, That the
following be and hereby are adopted as The Rules of
the Republican Party
, composed of the rules for the
election and government of the Republican National
Committee until the next national convention, the
rules under which delegates and alternate delegates
shall be allotted to the respective states in the next
national convention, and the rules under which such
delegates and alternate delegates shall be elected and
under which contests shall be considered, and the rules
of business of this national convention.
http://www.gop.com/images/legal/2008_RULES_Adopted.pdf

It gets a BIT more confusing when it comes down to the Rules committee and what they can do, but there will be months to finish that research(too tired right now to work it out) as those things can't happen until the delegates are all chosen. :) Please everyone keep this post on the top via comments all day so that people will have a chance to view this information, i've been up all night doing this and need sleep... 2 finals tomorrow :) good day all!



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Maybe we will take out a REAL ATTACK AD

...campaign against Romney and BRING HIM DOWN.

It's low hanging fruit. The guy is more vulnerable than a straw house below a bursting dam.

WHAT ARE WE WAITING FOR!!!!

"Truth is an absolute defense to the charge of paranoia."

well you know RP, 'attack'

well you know RP, 'attack' adds aren't his style, but its been my understanding they he is running ads in states that have yet to vote, such as texas.

secondly, we simply might not need it, and the money should continue to be focused toward the delegate strategy, because there is no rule against abstaining and rules cannot be changed before the convention and the delegates are represented in any attempt to change the rules at the convention.. so if we get enough RP people sitting in Romney's 'bound' delegate slots, we can deny his nomination.

It was his style when he took

It was his style when he took down both Newt & Santorum with attack ads. (& directly calling Santorum 'A Fake' in debate, Newt 'A Chickenhawk' in debate).

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Puff stuff....

...I'm talking about REAL exposures of this creep.

"Truth is an absolute defense to the charge of paranoia."

First is very good,

First is very good, hadn't seen it before because looks like was only run on local radio stations in Iowa etc. Question is, why isn't it being run on local Texas radio stations?

As for others, had seen them before but don't SINGLE out Romney the way ads singling out Newt or Santorum were run.

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first never needed to single

first never needed to single him out, other candidates did that and his short-comings were fairly well known. There are other SPAC adds which do directly target Romney if those are acceptable to you.
The etch-a-sketch add is specifically about something Romney said, even tho he isn't pictured in the add, the others are pictured only because they are attacking Romney when they are speaking.

Secondly Ron Paul has repeatedly explained why he hasn't gone directly after Romney. It boils down to a cost-benefit analysis, and truthfully now i see NO real benefit to negative attack ads as it will give FOXNEWS a way to label him as divisive and all sorts of crap at this stage, i firmly believe that the money should be devoted mostly to the delegate strategy as that is our only REAL chance at victory and that means being organized locally and using money to keep people informed at that level

NO real benefit to negative attack ads

no because its just not necessary and if Ron Paul had alienated rommie already he would have less Aces in his vest to deal with later

see how WEAK sanity and newtie BOTH are now for having been so
nasty in the public view!

AND the bammaO team will do much worse negative ads that the Paul campaign can do and we get to point to them doing that, lol

life gets sweeter.

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Very, very good point.

Why the special treatment for the Mormon Messiah?

"Truth is an absolute defense to the charge of paranoia."

30 min ad buy

I'm speculating after fundraising trip to LA, Stossel having knowledge, Taleb involvement, Benton admitting hoarding money, Weed specifying time. We're looking at announcement of prime time network ad buy with Hollywood type endorsements, economist endorsements, rally photos and explanation of RP stance on issues.

i like the sound of that,

i like the sound of that, SOOO so much is happening right now my head is spinning, the news is getting better everyday :) WE REALLY CAN WIN THIS THING! i admit i've had doubts for a long time, but the pieces are beginning to fall into place, most important is the ability to abstain which MSNBC was kind enough to confirm in my latest update video, if that in fact is true, and i have not seen anything that says it is not true, then we can deny Romney the nomination

THAT WOULD BE A KILLER

THAT WOULD BE A KILLER DEAL!!!

