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(Update iii: Here's the proof of abstaining) Doug Wead Joins Stossel In Predicting Something Big Next Week!

Here's a piece of what DW had to say.

Next Wednesday, May 9, 2012, will be an important day. I will be online that night at 9PM to talk with anyone who wants to join the discussion. Here is the link.

http://www.facebook.com/DougWeadOfficial

read the full blog: http://dougwead.wordpress.com/2012/05/04/ron-paul-how-many-d...

This combined with John Stossel TWICE this week saying Ron Paul was going to take off next week. Does this mean something big we don't know about yet or am I missing something? Reading too much into nothing? theories?

Edit:
DP post about jptv with link to video: http://www.dailypaul.com/230123/jon-stossel-on-pjtv-talking-...

DP post about hannity interview: http://www.dailypaul.com/230089/john-stossel-tells-hannity-r...

New REALITY CHECK, this could be it
http://www.fox19.com/story/18133202/reality-check-rnc-breaki...

UPDATE II: !!CHECK OUT THIS ADMISSION!! MSNBC CONFIRMS THE ABILITY TO ABSTAIN!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=flQ...

UPDATE III:
First, here is a 2008 article talking about the ability to abstain
http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2008/sep/07/paul-backers-giv...

Second, here is the rule about nomination: Rule 40(d)
(d) When at the close of a roll call any
candidate for nomination for President of the United
States or Vice President of the United States has
received a majority of the votes entitled to be cast in the
convention, the chairman of the convention shall
declare that the candidate has been nominated. [emphasis mine]
http://www.gop.com/images/legal/2008_RULES_Adopted.pdf

Thirdly, here is RRO rules on abstaining
Do abstention votes count?

Answer:
The phrase “abstention votes” is an oxymoron, an abstention being a refusal to vote. To abstain means to refrain from voting, and, as a consequence, there can be no such thing as an “abstention vote.”

In the usual situation, where either a majority vote or a two-thirds vote is required, abstentions have absolutely no effect on the outcome of the vote since what is required is either a majority or two thirds of the votes cast. On the other hand, if the vote required is a majority or two thirds of the members present, or a majority or two thirds of the entire membership, an abstention will have the same effect as a “no” vote. Even in such a case, however, an abstention is not a vote and is not counted as a vote. [RONR (11th ed.), p. 400, ll. 7-12; p. 401, ll. 8-11; p. 403, ll. 13-24; see also p. 66 of RONRIB.
http://www.robertsrules.com/faq.html#6
This means that every abstain is one FULL vote removed from Romney he MUST have 1154 votes to get nomination. [edit to fix #required]

Fourth, here is the preamble of the The Rules of the Republican Party stating that the current rules are in effect until the convention
BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, That the
following be and hereby are adopted as The Rules of
the Republican Party
, composed of the rules for the
election and government of the Republican National
Committee until the next national convention, the
rules under which delegates and alternate delegates
shall be allotted to the respective states in the next
national convention, and the rules under which such
delegates and alternate delegates shall be elected and
under which contests shall be considered, and the rules
of business of this national convention.
http://www.gop.com/images/legal/2008_RULES_Adopted.pdf

It gets a BIT more confusing when it comes down to the Rules committee and what they can do, but there will be months to finish that research(too tired right now to work it out) as those things can't happen until the delegates are all chosen. :) Please everyone keep this post on the top via comments all day so that people will have a chance to view this information, i've been up all night doing this and need sleep... 2 finals tomorrow :) good day all!



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Odd

You would think they would like this kinda TV. Great for ratings, at least. But no worries for money, cuz they're gov't subsidized. :)

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I didn't hear anything

about the results of that fundraiser in LA on May 1st that
Nassim Taleb was promoting..

Maybe some big bucks and/or high profile endorsements
coming out of that?

That wouldn't hurt.

im thinking....

that the Austin tea party event on Sunday will be exciting- who knows just who will show up. hopefully, it will be a really headline grabbing event. i hope the campaign knows that it's now or never to get really hardcore about the challenges facing this country, and the interests stacked up against us. if this delegate strategy is to amount to much, we've got to get all in and raise the stakes, intellectually.

PS. The ads for Mittens Romney on the DP are really making me sick! (of course, weve seen plenty for Sanitorium and Swingrich as well)

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Romney ads on DP

Just click the ad for free sticker get yours, it costs mitt to send em out and will really drive him nuts if we all get one and no one sees any on cars anywhere :)

really drive him nuts

lol I like the way you think.

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im gonna get

Myself a few and mail them back as defective. The reason? They wrote Mitt Romney instead of Ron Paul on it. Will ask to pay shipping & handling fees.

LOL

LOL

One thing is certain

The news will be good!

" In Thee O Lord do I put my trust " ~ Psalm 31:1~

HOPE > HYPE

I hope that this isn't just hype.
3 big hitters in the fight for Freedom are saying 5/9 is going to be big.

It's pretty cool, I am excited!

Weade mentions this and next week..

in his post as developing
we shall watch
as the RNC does its thing we see how events unfold then we can ask well considered Qs of Doug Weade
his last paragraph says it:

"Whatever happens, the ball is now in the Mitt Romney court. If the Hawks continue to prevail and they keep playing dirty at the state conventions they will stop Ron Paul from being nominated and probably their own chances of winning a general election. They will also have a sizeable number of angry Ronulans on the floor of the RNC all with I-Phone cameras to record every ugly moment of disunity.

What to do? "

IMV he is waiting to see how the RNC plays this in the interim
and be ready to chat it up with those who ask whats up after this week and weekend so we have to see Sat, & Sun, and early week to SEE what RNS is up to or intuit what they might do

Which faction will they listen to?
By Wed we will have a load of Qs to ask, Weade will be in his element.

Remember tomorrow is a Scorpio FULL MOON on Ron Pauls Ascendant if we have a near correct TOB for him. Strength and change
He has something up a sleeve or an inside pocket....

:)

Its ALL good.

~

its going to be interesting,

its going to be interesting, no doubt, and i'm looking forward to see what happens

i also think there must be some hidden pocket action going on, nothing else adds up, we are missing a piece of the delegate strategy

missing a piece of the delegate strategy

yes more than likely but with spyeze everywhere how can those wise ones who do the planning lay all their cards face up?
the Aces must be kept in the vest pocket and only laid down one by one when its too late for the HATERS to use them against us by twisting and theft which is the MO of the HATERS.

Sad but so true and even if we had a Ron Paul for the next twenty administrations there would STILL be such thieves and twisters about to line their own vest pockets at the cost to the masses.

'Freedom requires eternal vigilance'

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you're right about that! but

you're right about that! but i think we're beginning to have the truth come out as we speak! MSNBC say flat out that bound delegate can choose NOT to vote! there's a very GOOD chance we can deny Romney the nomination through abstaining!

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It could be a debate

I think what we saw with that Krugman guy on Bloomberg was really a setup to a possible upcoming debate. The interview just really bugged me.

Real eyes realize real lies

We want our country back

Every year is a year for Ron Paul!

May Ninth is VICTORY DAY in Russia, so bust out the vodka!

May Ninth is VICTORY DAY in Russia (VE Day is the 8th) so we'll be busting out the vodka ANYWAY. If Stossel or Wead or Dr. Paul have good news, we'll be ready for it!

"Cowards & idiots can come along for the ride but they gotta sit in the back seat!"

I'll Drink to That!

..but make mine a Dewars...that Vodka hurts too much these days LOL!

"Beyond the blackened skyline, beyond the smoky rain, dreams never turned to ashes up until.........
...Everything CHANGED !!

Johnson/Paul?

The Libertarian national convention is this weekend. What if Johnson is the nominee and he asks Ron Paul to be the VP?

It's highly unlikely that Paul would go for it since it would impact the chances of Rand running for President as a Republican in 2016, but it would certainly shake things up.