Would blow out ALL of CNN, Fox, MSNBC & the rest into irrelevance (beyond what they already have)!

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Hey guys check out this

Hey guys check out this INSTANT CLASSIC Ben Swann response to a great question!!! its hilarious, btw watch the whole vid, GREAT interview
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=jNi...

I am excited. :)

I really am. I hope it is something great. No deals though, unless it involves Romney stepping down from his candidacy and letting Paul take over. Other wise no VP deals, no deals for any positions. I will not vote for a Romney Paul ticket, EVER. I will write his name in. No deals to shape the GOP agenda, they will be ignored. I take it Mr. Wead knows what the goal is, what is at stake. I would not give in for a second. Romney has proven he is a walking loser pile of fail and he should just go away.

you might not have too!!!

you might not have too!!! check out the newest update for the best news of 2012!

What? Can you be specific?

What? Can you be specific?

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lol scroll up and click the

lol scroll up and click the video buddy, its right next to "UPDATE II"

Yes, I had seen that earlier,

Yes, I had seen that earlier, thx!

BTW, I watched a different interview with Ben Swann in which he said he's expecting RNC to gather behind closed doors & pull a dirty trick of ABOLISHING Rule 38:

http://youtu.be/jNippJCbQqQ

I wouldn't be shocked if they stooped that low after Reince Priebus scandal. What's our recourse then?

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thats what this newest update

thats what this newest update covers, the reporter said that those bound to Romney can choose NOT to vote, so bound or not they can abstain, denying Romney the nomination!!

Aha, but....and I'm thinking

Aha, but....and I'm thinking aloud here....What if they gather behind closed doors & stipulate a new rule which states "bound means CANNOT abstain & HAVE to vote"? I mean, these people are capable of changing rules in the middle of the game & have no shame whatsoever.

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doing my best to confirm this

doing my best to confirm this right now, but it would SEEM that RNC rules can ONLY be changed at a RNConvention!! here is a link to the rules, i would point you to the last paragraph of the preamble, but i am trying to read the 50 pages to see if there's anything that goes against that statement :)

http://www.gop.com/images/legal/2008_RULES_Adopted.pdf

That sounds very good, thx.

That sounds very good, thx.

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I hope I can sleep!

No, joke, this fight for liberty has me so excited I can't sleep at night, but I spring out of bed excited every morning:-)
The video TMOT has on the front page mentions the campaign is "switching gears" maybe a hint, also mentioned we may even have MORE delegates than Romney! Wouldn't that be a hoot?

Everything is coming together

Something BIG is going to happen. I can't even comprehend!!!

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I hope

Dr. Paul calls out the RNC for violation of rule #11 and demands the states who participated, the RNC, and the Robney clan Pay!

a member of the executive

a member of the executive committee(the highest authority within the RNC) has called for his resignation!

(the highest authority within the RNC)

maaaybe today it will be announced that he has been 'relieved' of his duties and position and orders that Ron Paul be treated as equal to any candidate ever has been and as rommnie is now.

just perhaps this was being discussed and worked out to save as much face as possible and its a done deal so now it will be handed out to all media today

THAT will make a load of media start reporting reality!

its getting tense waiting.

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TOMORROW GUYS!!!!

:D :D :D! Wondering what it could be!?!?!?!

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This is so exciting..

and to think,most "journalists" are willingly blind to the most amazing election in years! The age old fight between good and evil, right and wrong, war and peace.

most "journalists" are willingly blind

ya kno
that remark cliked one of those light bulbs over my head

in HISTORY there wont be any truthful articles in archives for people to look when Ron Paul has already served a couple of terms and the ONLY links where seekers can get truth they KNOW by then is on sites like this one.

what irony, delicious.

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