A more realistic scenario? Paul does better than expected in the primaries being held on Tuesday and holds Romney below 60% in each of the states showing that the GOP still hasn't unified behind him.

Get Out The Vote.

Get Out The Vote.

Get Out The Vote.

The answer is simple and obvious: Ron Paul!

Only Ron Paul can beat Obama and the Republican base needs to accept it. Dr. Paul is still gaining momentum. Romney has yet to gain any traction.

I think that's it

He is pushing his bill to abolish the Fed, so might be taking a harder stand this time at the hearings. Maybe they found something huge in the audit.

RP R3VOLution

Here's my spin - you read it here first....

The Euro collapses under the weight of the PIIGS - all at once. That's right, not Greece first, then Spain, Portugal, Italy, Ireland, but ALL of them in a matter of a few hours, perhaps maybe an afternoon. Germany falls the next day. They're neck deep in PIIGSshyt.

Either shortly after, or in the process BofA goes down, as does one or two other top 5 US banks.

Full blown panic sets in on day three. That's right, it takes two full days for the shock to wear off. (actually, it's 48-72 hours of constant shock, so it isn't a one time event sort of thing, kind of a rolling, slow motion bytchslap)

Paul "takes off" because he is vindicated.

Keynesianism is a failure - a really really bad one too.

No one has the answers.

No one has the leadership.

Except Paul.

And the irony of it is, the media will be the ones to shine the light on him.

It will be they who recognize and remember that he's the only one who knew what the hell he was talking about.

(they'll find others to back him up of course)

They will do this out of their own self interest.

They will be just as afraid of what shoe falls next as anyone, and they will see Paul as the only brake on the speeding train, the only voice of sanity.

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Or, it could be something really innocuous and not that big of a deal...

It could be..

after the votings in france and greece we will have more or less anti euro goverments and many investors will pull out completely.
This will put enormous pressure on the whole fiat money system.

If this is true then we need to be prepared to push Ron Paul and his message everywhere cause Romney will play to be the savior.

Or It May be This

Previously posted story which is more about the widespread corruption and how Romney...just like Obama hasn't been vetted because he's the Lee Harvey Oswald of this election cycle.

As Webster Tarpley would describe him as a "patsy" who has been enlisted to accomplish the "real objective"......

...TO LOSE !!!

Check this out!
http://www.dailypaul.com/229483/mega-news-herzog-arrested-in...

I truly believe this is the scandal that will scorch and burn the GOP into oblivion along with the DEMs.

Just my take on this...but check it out.

"Beyond the blackened skyline, beyond the smoky rain, dreams never turned to ashes up until.........
...Everything CHANGED !!

Its obvious when election is about eating dogs & rich moms

Willard IS a damned patsy. Its obvious the scene is rigged like a crappy Shakespeare play when the economy is collapsing but the election is all about eating dogs & rich stay at home moms.

Exactly one year ago, Willard Romney was picked by the corporate media to be defeated by Obama.

Its not complicated, and current events are proving this hypothesis out.

"Cowards & idiots can come along for the ride but they gotta sit in the back seat!"

This has probably been in the works

since '08 when Romney mysteriously dropped out for McCain.

I Like that SHAKESPEARE Thing..

...Yeah!..Hope you don't mind if I borrow that?

"Beyond the blackened skyline, beyond the smoky rain, dreams never turned to ashes up until.........
...Everything CHANGED !!

I looked for articles where Herzog was arrested in German and

the only one I found was whitehats themselves. I do not put a lot of belief that Herzog was arrested.

SequoiaTrees4RonPaul

No reports from Germany

about Herzog being arrested

from Berlin, Munich, Köln or Hamburg

surely there would have been even a tiny mention by now

disinfo for some reason

.

yes I think we will see big endorsements from Evangelicals

having realized that being free from government interference means they also can't use gov't to interfere with others, is a better choice for them than mittens In fact just today http://www.earnedmedia.org/usacm0503.htm

Rule 38

Rule 38 is the shiznit.